Teslas have been consuming a lot of gasoline lately.

Yeah, probably a lot of Rittenhouse wannabes out there who wanna test the limits of castle doctrine.

You! You're that pathetic Elmo dick rider from the other sub. He still isn't going to give you money, you germ.

Debatable, it depends on what fraction of the power was supplied by the generator. The chemical-kinetic-electric energy conversion incurs great losses because of waste heat, and portable diesel generators are not always built with efficiency in mind. A charging station operating on 100% diesel to power an EV is much less efficient than a modern ICE vehicle of a similar mass sans batteries.

Okay....now that the left is finding every reason to hate on Tesla, allow me to help: this is, and always has been, a massive fucking myth. It never was more energy efficient than a regular ICE vehicle.

Mainly because of its construction. Mining the cobalt, etc for the batteries is very energy intensive. Then there's the tires. AFAIK, you can't just throw any old tires on a Tesla vehicle. You have to buy their special tires with all these sensors in them. I think there are knockoffs, but still. You also have to change the tires more frequently than traditional ICE vehicles, because they wear out faster, because the Teslas are heavier. A car weighs as much as an SUV or truck (3,582 lbs - 4,065 lbs), the Model X Plaid weighs 5390 lbs, and the Cybertruck weighs 6000-7000 lbs.

The damage doesn't stop with the vehicle itself; we must also consider the impact of heavier vehicles on the roads. It will also cause the roads to wear out faster than normal.

Unless it's crashed or burned in protest or whatever, IIRC, a Tesla vehicle can redeem itself from its massive environmental cost to produce & such. But only after many hundreds of thousands of miles on the road, and by the time that occurs, you'll need to replace the battery. "Tesla batteries can last between 300,000 to 500,000 miles, which translates to about 1,500 battery charge cycles." Kiss another $13K - $20K goodbye to swap out that battery for a new one.

So with its far simpler & straightforward construction out of readily available material, coupled with a sprawling existing infrastructure...the ICE car is more eco-friendly and cheaper to operate! And the hybrid vehicles are better than both full-electric & ICE, best of both worlds.

I live in Alberta where most of our power comes from natural gas. I'm also an emissions and sustainability engineer. I did the math on environmental payback for an EV where I live and the EV is WILDLY better for the environment despite the power potentially coming from fossil fuels.

If you tell me roughly where you live I can calculate emissions per kilometre/mile including the energy that goes into manufacturing the vehicle.

There's absolutely jurisdictions where EVs don't make much difference - but most places they do.

(large scale power generation is pretty effecient and most jurisdictions have some renewables in the mix. A car's gas engine is much lower efficiency most places)

Even when powered by fossil fuel power plants, electric vehicles are still usually better in terms of CO2 emissions. Power plants benefit from scale, so they're a lot more efficient than the tiny combustion engines in cars. Regenerative braking also saves a ton of energy when driving in the city.

Yes the fossil fuel industry loved to point this one out. "Hahaha! We're so dirty even your clean tech can't be clean!"

It closed at 283 yesterday and it is 273 right now. That was after a low of last week of 223. Something is keeping it boayed up.

It's True!

Good counterpoint. I don't know

I suspect you're still negative. There's so much nasty stuff that's going to get released and you're already one set of construction/mining costs in the hole.

This is America. We use corn based moonshine here.

Vodka is inevitable

But that constitutes alcohol abuse

What an infinitely stupid response. The proportion of rich people owning a Tesla with respect to all Tesla owners is vanishingly small. When you burn a Tesla of an uninvolved person, you are costing them tens of thousands of currency and are probably destroying their only car.

Please dont. Find other ways to destroy them than fire if you want to, but fire endangers fighterfighters etc. Dont harm the working class to own the billionaires.

I agree. It’s a false equivalency.

It’s super similar to the idea behind the original tea party. They didn’t do insane shit like burn down buildings with people inside, they tossed tea into the water. If we could do something similar, I’m sure we would.

You know what, the first time, I totally read your comment completely different than how you meant it. So my previous reply would have been different.

Even so, my comment was not disgusting, it was just using logic.