Reddit is now allowing advocacy of Child Marrige because they don't want to be seen as islamophobes
Reddit is now allowing advocacy of Child Marrige because they don't want to be seen as islamophobes
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.... Why is the little girl blurred out but the little boy isn't?
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Islam.
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So a random mod speaks for Reddit? What kind of BS is this post
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A random mod for the Karachi subreddit
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Yea I know, but the post says that the admins accept it, which is false
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This is a stupid, dishonest and embarrassing post.
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Painting the whole of reddit based on the actions of a single non-admin moderator on a religious subreddit of all things feels dishonest as hell, tbh.
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Well, an admin not stepping in also speaks volumes. They were more than happy to step in when we complained about API changes.
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Yes, reddit admins are famously shit and famously have the most skewed priorities in history, but that still doesn't make this cherry-picked example a good representation of reddit as a whole.
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to be fair the vast majority of administration on reddit is now automated by bots. If you've ever been admin banned it tells you as much. So the real issue should be what filters/flags have been applied and why would the bot ignore something like this post/mod?
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Reddit deleted my NSFW subreddit for no reason except it was competition for the girls they personally pimp out. They 100% take an active role and could deal wirh this if they wanted to.
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Yeah, I walked away from reddit a couple of years ago now. I've been over there occasionally searching for something in particular and niche community this is definitely not the vibe for most of it.
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This comment mentions finding it. It was ~2 hours after yours, maybe they added it back or something. https://lemmy.world/comment/18690799
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Yeah, my bad then. I expected this to be a recent thing, not from months ago, didn't think of checking their profile that far back.
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Religion. Leave it and open your eyes to the real world. Stop believing in fairy tales.
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Being a child diddler has no religion. Even with Islam the people who advocate for child marriage still hold the same morals.
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I know we all hate Reddit, but you don't have to sink as low as this. This is a single post, hardly reddit's stance.
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well on the plus side we do the same thing with lemmy instances so at least we're consistent
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Yes😉
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The point being made is that reddit Admins have zero problem banning anything that does not fit their "narrative". And that narrative has a hierarchy not based on basic morality and common sense. Ask yourself this question, even if there was a single post, would reddit Admins allow the promotion of child marriage by a Christian religious group that was mostly comprised of White people?
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The problem with morality is that there is no such thing as “basic morality” literally every human being has their own personal set of morals.
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How is that the point being made? This isn't an admin.
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Big shocker. This is what happens when you declare "All cultures are equally valid and no culture is better or more moral than any other"
When you refuse to stand on your own morals, sniveling and bowing to cultures that would just as soon destroy yours and replace it with its own, this is what happens. You can to give up your morals and replace them with the morals of your conqueror.
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This is idiocy.
No one is coming into these discussions saying “well yes, theft and assault is bad but the theft and assault culture likes it so there’s nothing we can do!”
And anyone saying otherwise either took the bait, hook and all, or is an idiot.
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It's because u/spez is a human trafficker helper who had Ghilisaine Maxwell as a major contributor on Reddit before her arrest. It's because BRICS is a global movement by the wealthy to bring about slavery/"corporate monarchy". BRICS employs human traffickers and social media extensively to get blackmail on people and to find ideal victims. That includes Iran and Saudi Arabia (a somewhat secret player).
The Muslim people I've known (from Egypt, mainly) were not chill with sexism or marrying kids, at all. They are extremely generous and kind and educated. Don't let stupid asshole wealthy people create bot narrative lies to trick poor people into slavery.
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This is a single post, hardly "Reddit".
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Yeah, I was gonna say, this is a community moderator not a site admin.
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An admin not stepping in does reflect on Reddit. They have shown they won't hesitate to step in when they actually care about the issue.
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Reddit Admins ALL THE TIME, will remove posts and comments that the subreddit mods have allowed to post. And in some cases it may result in the ban of the poster and even of the group mod that approved it
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The Karachi subreddit lol
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Religion is poison
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DEPORTED!
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"U.S. states - As of July 2025, child marriage is legal in 34 states."
