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Israel's attacks are not illegal, while Russia has violated international order by its war against Ukraine, says Merkel

euromaidanpress.com /2025/06/22/israels-attacks-are-not-illegal-while-russia-has-violated-international-order-by-its-war-against-ukraine-says-merkel/

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Everyone saying Ukraine was less a threat to Russia than Iran is to Isreal is 100% right. That is a valid point. Thing is, just being a threat is not a valid reason to bomb another country. What Merkel fails to do is provide a legal argument for Isreal and US bombing Irans nuclear facilties.
It is just more of the 'Germany should stand behind Israel because of what Germans did to Jews in WW2'. I'd much rather see her 'stand behind victims of Genocide because of what Germans did to earlier victims of genocide'. German politicians are morally wrong with these arguments.
International law is neutral. It is obvious Iran did not start this war. Iran breaking agreements does not give anyone carte-blanche for bombing them, nor does Iran supplying weapons to Russia. Israel bypassed the UN as well. Netanyahu needs to be brought to The Hague. Trump and Khominei too while we're at it, but I guess those would be separate cases.
- Notably, Iran did not break any agreements. America did and Europe toed the party line.
  
  By working on nuclear weapons Iran very much broke the Treaty of Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons.
- Also, the opposite is true. Israel is a big threat to Iran. Would Iran have been justified in bombing Israel first?
  
  Totally, might use that argument someday because i find it difficult to explain to some people what 'unprovoked' means in this case.

Fuck you merkle, you genocide denialist
- Didn't Germany under her take about 1 million refugees at some point?
  
  And what does that have to do with the topic or this comment?
  
  She's still supporting a genocidal israel
  
  If you are talking about 2016/17 then your statement is missing a "in the span of just about 3 months".
  
  take about 1 million refugees
  To weaken Assad, to take over Syria, to isolate Lebanon, to eliminate the threat of a retaliating all out Shiite uprising over the entire Middle East, to attack an isolated Iran.
  And Iran is most likely not the end of that chain.

To be perfectly clear: at no point has Iran (a non nuclear power) actually existentially threatened Israel (a nuclear power). Netanyahu's and the Israeli far right's opportunistically alarmist rhetoric is not fact.
Merkel is just parroting Israeli far-right talking points with no basis in fact.
This is yet another example of the German political establishment taking extremist pro-israeli positions. Contemptible, shameful fucks.
- A nuclear-armed Iran would become an existential threat to Israel.
  
  The Israeli apartheid regime's genocidal policies and its reckless adventuring are far more dangerous generators of existential threats. This war all but guarantees nuclear proliferation in the middle east. Every potential rival of Israel from the Saudis and the Turks to Iranians themselves have just gotten a big red flashing warning in their inboxes that the Jewish-supremacist Israeli apartheid regime and its Jewish-supremacist allies in the West are not rational actors that can be negotiated with. The Westerners and Israel will break deals (like the deal Iran had actually signed), will negotiate in bad faith, will initiate first strikes and will bomb your civilian population following the insane Dahiya doctrine. The only thing they understand is mutually assured destruction (nobody touches the rocket-man in North Korea!). So why the fuck shouldn't all of the other regional powers race for nuclear weapons at this point?
  Live by the sword, die by the sword.
  Edit: clarified ambiguous "they".
  
  Why?
  Since its inception by overthrowing the US and Israel installed Shah dictator the Islamic Republic has been under attack and threat by the US and Israel. Most notably the US encouraged Saddam Hussein to invade Iran right away, leading to an 8 year war with a million Iranians killed. In that time Saddam Husseins chemical warfare program was built by mainly Germany and a significant amount of precursors provided by NATO countries. Saddam used those chemical weapons agains Iran but also against the Kurdish minority.
  The US and Israel have aimed at destroying Iran since the past 46 years, except for Obama. They are the existential threat.
  Meanwhile Iran has sought a deal and upheld the JCPOA until Trump broke it and the Western allies rallied around the US instead of seriously upholding the deal themselves. Despite all of this Iran was seeking diplomacy again.
  In order to prevent any chance of diplomacy Israel is bombing Iran since 9 days and noe Trump joined in.
  The existential threats are Israel and the US.
  
  People tend to become an existential threat when you try to violently overthrow them for decades, I'm very smerprised.

I don’t fully agree that Israel is violating international law. When a country’s existence is being questioned by Iran or Hamas, it’s not so easy to respond strictly within the framework of international law,
So if you read international law strictly, it is a violation of it she just disagrees with? She was imo better than our current ICC-ignoring Merz, but come on.
People should reflect how they reacted to this article of Germany's options to develop nukes from 3 months ago. While seen as "scummy", I doubt anyone would accept a preemptive strike on countries doing what the article calls "nuclear hedging".
- Imagine instead of asking a lawyer or a judge or a jury in court we would go and ask politicians whether they think someone did or did not break the law. Would be a very different world than the one we have now. And not in a good way.

Merkel really needed another Mossad paycheck?

I am ashamed my country has to rely on people like these to keep existing. We aren't really in a position to turn down the help, though
- Do you know about Ukrainian soldiers in Africa and Syria? Your country is very close to becoming part of those people like these.
  
  No, just about the Russian ones.

Is Merkel losing her perspective? Israel’s actions clearly aim to erase the Palestinian presence—only the willfully blind can deny it. Whether or not Russia’s attacks are legal, supporting Israel is a mistake. Angela, you’re smarter than this. Sometimes, silence is wiser than misguided statements.
Free Palestine

a painful part of thinking you were a leftists, but we're actually a liberal, reading and becoming an actual leftists, is learning that those I thought were "good" were not, they just weren't as bad as others.
don't criticise me, I already said I was wrong, and I'm glad to have changed.

Please, everyone who supported the "ReArm Europe" initiative with the 800bn€ yearly to military: THIS IS WHAT SUCH WEAPONS WILL BE USED FOR. They tell you they're to "fight the evil dictators", but they're used to bomb the people standing against Israel and Europe. Europe is a genocide-supporting empire and we should all assume a pacifist stance.

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