Ye Power Trippin' Bastards @lemmy.dbzer0.com

19h ago

Apparently, due process is unrelated to an illegal deportation without due process case.

DISCLAIMER: this is not my content that was removed, I just came across it in the modlog and found it to be absurd. If it’s not allowed, I totally understand.

Reason removed was because it’s unrelated.

Unrelated…..

The guy was illegally deported without due process. And yet for some reason, suggesting so is somehow “unrelated” to a meme that is trying to say that because he is affiliated (no charges were ever filed against him for gang-related activity) with a gang, he is by default, guilty.

What’s ironic, is that the entire point of the meme is that the bullshit about him being in MS-13 is unrelated to the fact that people want accountability for this administration illegally deporting a man without due process.

This mod has definitely chosen the correct name.

And even taken into consideration that the instance is essentially a troll haven for wayward 4Chan refugees, they should still have to adhere to the rules of common sense.

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If they have all this evidence it should have been really easy to follow due process.
The thing is they don't have enough for a conviction, if they had they would have used it.

Trump won because Elon Musk helped him create fake ballots in swing states.
- Is there evidence for this?
- Don't give them so much credit. He won because of voter suppression laws targeting groups who typically vote democrat, and general laziness from democrats resulting in low voter turnout like usual.
  
  Both can be true
  
  So you think the ninety one million people are lazy democrats? Not a single lazy “I refuse to vote in protest” socialist among them?
- Wasn’t there also the slight issue of many not bothering to vote at all or not willing to vote for the more democratic candidate over Israel or something? So much drama in the states…
  
  Yeah all those "gEnOciDe" trolls have mystically vanished since then ...
  
  38% of registered voters didn't bother to vote. I think many of them couldn't stomach either candidate in the fake two-party system and didn't think a third party or independent could win so they didn't bother. If that 38% had gotten behind a candidate like Jill Stein or a write in campaign for Bernie Sanders, they could have beaten Trump and Harris.

Yeah he's one of ours? Is that implying that the Ecuadorian president is a member of MS-13? Also they don't seem to understand that Ecuador in Venezuela are two different countries, although yeah that one doesn't surprise me at all really
- Maybe the Ecuadorian president has killed more people than ms13 and feels like an honorary member?

This is also blatant misinformation. No judge ever made a finding that he was associated with MS-13. The government asserted it in court but it's never been proven. The immigration proceedings largely revolved around his asylum application, interview, and testimony.
So they're lying in an attempt to make it sensational enough to bust past due process. For an example of how that looks long term, check Duterte's regime in the Philippines. Many people were killed extrajudicially and written off as drug dealers.
- Pretty much, yeah. It looks like they’re going on this as “evidence”
  The Justice Department shared records, not previously made public, detailing how police officers in Maryland assessed Abrego Garcia was a member of the MS-13 gang during an arrest in 2019. He had no criminal history at the time, which the documents also state, and his attorneys have denied that he is a gang member.
  We all know a police officer’s “assessment” doesn’t mean shit, but it seems this is what they’re working from.

Chuckles the clown should be put on blast everyday.
The administration of HilariousChaos aren’t any better as they don’t have any control or want to have any control over the people in their instance.
- Is it mostly traitor lunatics or just random stuff including the traitors?
- They need to be found and blasted, that way no one has to deal with them anymore
- The entire instance is a fucking joke in name only. I was invited to make an account there around when they started by some kid named “Alice.” I noped the fuck out the minute I saw what it was:
  A shit-tier wannabe cover-band of 4Chan’s greatest hits.

Nazi instance supporting Nazis, not a shock.
PTB, clear and simple. Someday they will be mass defederated. I don't think my instance gets them, but I haven't been looking for more digital self harm by reading Nazis advocating for my kind to be removed.
- I don’t think my instance gets them
  We do. 👍
- PTB, clear and simple.
  Agreed wholeheartedly.
  Someday they will be mass defederated.
  One can dream.

Telling people to "fuck off" is incredibly rude. YDI.
Trump is merely continuing the Biden tradition of seeing 40 beheaded babies and finding Hamas bases under hospitals. But if Trump does it suddenly you believe in the rule of law. It has already been demolished.
- How's bout ya fuck off and eat a slug pissant.
- Fuck right off
- Telling people to "fuck off" is incredibly rude
  Oh hey look it's the average .world mod attitude! Rudeness < Nazi behaviour, so maybe check your priorities on criticism yeah?
  
  I see the "don't sass the nazis" attitude so prevalent among reddit mods made it to lemmy. Bummer.

Double

"He's MS-13!" Prove it in court then. Fuck me I'm tired of Americans being 100% wrong about everything and then trying to sound adult by having lengthy 'debates' about it.

PTB.
Like, I get not wanting "political" content in your instance. But guess what, everything has a political side! And the comment is completely related to the topic at hand (Garcia being kicked by force from one dictatorship into another, with no proofs that he would be a mara).
- Like, I get not wanting "political" content in your instance.
  The post was more political than the comment, just saying.
- It’s in a “conservatives” community, so, politics is pretty much the wheelhouse.
  And even considering the source, one would think there would at least be some sense of maturity when it comes to moderating, but nope.
  It’s wannabe edgelord trolling, even in the moderation/admin team.
  