4 states have no minimum age (effectively 0).
2 states have a minimum age of 15.
20 states have a minimum age of 16.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States#Marriage_age
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Let’s be honest here, the United States aren’t the standard they claim to be.
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You European? They don't have a leg to stand on here. Marriage age is buck wild over there! Europe! What's up with that?!
If not, check your country! Bet money that neither marriage nor age of consent is pegged at 18.
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Anyone who knows anything about the US would never claim such a thing...
Only people claiming this are suburban trash living their sheltered life who need to feel superior after reading something like this.
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One ex of mine got married at 17, another at 18 (Appalachian milfs and I have a thing for each other). Neither decision was good, and people may think it's only a year, but the difference is drastic. At 18 you're legally an adult, but at 17 you aren't. At 17 you lack rights that your adult spouse has, like to file for divorce and to open bank accounts independently.
The minimum marriage age should be the age of majority and I don't care if your culture dislikes it. If you don't trust someone is old enough to sign a contract, why are you letting someone sign that contract? If they aren't old enough to purchase pornography, why are you letting them enter into a legal commitment with a sexual component? If they can't legally independently demand divorce why are you letting them marry at all?
We had to put a line between child and adult somewhere and 18 seems a pretty good place, but crossing that line grants an immense amount of freedom and independence.
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Too immature to be allowed to drink. Mature enough to raise children.
Yeah, no. Marriage should be 21 and up.
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Appalachian milfs and I have a thing for each other
Thanks, I blew air out of my nose harder than usual.
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Surprised at your comment. Just last month I read a review of all variations of milfs in the US. Top rated milfs were the Appalachian milfs. And it makes sense. They marry young and have kids when they are young. They have much less mileage on them compared to the overwhelming amount of milfs.
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If you're going to allow marriage below the age of majority, emancipation should be included. It makes a terrible idea just slightly better.
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You can soon vote in the UK at age 16
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United States states ?
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That Wikipedia article is very poorly written and seems to contradict itself in the same paragraph multiple times. But I'm not surprised that the main locations for child marriages are Appalachia and the Jello-Belt. Backwoods hicks and ultra rural Mormons are the two main demographics i correlate with child marriage.
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Aisha was six when she and Muhammad were married. I'm not sure it really compares
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Check age of consent laws for American states. Find that outrageous? LOL, next have a look at Europe.
If it's legal to have sex with a 16 or 17 year old, it's legally consistent to allow marriage.
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You are working under the assumption that the consequences of sex and marriage are the same. Much of the world doesn't agree, as per your list.
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You both need to check Aisha's age before even comparing US or Europe to it
Classical Islamic sources state that Aisha was six at the time of her marriage with Muhammad and nine at the time of its consummation.
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It's called MAGA.
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Maga can imagine
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Dude, Mary was between 12 and 16 when she gave birth to Jesus. And don’t get me started on the story of Lot and his daughters in the Old Testament.
Between OP and the comments, what a stupid fucking post…
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So I can still state a corrigendum? Cool.
Corrigendum: That's supremely fucked up, and anyone that advocates for that deserves to be punched in the dick by a thousand prize-fighters.
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Don't be duped by fairy tale stories of any variety that seek to shackle your mind.
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Hmm... Yeah... So because children were raped 1400 years ago, some loser cuck should be entitled to rape children today?
Sure buddy, age is just a number and the wood chipper is just a place
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cuck seems like a weird word to use here
consider what you're accusing them of being, what the post says they're doing, and what cuck means happens to their victim
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I'm in favour of using cuck non-literally to express scorn, derision, disgust, etc. I think it's a good replacement for all the homophobic words that were used that way decades ago (more recently for some).
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Well most of these are pedos are "conservative"
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remember, feet first
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This seems like a subreddit rule. Has Reddit ever ruled specifically for or against this?
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I prefer to follow the “half your age + 7” method in finding out the youngest age of maturity your partner should be.
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Maybe, but I'm 30 and honestly don't want to date anyone younger than 25.
