Mom faces charges after toddler accidentally fires gun in Walmart, police say

The solution is obviously to try toddlers as adults.

Another opportunity to talk to your toddler about good trigger discipline.

"Aim at the head, shoulders, not the toes, not the toes."

That's why my new bill would mandate that all babies receive in-womb gun-safety training. New borns are expected to complete a gun-safety test. If they fail, they're shot and killed. We only care about life until birth.

EVERYONE is a responsible gun owner until they aren’t.

There are, mostly in fact. For some rough math, there are 333,287,557 people in the US, about 50% of which own guns for a rough 166,643,778.5 gun owners. There are 60,000 yearly gun deaths including suicides, accidents, and intentional firearm homicides, for a total of 0.036004944523026% of gun owners likely to be irresponsible leading to death in any given year.

Couple notes, this doesn't include illegally owned guns/gun owners in the number (166,643,778.5) of gun owners, because we can't have that number by the nature of it. Most gun crime excluding suicide comes from them though, and so the 60,000 does include them. This also doesn't include people only injured or non injurious irresponsibility or negligent discharge, as often this goes unreported and so far as I can find isn't tracked well likely due to difficulty. That surely does happen as well, like the idiots filming themselves pointing it at the camera (and their own stupid hand). But these figures can at least paint a picture that somewhere around .036% of gun owners/yr are in the "irresponsible" camp, +/- .002% for margin of error.

I do agree, it should be talked about, we can learn from others' mistakes and lessen the frequency. We should also talk about it when people use them correctly in self defense, or training, IDPA, etc, because that is a lot more frequent and we can learn from good examples as well.

I think there's a big problem with responsible gun owners defending irresponsible gun owners. Like, there's a knee-jerk reaction when someone says guns are dangerous, even though you're supposed to always act as though they are dangerous.

Every gun owner thinks they're a responsible gun owner.

Current estimates say there are 475 million guns in the US and around 330 million people. About 1.5 guns per person on average.

You just never hear about the responsible gun owners. ;)

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Evidently. If this is what people call "well-regulated" these days....

I think the biggest difference between then and now in that regard isn't the meaning of "well regulated". It's "being necessary to the security of a free State". The expectation at the time was that we wouldn't have a standing professional army to defend the nation in times of war, and we'd have to conscript militias. This was the norm at the time, and the US being a new, and therefore poor, nation, that is what the plan was. However, that isn't the case anymore. The whole second amendment hinges on militias being necessary, and since it isn't its moot.

I'm fine with "gun rights" and ownership of firearms, with reasonable expectations. I think they're fun to use, and they have a purpose. A certain level of training and competency should be required though (training paid by taxes so poor people can also own them), and should include proper storage lessons.

As a victim of a toddler pinch I have no doubt they can pull a trigger.

Not a super knowledgeable gun guy, but I think a fairly common example is for the "safety" to be part of the trigger. Safety's traditionally weren't meant to prevent someone from shooting the gun, they were there to prevent the gun from going off if you dropped it.

I live on the other side of the country and this has been my experience with every Walmart I've ever visited.

I've never experienced issues in any other Walmart personally.

I've never personally had issues in any other Walmart.

Taurus, and this model in particular, is known as a cheap piece of shit probably purchased and carried by someone lacking intellect and sophistication... You know, the type who would have the thing sloshing around unattended in a purse, with no holster.