German Vice-Chancellor Robert Habeck on Israel and Antisemitism
https:// nitter.net /BMWK/status/1720130870864998800 German Vice-Chancellor Robert Habeck on Israel and Antisemitism
If anyone else comes here - go watch the posted video but stay away from this comment section.
I have absolutely no idea how such a level-headed and well-put-together speech appealing at human decency and respect towards each other devolved into such a vile comment section.
I assume most of the commenters either didn't watch the video or purposefully ignored its content to instead incite more hate.
41Very good and level headed comment, rightfully met with wide acclaim across the political landscape in Germany.
24Comments are disabled until I've got time to moderate them. It's normal to have strong feelings about the current situation. But you need to stay in scope of the Server Rules, it's also unacceptable to deny the right of Existence in Israel, post antisemitic and/or racist stuff. In Germany it's also a criminal offence to endorse or approve criminal offenses
5I posted this before as an reply, but I think this is relevant for everyone: Hamas doubles down and says it was only the first October 7 attack of many to come
3This could have been expressed in a single sentence: The fact that Israel is punishing all citizens of Ghaza for Hamas attacks does not mean that Germans should act the same towards the Jews (but we don't mind if you do towards Iranians and such). Tragic.-13This is objectively false.
Habeck says in the video that he has seen a terrifying growth in antisemitism in Germany where members of the Jewish faith are scared to leave the house on their own or publicly display religious symbols due to open hostility. He talks about a responsibility of Germans due to the central role in the holocaust but also how the Islamic world has not distanced itself enough from the atrocities committed by the hamas. He even remarked that one doesn't have to agree with some of Israel's politics - even explicitly naming the settlements in the Gaza / West Bank region - but that this should not be any excuse for antisemitism.
I will say again what I said in another comment - The video is an appeal to human decency and respect. Shame on you for willfully and stubbornly ignoring that and derailing the conversation to incite further hate.
21Yes, life in Gaza is life in poverty without prospects for the future. Yes, the settler movement in the West Bank is fomenting discord and robs the Palestinians of hope and rights and, increasingly, lives. And the suffering of the civilian population now at war is a fact, a terrible fact.
You are right and I am wrong I haven't read the whole video. I am ashamed. Insert whichever invective you like - I have few. There is no excuse.
10I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know if he said more than what you write.
What you describe is that he asks of Muslims everywhere to identify with Hamas and then to distance themselves from them. Does he address growing anti-muslim racism? Because from what you write it indeed sounds as if he appeals to human decency towards one side while ignoring the other.
No one except antisemites blames Jews for what Israel does, but on the other hand the Islamic world is blamed for Hamas terror and asked to distance themselves from it. Those are double standards.
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Call out the genocide. Looking away while saying "never again" is the utter peak of cynicism. You and your government are complicit in this genocide. Step down.
-14Habeck literally calls out both sides wrongdoings instead of ignoring one for the other, while differentiating Hamas & Palestinians, and the Israeli government & Jews as a whole. Something a lot of people wanted from other leaders & countries as well. But you do you with your anti-Green propaganda shit.
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Isreals security is Germany's obligation - fair enough.
What is Germany's obligation to the people of Palestine?
-18It doesn't exist.
3one would think that murdering 50 million people of which 6 million were jews would lead to a more general responsibility to protect human lifes and international rule of law.
EDIT: It is truly amazing that human rights and international law get downvoted, when it is in the context of Israel. We are back on the way to barbarism i guess.
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So Germany is willing to look the other way as Israel is butchering thousands of innocents. The fact that I even voted for this guy's party..
-22You should volunteer yourself as a human shield for Hamas then, so a Palestinian doesn’t have to be a human shield for Hamas.
3We all know you didn't.
0How is that? I'm a gay, partly jewish guy, that is strongly left leaning and cares a lot about the climate and social issues. I have voted for the green party. I agree with their stance on Ukraine and Russia, which is why I am so confused by their stance on Israel. I never expected them to act in such a way. I agree with their climate policy. I agree with their urbanism policies. But the complete disregard they have shown towards palestinian lives is simply disgusting. But whatever, you tell me who I voted for.
Downvote all you want. The green voters aren't a monolithic voice and not all of us stand with the words of Robert Habeck. Antisemitism is horrible, everyone can agree with that. But his statements of full support for Israel... not even a word of real criticism for the way they're butchering little children and entire families. Disgusting. What the world has become. The left has now gone full circle. Literally finding excuses for the murder of civillians.
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They live in the past and don't understand that Israel became a state not worth supporting. Genocidal criminals that got their 9/11 after torturing Palestinians for long enough.
They will do to every non-jew what the US did to the Middle East.
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