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You're allowed to do whatever you want lol, it's not strictly saying you have to consider everyone half your age plus 7. If you only wanna date people older than you that's fine too, it's whatever.
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207 for me. Makes sense, I'm told I'm an old soul.
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Damn man, you're old as fuck. What was it like growing up in the mid 1700s?
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I have a weird take that will give me downvotes.
In the US we grow up with 18 being an adult and consent for most things (driving is the exception and why I say "most things" )
I don't agree with marriage under 18.
In other countries though that is not the case and that is their custom. And I'm in no position to argue on some other cultures customs IN their country.
If you're in a country where underage marriage is acceptable, and you move to the US, then it is unacceptable.
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In other countries though that is not the case and that is their custom. And I'm in no position to argue on some other cultures customs IN their country.
If its harmful to people then yes, you should. Child marriage, raping children, lack of women's right, and murding LGBT is not acceptable, I'm not going to sit here and say "oh it's their culture so it's okay", it's fucked up and yes, they should change.
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Okay but who decides if its harmful? Plenty of peoole get married at 18-20 and it fucks them up. Plenty of insanely rich old dudes marry 18 year olds. Does that mean we should increas the marriage age?
What about if we had people from another cukture that thought people werent adults until 30? Since that is justifiable as your brain is still developing until around that age. Would you then describe anyone that marries someone in their 20s as raping children?
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I think people generally agree with you, but there are limits to what people will tolerate anywhere. For instance if Rwanda made a law requiring Hutus to murder of Tutsis, most people would say that's unacceptable even in Rwanda.
There's obviously a bright line between ok and not ok in that example, but for marriage it could be a little more unclear. Sure, maybe a 17 year old marrying a 19 year old is ok in some places and not others, but overall no one will probably be that upset about it. However, a majority of the world has a problem with a 50 year old marrying a 10 year old. Where exactly the line is crossed is open to debate, but pretty much everyone agrees there should be a line. Most countries are picking 18 as that line because it's better to have an imperfect choice rather than none at all.
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Almost all age of consent laws and marriage laws (not finding a good map on this one) start well into puberty. Pretty funny seeing all the 18 countries right next to "no age" countries.
And the US is all over the place! I could hop any of 3 state lines and bangin' a 16-yo is fine. Meanwhile, at home, 17 would see me in a concrete and steel box. Weird. Of course our laws make Europe look positively rapey, if one believes 18 is some moral, hard limit. Guess it's no surprise our laws are more puritanical.
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In other countries though that is not the case and that is their custom. And I'm in no position to argue on some other cultures customs IN their country.
You sure about that?
Classical Islamic sources state that Aisha was six at the time of her marriage with Muhammad and nine at the time of its consummation.
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I dislike the fact that your completely reasonable and understandable position which essentially boils down to "local laws and customs differ, so we must all follow the laws of the local land for who am I, an outsider, to cast my judgement upon others" is factually and correctly labeled as having a weird take.
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Because anything that coukd be vaguely linked to pedophilia becomes part of the moral high horse content where if you dont take on as extremly negative opinion as someone else, well then youre obviously a pedo or defending pedos. So there can exist no nuanced discussion on any issues like this because people will see it and jump on the chance to show everyone how morally superior they are, by having a more extreme opinion on it than the other guy.
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Only 10 US states peg age of consent at 18. Most are 17 a several are 16.
Check Europe's age of consent and age of marriage laws.
If teens getting married or fucking bothers anyone here, have a look at your own laws before casting stones at the US.
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give me downvotes
Okay
I didn’t read your take but imma guess it’s popular opinion
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Its not really a culture issue though. In the US we decided on 18 because that's the age it is believed that people can make decisions for themselves. Personally I think it should probably be higher. In other countries that have a lower age of consent don't do it because they think the kids are mature enough to make that decision. They do it because they view the kids as similar to slaves who have to do what they are told. If it is a culture thing, then should culture be enforced through threat of death i.e. honor killings? They just use culture as an excuse to be shitty.
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And people wonder why Islam is the most hated religion in the world
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Numbers 31:17-18
Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him.
But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him keep alive for yourselves.
