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Gaza under blackout as Israel reports 'good progress' in war against Hamas

www.reuters.com Gaza under blackout as Israel reports 'good progress' in war against Hamas

Gaza's 2.3 million residents were largely cut off from the outside world after Israel expanded air and ground operations and suggested its long-promised ground offensive against Hamas militants had begun.

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Well when you eliminate all the people, by definition I guess you take care of hamas...

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- And by definition Hamas has genecide in its very charter. Possibly we can judge them by how much of their stored supplies they are distributing to the needy in Gaza
  
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  Why are we judging what we should do bad on what terrorists are doing instead
  
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- Do you genuinely believe that Israel is intentionally killing everyone in Gaza?
  
  If so, why are they so bad at it that civilian casualties aren't in the hundreds of thousands yet? They have total military superiority. It would be really easy to do that.
  
  Is Israel so incompetent that they can't "shoot fish in a barrel" or is this take maybe really dumb?
  
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  They’re destroyed half of all homes in Gaza and have cut off all access to food and water including bombing UN relief supplies as they come in.
  
  Is your take maybe really dumb?
  
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  Go look up articles that explain why this qualifies as genocide instead of trying to incorrectly nitpick what qualifies as genocide.
  
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  or is this take maybe really dumb?
  
  It should be a red flag to stop and revaluate your morals when it comes time to explain why something isn't genocide.
  
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  7000 people dead and this MF says it's not enough.
  
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  Israel isn't invulnerable and even in its hate, arrogance and greed, it knows.
  
  The world can and would turn on them and destroy them.
  
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  You are completely right. If Israel really wanted to exterminate Palestine the whole thing would look drastically different and would have been completed years and years ago. Instead Israel left Gaza and all they received for that is constant missile attacks.
  
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I'll tell you one thing - I've been on reddit just trying to provide some counters to the (extremely genocidal) conversation going on over there, but the censorship is just out of control. /r/worldnews mods will straight up permaban you for a comment like "I just wish everyone would try to resolve this peacefully". You look at the front of /r/worldnews any day, it's 60% articles from Israeli newspapers and the comments are just 75% "[removed]".

One of the biggest discussion sites on the internet and they've basically weaponized it into a propaganda tool. Shameful time we live in.

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- Reddit has been extremely trash. Going back from time to time wondering if the people there are talking about topics I’m interested in that haven’t gained traction on lemmy has made me seriously question why I ever liked using that site. You’re absolutely right about the genocidal conversation on r/worldnews, it’s so disgusting.
  
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- That sub isn't officially right-wing, but it's definitely right-wing. I've seen a ton of transphobic bullshit upvoted there too, for example.
  
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- It has been the same way for many years. I remember that's why people started world politicssub but that was taken over or something. Most of reddit has become a breeding ground for hate filled Americans and Israelis who think there is no higher calling in the world but to kill terrorists and any amount of collateral damage is acceptable. Of course every definition of terrorists also applies to Israel but they don't see the irony of that.
  
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- If you're using r/worldnews as the bar for impartiality then that's your problem
  
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- Is ongoing genocide really the place for a "ha ha, the other site sucks" post?
  
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  I'm not laughing.
  
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Why is “good progress” in quotes but not “war with Hamas?”

Characterizing the leveling of Gaza as a war with Hamas is Israeli propaganda.

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‘Good progress, with this kill rate we’ll be done in a few years!’

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Well this is horrifying.

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This is the best summary I could come up with:

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Hagari also said Israel would allow trucks carrying food, water and medicine to enter Gaza on Saturday, indicating that bombing might pause, at least in the area of its border with Egypt where small amounts of aid have been arriving.

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Medecins Sans Frontieres (Doctors Without Borders) said it was particularly worried for patients, medical staff and thousands of families taking shelter there and at other health facilities.

An Al Jazeera correspondent, reporting live on Saturday morning, described the cut in internet and phone communications as "catastrophic" for rescue efforts following a night of heavy Israeli bombardment.

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There has been growing speculation that a Qatari-brokered deal to release more hostages was imminent but Israeli military spokesman Hagari said Hamas was cynically manipulating the situation.

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The armed wing of Hamas, the al-Qassam brigades, said early on Saturday its fighters were clashing with Israeli troops in Gaza's northeastern town of Beit Hanoun and in the central area of Al-Bureij.

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The United States and other Western countries have offered strong support to Israel but had urged it to hold off on a ground offensive for fear that high casualties among Palestinians would fuel wider conflict.

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Obviously hitting some weapons cache from the secondaries on the clips I've seen.

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Without knowing who I am talking about, which would you say is closer to your view: If a group fires rockets and kills civilians, is it

A) An act of terror for which the group should be punished

B) A regrettable outcome but permissible because they should have the right to defend themselves

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- A false dichotomy.
  
  For the purposes of what is going on: one government attacked another government, leading to retaliation. In both cases, civillians were predominantly targeted.
  
  Hamas are terrorists, no doubts about it. But they are also the government of Gaza. And the Israeli Government/IDF/Mossad have been engaging in a slow genocide of a people in what amounts to a concentration camp for decades.
  
  There are no "good guys" in this war. And it is a war. And, like in all wars, it is the civilians who suffer. The Israelis and tourists who were viciously attacked and brutalized. And the Palestinians being used as human shields by Hamas.
  
  And... that is also why a "two state solution" is off the table. Because it will just mean Hamas becomes legitimized and consolidates their power.
  
  But... there is also no situation where the Palestinians survive under the Israeli government.
  
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  But... there is also no situation where the Palestinians survive under the Israeli government.
  
  In current day Israel there are more than 2 million Arab/Palestinians, more than 20% and growing... While in Gaza strip the Jewish population is 0, and won't ever grow...
  
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  It may be a false dichotomy, but it is also two contradictory positions held by the both groups in this conflict.
  
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