How did this break rule 1? Did you just not read the 2nd panel?
How did this break rule 1? Did you just not read the 2nd panel?
I don't like this meme. Not because of the politics involved or anything, it just doesn't make sense.
I know it's supposed to be a subversion of "They're the same picture", but now the conversation doesn't work anymore.
Corporate wants you to find the difference between the two pictures, not just confirm that they are indeed different. They know that.
47The point is that they are so clearly different pictures that it doesn't need explained
-12should've changed it to similarities in the first panel.
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That’s probably exactly what happened.
Anyway, I’m glad you reposted. This is a good point that people need to remember.
35Reddit is just another Israeli propaganda hole pretending to be objective and fair. All those stereotypes of the "Jews are controlling the media" sure are not being dismissed with their handling of the latest crisis information coming out. At this point I give zero fucks for Israel or funding them anything, it's not good seeing US arms destroying innocents, and that includes our shitty foreign policy on other nations. We need to stop acting like petulant angry chimps.
9“Jews are controlling the media”
"The US bourgeoisie control the anglophone media and Israel is their aircraft carrier in the middle east"
I hate how much people are able to channel antizionism into antisemitism, and how Israel actively encourages it.
7You can criticize zionists without giving credit to anti-semitic conspiracies.
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I think because it suggests that there is such thing as Israeli Ethnostate. There is Israel, in which you have about 25% Arab citizens. Far from being ethnostate, the Arab citizens enjoy equal rights and protections from the state.
1Israel passed a controversial new “nation-state law” last week that’s sparking both celebration and fierce debate over the very nature of Israel itself.
The law does three big things:
It states that “the right to exercise national self-determination” in Israel is “unique to the Jewish people."
It establishes Hebrew as Israel’s official language, and downgrades Arabic — a language widely spoken by Arab Israelis — to a “special status.”
It establishes “Jewish settlement as a national value” and mandates that the state “will labor to encourage and promote its establishment and development.”
20Fuck no.
6Far from being ethnostate, the Arab citizens enjoy equal rights and protections from the state.
Are you blatantly lying or are you just incredibly misinformed?
4They're right, there's a lot of Arab citizens in Israel proper who live normal lives.
It's the Arab population in occupied Gaza and West Bank that do not have equal citizenship protections.
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I would like people making this difference with every nation and not just the one or two sainted ones.
-3Replace "Israeli Ethnostate" and "Jewish People" with "Palestinian Ethnostate" and "Palestinian People." If you can't do that without it sounding like hate speech, then your post is antisemitic.
-43Palestine doesn't even possess the sovereignty they would need to be an ethnostate . . .
38wat
24That doesn't make a single bit of sense. Not all Jewish people are Israelis, in fact most of them are not. All Israelis are colonists and have the ability to leave to a different country at any time.
In contrast Palestinians have nowhere else to go because they are a colonized people trying to live on land that is being stolen from them while being bombed and shot every day. Even before Oct. 7th this has been the case.
18Not all Isralis are colonists. There were people living there before the borders were drawn who were not forced to leave, those people and their descendants are native Isralis.
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Just weird how Japan, Korea, France, Sweden, Ethiopia, China, Turkey, India, Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Denmark, South Sudan, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Nigeria, Rwanda, Morocco, Palestine, Italy, Greece, Syria, Lebanon, Austria, Croatia, Moldova, Pakistan, Nepal, India, Thailand, Yemen, Kuwait, Kazakhstan, Laos, Vietnam, Ireland, Armenia, Serbia, Uganda, etc....
...are all states created as a homeland for a particular ethnic group, yet only one ethnic group is criticized for it. 🤔
-80Germany is 40 countrys in 16 trenchcoats and contains even in its today borders more than just one ethnic group.
Also Russia??
INDIA????
Dude...
42only one ethnic group is criticized for it
China had received international condemnation for the treatment of Uyghurs (recently) and other groups (historically). Rwanda's treatment of minorities was pretty big news a while back. I don't think you'd need to look too far for coverage on the treatment of recent immigrants in the EU.
31Wow, this definitely is the most insane claim I have seen in the last 3 months at least.
27Except none of the examples you've listed above are ethnic states. Russia, China, Turkey and India are multi-ethnic societies. Japan, Korea, France ,Sweden, have a ethno-linguistic bias, but it is still supportive of pluralistic societies. Pakistan is a synthetic ethnoreligious-state created on the basis of Islam, but ethno-linguistic sentiments are still strong withing Balochi, Pathans, Afghani, Sindhi, Punjabi and other minority groups living there.
16You do realise that there is not one Israeli ethnicity, right?
-3Israel is also a pluralistic society, in which all citizens (a quarter of which are not Jewish) are guaranteed complete equal rights under the law. There are multiple Arab parties in the parliament (Knesset).
Can you explain why France has a greater number of Arabic speakers than Israel but no Arabic language schools, while Israel has hundreds of state funded Arabic language schools that parents can choose to send their kids?
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Really, foreign powers went into Japan, colonized it, held it for decades, and then gave it to a group of people who aren’t from there and forced 700,000 indigenous Japanese to leave their country and live in a concentration camp?
6As a student of history, how many "decades" was Palestine under rule by a foreign power before 1948? What date were the people of Palestine first conquered?
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The difference I've seen is that people generally seem to be able to call out the crimes or bad behaviour of any of these governments without being called 'racist to _____ ethnic group'. It has to go both ways, people need to stop blaming the crimes of Israeli governing party on the Jewish people as a whole, AND supporters of the that party's actions need to stop labelling any criticism of them as antisemitic.
4ITT people queueing up to justify antisemitism.
Jews have been the scapegoats of the world's problems for thousands of years. All of these people taking their sanctimonious "pro-Palestinian / anti-Zionist" stances are literally descendants of antisemitic ideology which is deeply rooted in Christianity, Islam and European politics.
They will say Israel stole land. But ignore how many other countries exist because of thousands of years of violent conflict. Can we talk about ethnic cleansing not only during, but after WWII where people of German ancestry even if they had no blood on their hands, were raped, massacred and driven out of certain countries and blanket pardens were given so "they weren't war crimes." Yet everyone accepts these countries and their current ethnic makeup.
I stand by my position which is that in our current global political system, the ability to occupy and defend land is the determining factor of sovereignty and almost all of us benefit directly from past atrocities. And that has been the case throughout history.
If we want a better world, and I'm all for that, we have to begin with honesty and self-reflection. Piling on one country/group is a distraction and won't solve anything.
-8Lol, so not supporting genocide is now antisemitism. Other people got to commit genocide so Israel should too. All while acting like Israel is getting piled on for no reason other than being Jewish, as if no one's criticized Russia or China or South Africa for the same thing.
That's some evil manipulative fucking shit right there.
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Jewish people aren't an ethnic group any more than Christians, Muslims, Buddhists etc.
Judaism is simply a religion.
Edit: Well TIL. Apologies, I didn't mean to appear ignorant. Thank you to the people who have pointed out my misunderstanding. I will be reading more about this and try to get a better grasp on this topic.
-13You are 100% wrong. The word "Jewish" has a dual meaning and you're ignoring the more relevant one. Try consulting a dictionary sometime. Or talk to a Jew about what it means to be Jewish.
15In order to be Jewish your mother needs to be Jewish. Converted Jews are widely shunned by the Jewish community.
Anyone can convert to those other religions without needing a certain ethnicity.
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