  That makes it even worse.

Hilariouschaos seems to pop up a lot here lately
- Idk when chuckles became a mod or admin but they’re eleventy times worse than Alice.
  It’s certainly chaos but there’s a distinct lack of hilarity.
  
  Alice is okay, just a bit overenthusiastic with niche communities.
  Chuckles seems to be a completely different level
- There’s a good reason for that.
  
  Hilariouschaos and Lemmy.today tend to be known to be the conservative instances.

I mean, c'mon. It's a fucking clown shoe running the show.
The only question is if I'm talking about the thing in the picture, or the one that took the mod action.
The answer to that question is yes.
- Well put.

Oh yeah, that guy is a real dipshit.
- Yeah. And what’s sad is that he seems to revel in it. How fucking pathetic must one’s life be to find joy in being a massive pile of shit?
  
  Some people are so poor that all they have in life is money.

This is my now daily(?) suggestion for admins to defed from HC and for users to block it
- I definitely think LW needs to defederate from them. There’s little they offer that doesn’t have a better alternative elsewhere.
- somewhat new to Lemmy, how can a user block an instance? so far all I’ve been able to figure out is blocking individual communities
  
  If you’re on desktop, click on the arrow by your username in the top right. Then click Settings. On the next page, click on Blocks and scroll all the way down to Block Instance to type in an instance name.
  If you’re on the Voyager app, go to Settings, then Filters & Blocks and scroll all the way down to Blocked Instances to type in an instance name.
  Methods may vary for other browsers/apps.
  Blocking an instance (unfortunately) does not stop users from that instance from replying to you or from you seeing their comments. You’d have to block the individual accounts as you see them.
  
  Depends on what app you use.
  For Voyager you go to settings > filters & blocks > add instance

And once again they move the goalpost and there's absolutely fuck all we're going to be able to do about it. 2 weeks ago we were angry that people were kidnapped and sent to a deathcamp. 1,5 weeks ago we were angry that people didn't even get a trial. 1 week ago we were angry that someone wasn't "supposed" to be sent to the death camp. Now we're angry that they say this man was a gangmember without evidence.
The discussion has moved from "sending people to death camps is fucking insane", to "it's okay to send people to death camps, as long as they're gang members".
This post is a big part of that goalpost moving.
Don't let them shift the narative. Yes, everything that is happening is wrong, but focusing on them lying about him being a gang member, shifts the narative to a point where it's okay to send people to foreign death camps, as long as they've done something the state deems criminal (in this case, being a gang member).
- This post’s focus is simply about an asshole mod that thinks it’s funny to troll people using a moderator’s authority.
  The fact that the guy has no criminal charges or what his association is isn’t relevant to the point, other than the reason said asshole mod chose to use as a way to troll someone.

The Judge that so heavily rebuked Trump is a Reagan appointee

Chuckles the clown is an accurate name. Hilarious chaos is not.
- Well said… and I don’t know if I want to know what your username means, but I’m intrigued.
  
  Inspired by an alcoholic shot called a Buttery Nipple. It's delicious but I didn't quite want THAT as my username.

e: there’s another symbol from France Americans could learn from.
- Good point!

... wayward 4Chan refugees ... common sense.
Come on now, you know better.
- Fair point.

Which judge? Which jury? What's the case so I can look it up? What crime is he charged with? When is his next court date? What was he convicted of? What was he sentenced to, and by whom?
-Questions I'm going to keep asking
Edit: I just read that modlog. Unrelated? Eat more boots, jackass.

Chucklestheleatherfootwareafficionado
- Just going to throw in, as a vegan, 95% of people are leather shoe aficionados.
  I honestly would not have thought that the hardest part about becoming vegan late in life would be buying shoes without leather.
  It's definitely harder than buying food or eating out.
- He’s definitely seen a few up close.

his tattoos are of dice and Sigmund Freud by the way, notably not of MS-13, a group to what he has no established connection.
- I think I read that he does have affiliation, but has never committed any crimes associated with them. Either way, he received no proper procedure, due process or trial before being found guilty as a result of suspicion and prosecuted.
  EDIT; meant to say that I had read that they are saying he does have affiliation. Not that he factually does.
  
  can you provide a source for the affiliation?

they should still have to adhere to the rules of common sense.
how precisely are you going to make them? do you see the issue here? and this is exactly why trump won. because democrats wouldn't do a damn thing for working class americans no matter how many we elect if the corporate owners didnt want them too.
trump on the other hand is more than happy to do whatever he wants and you're all suddenly seeing how effective it is when you dgaf.
- Based on the spectacular feat of mental gymnastics you performed in order to find a way to make all of this the democrats fault- I’m going to assume you’re not here in good faith and respond in kind:
  🫵 lol
  
  😂 correct i have zero faith in the democrats ability to turn their party around and its going to result in our country right into a period of fascist rule.
  Congratulations!
- I mean, Trump isn't helping working class Americans.
  
  didnt say he was. point is he's completely shattering the illusion that the democrats couldn't have done anything each time they've had the presidency and that they choose to shit on the working class.
  trump won because he is doing what his base wants (deporting people and being an asshole) and democrats lose because they are not doing what their base wants and just give excuses each time.

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