Never forget
Never forget
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Aah, yes BUUUUT, Aaron did it to help his fellow humans, whereas Yuckerberg is doing it to enrich billionaires, it's not comparable!
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Yes, Mark Zuckerberg is justified. The disadvantaged company of his needed that material. /s
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RIP, Aaron.
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I despise meta and the fact they're not being punished for this.
He didn't just download stuff, he installed a server on their network to do it. A bit different.
His punishment was still beyond the pale.
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He also had every legal right to download those articles
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Its fair to note he was never sentenced.
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Because he killed himself, they offered him a terribly unfair plea deal.
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Mark Zuckerberg doesn't get enough credit for being one of the most garbage humans to ever exist. He's done so much damage to the human collective, and yet gets to skate and not be blamed. Enjoy your chunk of Hawaii dickhead.
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Underhated? 🤔
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On this echo chamber site, he's maybe appropriately hated. To the world at large he's definitely not
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Social Media bullshit was going to happen either way. Silicon Valley is full of wannabe Zucks so I'm not sure things would turn out different either way.
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“...but what should we do when the highborn and wealthy take to crime? Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger, how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man who breaks the law out of greed?”
― Terry Pratchett, Snuff
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Remember to incorporate before doing anything illegal
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The rules aren't real. Laws are made up.
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Oh they're real. They're just not objective. The only thing that defines reality is how much money you have. Then you get to say what actually happened.
If you got enough money, you didn't rape a person, they're just "mentally unstable and making libellous claims".
If you haven't got enough money, you didn't simply make a mistake, you ALMOST DESTROYED THE FABRIC OF CIVILIZED SOCIETY, forced labour, 200 years.
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I mean...
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RIP Aaron.
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It's up to the middle class to start making things right. Slaughter these motherfuckers who hold seats at the table of the above-the-law elites. Their boots crush our necks with more pressure Every. Single. Day.... It's high-time to fuck some motherfuckers up so we don't have more stories like Aaron.
I was a very early Reddit user and remember when all this went down. If he could only see what Reddit has been slowly morphed into... literally the complete opposite of what the founder envisioned.
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Yea pretty much. The last few years have radicalized me HARD, fuck the capitalists and the fascists that defend it, the only good capitalist is a dead capitalist.
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Aaron wasn’t a founder. He came in a year or two after Reddit was founded.
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Everyone knows that laws are just for the poors.
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My grandfather was a fortunate man all his life. He enjoyed a lot of success in his personal life, in business, and in every aspect. We didn't talk a whole lot, but when he started feeling sick and we knew the end was coming, he opened up quite a bit.
One day I went to visit him and he motioned for me to come closer. I moved closer to his bed, the bed we both probably knew that would be his deathbed. He had a stern look on his face, and he gave a gravelly whisper: "Son, do you want to know the secret to good fortune?"
The hair on the back of my neck stood up. I knew I was only seconds away from learning whatever combination of wisdom, luck and skill that he had worked on his whole life.
He told me: "If you want to be successful, first make a billion dollars."
Since then, I've noticed he was absolutely correct. Ever notice how the world itself seems to bend to the will of billionaires? From that day on, I was a changed man and I vowed to get that billion dollars for myself.
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Tsk. Aaron Schwartz was a person, silly - and thus subject to laws in the USA.
Mark Zuckerberg directed his company Facebook to perform the illegal action. Facebook is a corporation - and thus writes the laws in the USA, while of course being exempt to them (barring occasional small fines to keep the rabble believing they're not).
One day maybe the rest of the US public will wake up to the fact that it's a corporate oligarchy and take some action, but I don't think it will be until some really irrefutable and impactful issues occur. Bread and circuses, as they say. Or maybe Walmart and Netflix to update the idiom.
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Well, it's his own fault for not being a billionaire!
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Remember also during the pandemic that a bunch of publushers got up in arms about archive.org opening up their library to be unrestricted, to make sure access to books was easier at a time when people who relied on libraries could no longer access them.
