Stop pretending Nothing's iMessage app had anything to do with RCS on the iPhone
Stop pretending Nothing's iMessage app had anything to do with RCS on the iPhone
Nothing announced an iMessage app and two days later Apple adopted RCS. Coincidence? Yes, and it's foolish to pretend otherwise.
IMHO, they’re getting ahead of the regulators before it gets imposed on them without contributing to the standard.
A hard cutover to present day RCS would be a giant pain in the butt and a potential experience downgrade for Macs and iPads.
Google basically controls the encryption protocol for it, and RCS still requires clients to be mapped to a phone number.
31I agree with the article but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple still decided to shut down Nothings chats anyway. It's pretty damn cheeky how much they copied the iPhone design and now trying to get imessage as well.
Not to mention this would potentially compromise security of everyone who communicates from an iPhone to a Nothing Phone.
25Not potentially, it would 100% compromise security. You have to sign in to your Apple ID on some Mac mini in a server farm somewhere that Nothing has control of.
46Yeah it's definitely compromised on the Nothing phone side but I was thinking more of the IPhone users supposedly encrypted messages being stored at Sunbird when they likely wouldn't even know they weren't direct.
12So it's not even actually an iMessage app. Cute.
7I see someone else also watched the latest MKBHD video too! :)
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Ridiculous. Apple users call everything insecure other than their iPhones. Crazy fans.
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It definitely has nothing to do with Nothing. They are just using this to get attention. It's pathetic really.
They are probably struggling for sales of their overpriced weird looking devices and needed some way to remind people they still exist
If you're considering the Nothing 2, I advise you to rather look at the OnePlus 11, a far superior phone at a similar price. Especially on black Friday
19OnePlus software is hot garbage now. Buy Pixel.
13I was going to say.
What's a phone that's inherently better than the Pixel in terms of software?
Hardware-wise, any phone with a smaller screen, an audio jack, a notification led, an SD card slot and a replaceable battery worked be better than the Pixel.
But in terms of software, I guess if there is one OS variant that would allow me to turn the wifi on/off with a single tap would win me over. But usually, variants get in the way with their modifications.
5My Pixel 6 Pro maybe couldn’t call 911 for a week, was vulnerable to a device take over flaw Google owns security team disclosed and wasn’t patched until a week after the 90 day public disclosure deadline, and the modem heats up the phone and kills the battery.
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Wait- OnePlus is good, actually? Last I heard was massive disappointment in the company
8It's not the same company as day one... Now is owned by Oppo. So basically is a Oppo phone that is for sure. And if you are looking for those super open phones to unlock add customs roms... Look another way.
For other stuff... Idk I have one it works well for me and it was a much cheaper alternative to Samsung or iPhone and with latest Snapdragon and plenty of ram and good hardware. Cameras idk if others are better I barely take pictures and usually I don't care a lot for the quality.
And the Chinese fast charging thing they have is amazing. (Also supports USB c pd quick charging although much slower)
5No, it's not.
5I had a 1 and 5, family members had a 5t and 6. Honestly they never impressed me after the 1.
1All the reviews I've seen praise it. It may not be the One Plus of old but as far as phones go it's one of the better one's.
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Hell nah, been using the OnePlus 6 for a solid 5 years, then updated to a newer model and the software turned to hot garbage in the meantime. Not touching that shit ever again.
1Arguably that was not the CEO of Nothing's fault. He was probably beholden to Oppo the whole time
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Idk if calling it pathetic is fair, they put together and announced this very complex thing before Apple announced RCS.
1The thing that put pressure on Apple was that other app, whose name I can't remember, which came out a few weeks ago, and did iMessage and RCS by signing the user into an Apple Mini in their data centre and pushing the iMessage to the app on the users phone.
That is what you'd call a security nightmare! This app effectively can view all your iMessages.
THAT'S why Apple made this decision. Not because of Nothing.
Apple when said it was doing it for security, and on the RCS side will be working with Google to implement it securely and correctly.
Apple could have serious lawsuits if customers messages were being intercepted by these man-in-the-middle apps and there's no way for Apple to stop it. They could be sued because they are at fault for not adopting RCS and thus leaving the customer open to using these shady companies.
Trust me, they don't give a rat's ass that some nothing company in a hole somewhere is trying to do this. At best, it might have confirmed their decision to adopt RCS because they saw yet another company (nothing) planning to do the same. Eventually you'd have tens of companies doing the same with massive privacy implications.
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RCS won't change the bubble colour though?
RCS is just a newer standard isn't it? Replacing sms? But iMessage isn't sms or RCS.
It's like on signal, prior to them fucking it, when someone sent an sms it would come in as normal and a signal message would be encrypted.
15Anyone who thinks this is about the color of the bubble is either misinformed, or 14 and a bully.
No one sane actually cares about the color. It could be pink, purple, green, red, blue, whatever, and people would still have the exact same problem, being that RCS is not supported, and SMS/MMS is shit in comparison.
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Meanwhile Beeper, doing the exact same thing as Nothing for iMessage for several years already:
*crickets
12The difference is the EU coming up quickly and nothing making it much more public than what I've seen from other companies like beeper
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Nobody is lmfao
9Joke never made before!
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It's literally nothing. In fact Nothing's announcement is nothing. It can easily be blocked by iPhone and them announcing it so is just going to encourage Apple to do so.
7Maybe they knew it was going to happen and tried to capitalize on it.
6https://lifehacker.com/tech/nothing-phones-imessage
Not sure how accurate this is, but I saw this article yesterday and thought I'd share for awareness
6Is it the old tale about causation vs correlation?
5I find it odd that people care about this so much. I personally don’t know anyone who uses the default messaging on their phones for communication. My messages app is just security codes and ads.
3In the United States they do
8a lot of us do, especially in my country
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If apple added RCS support like 10 years ago, this wouldn't been a significant issue because it was well distributed and supported
As its stands now, RCS is basically Google's crappy exploitative imessage alt that they are touting as some open standard as if they aren't already enforcing use of google messages on android.
Not even samsung messages has full support for RCS, and they're literally the next big OEM.
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