Delta Airlines plane's engine burst into flames shortly after takeoff from Los Angeles
Video shows plane's engine burst into flames shortly after takeoff from LAX
Just testing if people will pay extra for a nonexploding plane.
not defending Boeing (proud Airbus fangirl lol) but i see a lot of comments blaming Boeing. think it's an important detail that the aircraft manufacturers don't make the engines. The 767s are powered by General Electric CF6, Pratt and Whitney JT9Ds or RollsRoyce RB211s etc. Boeing didn't make them. also modern airliners have engine fire extinguisher bottles that are activated within the cockpit to put out the fire (the same handle also cuts fuel to the affected engine so the fire doesn't reignite) because the affected engine no longer functions it's best to return to the airport afterwards
Boeing is a fucking huge problem, defending them is cancer at best.
Thank you! People love to pile on every time there's a blip in the news. Yes Boeing needs to be restructured and monitored closely for compliance, but so many Boeing related incidents are on the airline for poor maintenance, not manufacturing problems
Also I'd rather fly in a Boeing plane maintained by Alaska Airlines than an Airbus maintained by Delta. Delta is the Boeing of airlines lol
But isn’t Boeing responsible of the maintenance?
the responsibility for maintenance of the engines falls on the airline. occasionally you do get defective parts which are on the manufacturer, such as the Rolls Royce Trent 1000s which had issues with the intermediate pressure (IP) turbine blades being more susceptible to fatigue cracking related to corrosion. that was on Rolls Royce
Not at all. The airline is responsible for maintenance. Engines may be maintained by the OEM, but these ancient engines, that may not be the case.
Boeing is famous for enshittifying its part manufacturers. Even if it wasn't manufactured by boing, if it is in a boing plane chances are that boing pressured them to make it faster/for cheaper. Which is what leads to all these plane failures.
What are you gonna do? Lose the boing contract and be out of work? Or sacrifice quality to meet boing's demands? This is the only possible outcome.
boing boing
Was it just surging or like a compressor stall or something? FOD like a bird ingestion or something?
I mean, Boeing has/had quality problems, serious ethical failures, but also birds exist.
(I’m not good at explaining this, maybe should have found an explanation online somewhere instead.) You know those stages of a combustion engine - intake, compression, ignition, exhaust, all happening in sequence in an engine’s cylinders? Turbine engines do them too, but in a straight line and constantly. The front of the engine is obviously intake, but compressor fans do the compression just using fast and powerful fans, no seals or valves needed. Ignition lights everything up, exhaust can just flow out the back. (It flows over some more fan blades that steal some power from the expanding gases and use it to keep the whole thing spinning.)
Unless something goes wrong with the compressor fan blades, that is. If compression is too weak and the ignited air/fuel mixture can flow back out the front of the engine, that’s bad. And yeah, it happens sometimes, with any engine. Almost never with both at the same time. (Both engines failing at once low to the ground is like a once in a generation thing, and yeah it’s really really bad. And really really rare.)
but also birds exist
Lotta people on the internet who would disagree with that one buddy
I'm sure an engine would have just as tough of a time with a spy drone as with a hypothetical flying animal XD
I have seen news stories describe engine surges as "bursting into flames" before, but that's not the case here.
The video of the incident shows a small but sustained flame emerging from the bottom-rear of the engine, well below the engine's core.
There was an engine fire but in typical journalistic fashion it was far short of bursting into flames.
Unlikely to be boeing's fault as they don't make the engines, just the airframes.
Edit: An engine surge/compressor stall is the plane's version of a backfire. Big bang and a burst of flames. Very exciting, but very little danger beyond the loss of thrust. This incident wasn't a surge, but the last time I saw mainstream news say an engine "burst into flames" it was.
Better article about this incident
Fun fact, the FAA maintains a public data base about all the reported major issues with an airframe. This plane is reported as tail number N836MH and you can look up all of the service difficulty reports Here.
Isn't delta the one who wants to use a bidding war for seats?
AI. To maximize what you'll pay for a seat.
It sounds like they are already using it to minimize what they pay for maintenance.
ill pay extra to get a seat on a working plane!
I’m not going to fly Boeing. I don’t trust the US to have enforced strong and transparent building standards. EU with Airbus all the way.
Boeing doesn’t make the engines.
I think I will be forgoing air travel for the foreseeable future.
Delta flight 446 landed safely, and the plane taxied to the gate on its own with no sign of a fire at that point. Passengers were able to deplane normally...
Delta said customers were reaccommodated on a new aircraft to their final destinations.
This was little more than an inconvenience for the passengers. The news always uses deliberately alarming language to entice a click. There was an actual engine fire this time, but it was a small one that appears to be out before they landed.
Commercial aviation is orders of magnitude safer than cars. The occasional incident is national news because they are rare. Fatal car crashes happen so often they aren't even newsworthy.
I can just hear the Trump reprobates advising their supporters....... "If we cut Regulations further, we something something something and MAGA! Fuck the Commies."
Sounds like a AI pricing problem.
That bird is probably older than you are
The 767-400ER was first introduced in September 2000. Where do you get your probabilities, plane expert?
If it’s Boeing I ain’t going