They then talked authors into supporting the lawsuit due to "lost revenue".
After a few months the authors realised it had done literally no damage and several asked the publishers to drop the lawsuit. But it turns out this wasn't for the authors, it was for publishers, who see online libraries as a threat to be stopped.
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Aaron was facing charges, and a really bad deal, and he took his life. He was never sentenced because there was no time for that, but it's obvious that things weren't going well for him, and that he was attacked disproportionally.
Meta is still facing investigation and will go to court still, and will very likely face charges for torrenting the data, same as Anthropic. They have not been sentenced because there was been no trial yet, it's still under investigation, because it will be a harsher penalty if it can be proved that they uploaded in addition to downloaded.
I think this is inaccurate enough to consider it misinformation (IMHO).
Yes, it is obvious that we all should fight Meta and praise Aaron Swartz. And it's true that the legal system is fucked up, and someone with power and money is in total advantage. But as despicable as Meta is, I don't think that saying wrong things is going to be the way to fight for our rights. There are already good enough arguments if we stay true to the facts.
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Has anyone noticed that Aaron looks a lot like John Mulaney?
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Funded by Peter Thiel, Co-founder of PayPal and data analytics firm, Palantir, a major contractor for the CIA. Google is another major tech player in what I call "The War for Reality", a multi-prong assault on the U.S. populace and democracy spanning everywhere from the Epstein honeypot to the Fed to Neil Tyson and Billy Graham with our "special relationship" with Israel acting as a key foothold in this operation.
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Sweetest boy we were ever privileged to have. Do all you can to keep information free.
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Wasn't he also a bisexual icon?
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"Took his life"
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Hamburger time for Mark.
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Aaron swartz was a free speech absolutist. Not so sure he would have been on the side you want him to be on.
Aside from the whole r/jailbait grossness.
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What does that even mean? Aaron Swartz cowrote creative commons which was to allow for sharing some rights, not all rights. Aaron would not have stood for the scalping of people's work to create profit driven AI models. Do you just make things up without having any knowledge on the subject?
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I bet he'd be chillin on Twitter with the rest of his free speech absolutist homies.
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His death was the start of the split of the internet ideology. There's a decent chance he would've wound up like a lot of us did, but yes there's a chance he would've wound up like the technofascist side.
Most realistically though he'd probably have wound up like the peers he liked like Doctrow.
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Aaron Swartz would have never taken his own life; he was murdered for the danger that he posed to those in power.
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I read a piece a while back that included a lot of comments from people close to him. They said that the federal case against him severely demoralised him, because even if his punishment ended up being minor, it would be enough to basically destroy his ability to lobby/campaign for the issues he was passionate about, effectively destroying his career. He was also apparently someone who was quite uncomfortable with the limelight, and the case against him made him into the kind of public figure who can get no respite from the public gaze. I can't imagine how overwhelming that must've felt.
I've seen no evidence to suggest that Aaron Schwartz didn't take his own life. However, morally, I would agree that he was murdered.
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I also seem to remember reading something like that. I had to go digging for it again. Was it "Requiem for a Dream" in The New Yorker?
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One should also note that Aaron did it to share scientific knowledge, meta did it to generate more profit
update based on comments: perhaps better to say probably share and and/or gain access to scientific data for non profit research purposes
And that JSTOR didn't want sue him, it was the DA pursuing it. Afaik JSTOR even published the articles in question for free 3 months after he downloaded them, basically agreeing with his criticism.
Fuck Meta. Reddit is doing it to itself with Google's help. That's even more of a slap to his face than facebook.
Yes that was an interpretation on my part given his perspective on making such information publicly available, hard to imagine he would be doing anything else with it. Nevertheless, updated my comment.
There's also a decent case to be made that he wasn't planning on sharing it at all. He might have just been using the articles, which he had permission to access, to do research.