People need to understand that religion was shaped by culturally accepted practices of the time, and shit was pretty universally fucked up 5000 years ago.
Also child marriage is still legal in most US states and the first state to make it illegal (Delaware) did so in 2018.
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Before 1968, many Southern US states put the age of consent at 14, and with the parents' permission it could be as low as 12.
Cultural norms change, and religion is always behind the times. But fuck anyone thinking it's still OK.
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Here’s a hint, buddy all religions are like this not just the Muslims, Google how old Mary was when she had Jesus, but you don’t fucking care, none of you pedo dip shits do
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western propaganda, specifically from right winger and christianity, your percieving fundamentalist of any religion as a wrong thing
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Religion aside, I have a solid argument for child marriage. Funny that no one who espouses the idea ever brings this up.
Being married gives one a lot more legal options and rights. Say an old man marries a young cousin so as to grease the wheels on his inheritance. Americans often marry so the other party can get health insurance. As with inheritance, the child could realize property rights they would not have access to.
Point being, people get married for reasons outside of love and sex.
Another thought, as socially conservative as we Americans are, it's a wonder no politicians run on moving state marriage and consent ages to match our nationwide age of majority (18). Maybe it turns out to be a poisonous talking point? Can't imagine anyone arguing, out loud anyway, for teen marriage. Weird.
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Why not adopt the child instead? It bestows far more protection on the child, including protection against sexual abuse. It has every other advantage that marriage would have.
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Another thought, as socially conservative as we Americans are, it's a wonder no politicians run on moving state marriage and consent ages to match our nationwide age of majority (18). Maybe it turns out to be a poisonous talking point? Can't imagine anyone arguing, out loud anyway, for teen marriage. Weird.
No, we do have Republican representatives who do openly argue for lowering the minimum marriage age. Like...a lot. All the fucking time, really
This happens so often I can't even give you a list of names... And I have no idea why no one seems to talk about this
Also, they get caught with CP or kids a lot. Lot of venom diagram overlap... Go figure
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Didn't mean conservative politically, meant to comment on our overall sexual and social conservatism. America is, and always has been, weirdly Puritan.
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Being married gives one a lot more legal options and rights.
Where? Because it's not like that anywhere I know of. At best you get some small tax breaks. Certainly no more rights or legal options other than those purely related to marriage. Like being able to get divorced.
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Ever been married? Sure seems to grease a lot of legal wheels, makes life easier, like it's the "default" position in life. That's all I meant.
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I think the inheritance part is true, if your spouse dies and you have joint ownership of the home and bank accounts, they're not being inherited, you already fully own them
You can do this without marriage, but you can't do this for the purposes of tax avoidance... If you give your child joint ownership out of nowhere, you'll need to explain why if the IRS starts asking questions. And there are valid answers, like if they work the family farm or business, it does make sense that they should gain ownership as their responsibility grows. Things can also be gifted for less tax obligations or put into a trust (and those rules are very wonky), but this is a simple traditional practice
But with marriage? You can claim "this is just how we do marriage, we have joint finances", and that is an accepted cultural behavior in most places. You can do it immediately, and it offers legal protection as well... For things such as medical malpractice, only the negligent party is exposed, so you cut the maximum amount that can be collected to your combined ownership/2 - primary home and other basics
Granted, I think "but this way we can cheat the system and pay less taxes" is a terrible rationale for child marriage...
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please as a quranist don't generalize us with sunnis
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scripture is blasphemy
nothing written by man could even begin to conceptualize the word of the almighty
what you call the holy word is fiction written by men and conflated to be the word of god
if there's a hell: writing, reading, quoting, and promoting scripture seems like a great way to go there
trust the relationship with god you find within you and fuck all that manipulative scripture bullshit
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sunni muslim countries don't allow that (i live in it [ if i leave it it's punishable by death]) sunni muslims also support that
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Sorry but: No god no master!
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Don’t say sorry for that.
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This one is about Reddits chaos No different to the unfettered Nazi bullshit. Extremely unlikely that Reddit can be accused of being too woke or Pro-Islam.