All of this has just been distraction

Found in this great toot

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Wheres the scale for temperture change, yeah the colors indicate a trend from cold to warm but how warm isnt shown

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- this wasn't my exact complaint, but it's similar; the graph starts at 320 and goes up to 420, meaning the slope is intentionally exaggerated. if you want to show us how much worse things have become, give us comparison to earlier CO2 levels, otherwise this just gets dismissed as alarmist propaganda.
  
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  The slope isn't exaggerated - it shows a linear trend, and it choses the only reasonable limits in order to illustrate this in the period. Starting the graph at zero would make no sense - you could easily illustrate the stability of global temperature by showing a graph of average temperatures starting at zero Kelvin.
  
  What is true is that atmospheric CO2 is hard for most of us to interpret substantially. However, the graph is not setting out to effectively illustrate how much CO2 there is in the atmosphere, but rather the linear growth of atmospheric CO2 levels in spite of various efforts.
  
  If the Y axis was secretly log transformed or something like that, there would be reason to worry. But it's linear, and the story told by the graph is accurate.
  
  The instinct of checking the limits of the Y axis is a good one though.
  
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  The slope isn't exaggerated at all, the increments are same as if you showed the full graph from zero. But zero isn't a useful baseline, and zooming out to fit it into your screen would give a false impression of a flat change at the top of a narrow section of history. What would fix that is a longer x-axis showing further back in time. Then you'd see a relatively flat line with some rises and dips, then at the end a sudden spike.
  
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- What I’ve found as an average the change isn’t much.
  
  What I’ve noticed watching daily trends there is a big difference.
  
  Weird things like I can wear shorts in winter when before I needed a heavy coat.
  
  If the earth isn’t warming than I am.
  
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  My work computer has that thing in the taskbar telling you about news and the weather. I swear it tells me about a record high temperature for this day several times a week.
  
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- https://showyourstripes.info/c
  
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- I was about to ask the same
  
  Like I get it’s getting warmer but what’s the trend vs the PPM
  
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  Here's a chart at the beginning of the global average surface temps, so you can compare from 1960 and see a similar trend. Lower down you can also find the IPCC projected paths and see the same. RCP8.5 was considered no action and business as usual...more or less where we still are.
  
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We're doomed, and most of us don't even care. This world has become so hellish that a great many of us, conscious of it or not, just want to escape.

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- Most are just trying to put food on the table.
  
  Apathy in action isn't always "chosen", but instead can be "forced" via circumstance.
  
  Apathy in active n does.not necessarily.mean apathy in thought.
  
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- I think people care, we're just trained into patterns of learned helplessness and isolation over generations.
  
  There were large swathes of people who resisted during the 19th and 20th centuries, they were systematically murdered en masse. I bet it has happened many times over the centuries.
  
  Sometimes I wonder if we've bred ourselves into either loyal obedience or dispassionate compliance because everyone else was always killed by the first group while being ignored by the second.
  
  Or maybe it's just me 🤷‍♂️
  
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  It's because most people just want to live their lives in peace, even if they're under a boot. That has always been true.
  
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- I do what I can in terms of voting and whatnot, otherwise I try not to think about it too much.
  
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But we can't give up and keep emitting because we don't know how dire it will be. We shouldn't ensure the worst outcome.

Great Kurzgesagt vid on the subject https://youtu.be/LxgMdjyw8uw Especially at https://youtu.be/LxgMdjyw8uw?/t=11m11s

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I read in a book written in the 90s that said in 60's the US DoD commissioned a study of threats to America, and the single biggest one was global warming. Not Russians, or Chinese, nope it was this. They knew then.

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Depressing af

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If only agreeing to do something was as effective as doing something.

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- I. DECLARE. BANKRUPTCY!
  
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looks like all these agreements are accelerating CO2 ppm

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- Just there to quell the public so the corporations can keep polluting
  
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Whenever I see this, I always wonder - what effect does the change in atmospheric composition have on humans?

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- Directly, pollution is responsible for quite a surplus of deaths in densely populated areas.
  
  Apart from that the CO2 isn't that much to have a significant effect on us.
  
  Also microplastics, sadly.
  
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  People are dumber with higher CO2 concentrations. No joke bring a brilliant person and they will struggle. This is why we need good ventilation in classrooms because it can get stuffy(low O2 and high CO2)
  
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- Making the atmosphere more akin to stuffy offices with bad air flow, mid-afternoon, but globally. Hmm.
  
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  What is the co2 ppm in a stuffy office I wonder.
  
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Somewhere in a few hundreds years time will be ....

Great Pan Global Accord To Restart Civilization ... and it will correspond with the extinction of the human race

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There is a certain atmospheric concentration of CO2 that accompanied giant dragonflies and shit. Maybe if we bring those back people will take things more seriously.

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- I thought that it was the other way around, that extremely high oxygen saturation supports giant bugs
  
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  This, more co2 is better for plants, it makes us more miserable
  
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