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Militants enter Israel from Gaza after woman killed in rocket barrage | CNN

www.cnn.com Militants enter Israel from Gaza after woman killed in rocket barrage | CNN

Multiple militants from Gaza have entered Israeli territory, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said Saturday, shortly after a barrage of rockets left one person dead and at least three injured.

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Al Jazeera has a timeline going. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/7/israel-palestine-escalation-live-news-barrage-of-rockets-fired-from-gaza Israel-Palestine escalation live news: Hamas starts Operation Al-Aqsa Flood

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As an outsider, I read about land being reclaimed by Isreali settlers but cannot see how this is different to any other similar situation, like the Ukraine conflict.

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- No no Russia is evil for invading Ukraine. But Palestinians are evil for being invaded by Israel
  
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- From my understanding is Israel has been oppressing Palestinians for years now. This is Palestine "fuck you" move that, imo, is long overdue. I do not want this conflict, but Israel has this coming.
  
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  It was only a matter of time. You can only oppress innocent people so much before they have no other choice left behind.
  
  As usual the world turns a blind eye to this oppression.
  
  Of course, now, Israel will feel they have the mandate to obliterate them even more.
  
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The creation of the Israeli state was the worst move in geopolitics since the scramble for Africa and the border fuckery that ensued from that. They couldn’t have stuck the Jews somewhere more hospitable than the holy land of two opposing religions?

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- they should have put it in New Jersey instead tbh
  
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I have to admit my understanding of Hamas is imperfect at best, I'm mostly aware of them from their work during Israel's illegal invasion of Southern Lebanon...

But doesn't this seem uncharacteristically... aggressive for Hamas? Attacking civilians at a music festival?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hamas-gunmen-open-fire-hundreds-music-festival-southern-israel-kibbutz-reim/

Taking civilians hostages?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/07/middleeast/hostages-hamas-israel-gaza/index.html

What has caused this sudden change in their MO? If you had told me Hezbollah was doing it, I wouldn't have batted an eye, (and they seem to approve - https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-gaza-rockets-attack-palestinians/card/hezbollah-praises-hamas-attack-warns-against-normalising-ties-with-israel-rbqLpR9QDzCyiUGQw0xl) but this seems just so much more radical than Hamas has been previously.

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- Hamas, for years, had "the extermination of the Jewish people" in their charter. Not "drive the Jews out of Israel," but exterminate them.
  
  I believe they technically removed it a few years ago, but they obviously didn't ditch the sentiment. They've also fired rockets at civilian targets multiple times.
  
  Hamas is a terrorist organization masquerading as a governing body.
  
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~~"Palestinia"~~ Terrorists moment

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- This is going to be a shitshow on Lemmy with the amount of tankies on here who'll be defending terrorists killing civilians.
  
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  I just block them all, maybe i should make my block list public lol
  
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militants travel from palestine to palestine

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- No, no, these are peace operatives /s. But yes, get rid of them all. They have a death wish, simple as that. They can never/ won't ever build themselves up. The Arab world is moving past the Palestinian nonsense cause. They should've done a deal years ago instead continuing the bloodshed. Life could be so much better for them if they only chose a better way.
  
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  Say the same of Ukrainian then.
  
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Ah yes the Palestinian people again show their endless peacefulness. Of course they will tell that they are the victims again, and have no other choice but to launch rockets.

Fuck those terrorists. There will never be peace as long as the Palestinian people will not oppose those terrorists, but they even support them.

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- Or maybe there will never be peace until Israeli people stop voting for right wing religious and nationalistic extremists ? Really, this country has gone worse and worse since Rabin was murdered... 😥
  
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  The existence of Israel is rooted in right wing and religious pretext. They intentionally went in and founded a nation in a sea of enemies. It will always have a right wing majority.
  
  You simply need jingoistic, proactive, authoritarian influences. Think of it like a person being switched into survival mode.
  
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  Or maybe Palestine should stop murdering Israelis before? Why do you defend the terrorists and shift the blame into Israel? Ever read about Israel's history?
  
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- Anndddd what is your opinion on the nonstop onslaught of Israel against the Palestinians?
  
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  Why are the Palestinians so fucking stubborn to negotiate in good faith and to bring some sort of peace and conclusion to this bloodshed? Aren't they tired of killing and destruction? Perhaps they could build something great. It's the same fucking story all the time. Nobody cares anymore. You only get so many chances before you're the problem. Like the saying goes, "If you go through your day and you meet an asshole. You've met an asshole. If all you meet are assholes, then maybe you're the asshole." They're the asshole. There's an insane cognitive dissonance there. Like shit and get off the pot, actually sue for peace, actually try to do something instead of sending idiots to slaughter.
  
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