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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth reposts video of pastors saying women shouldn't vote

www.npr.org /2025/08/09/nx-s1-5497226/women-pastor-pete-hegseth-vote

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has reposted and praised a video interview of a self-described Christian nationalist pastor whose church doesn't believe women should be allowed to vote.

Doug Wilson, senior pastor of Christ Church in Idaho, said during the interview with CNN that, "Women are the kind of people that people come out of."

"The wife and mother, who is the chief executive of the home, is entrusted with three or four or five eternal souls," he continued.

In the CNN interview, Wilson also defended previous comments where he had said there was mutual affection between slaves and their masters. He also said that sodomy should be recriminalized. The Supreme Court invalidated sodomy laws in 2003.

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Mark my words: if this goes on long enough, they'll eventually praise slavery openly, without allusion or euphemism.
- Removing citizenship from women is slavery
- Doug Wilson, head of the church Pete Hegseth attends, and the "pastor" mentioned in this article has a book about how slavery was good, actually.
  
  I think the proponents of such stupid theories should offer themselves up for being owned by someone else, then.
- Just a friendly reminder, slavery has been an active part of the Neoliberal agenda since the 60s. For-profit prisons use their prisoner population to do factory work (cus nobody cares about them or their wellbeing), and the products of which can then be sold on the open market, which undercuts and drives small businesses out of operation.
  Prison labor has touched and destroyed countless American industries, and has genuinely done more damage to the idea of a "free market" than every Communist on the planet combined. How exactly does one compete against a business whose cost-basis is quite literally the cost of Nutriloaf?
  
  Do you know a specific industry for which this is true? I'd like to find an example.
- From what I remember about recent changes to Florida's history books they already are.
- I've already heard them say about slaves who were brought here, their descendants have a better life now than they would have otherwise. Something like that. Look at that, they were just trying to help a brother out. /s (that last part)
- Why wait? They already do basically that with prison farms.
  Ya’ll really love to wait until the bad things have already happened to still do nothing about it, huh?
  
  Can you please not just attack someone randomly by building up a straw-man and interpreting way more in their comment than they actually said?
  
  Watch out for the keyboard warrior over here.
  
  Okay I'll bite: How? I'm willing to read any kind of answer at all that you may have to stop any of this beyond some 90s Made-For-Tv, Mallrat, Revolution Printed on a T-shirt
  
  We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas
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- “Files?! Which files? Sorry it’s a hoax. No files to see here.”
  /s (just in case)
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republiQan women - YOU did this. We told you. 100 times we told you. You wouldn’t listen.
Get wise or get used to being cattle again.
- I think you're missing the part where lots of Republican woman have been ~~raised~~ brainwashed to agree with this
  
  This. My biological father’s wife has a degree, he does not. He works, she does not, because “it isn’t a woman’s place to earn more than the man”.
  
  Not nearly enough put it into practice, though. They think they are special ones. This hypocrisy goes back to the likes of that awful human being Phyllis Schlafly.
  They are going to be as Pikachu-faced as the immigrants that voted for Taco thinking they were special, too. Kinda like a lot of idiot trad-wives were shocked that hubby and pals didn't see them as special, either.
  
  It’s nobody’s fault that you are who you are, but it’s your own fault if you stay that way.
- I cannot wait to see the faces of the likes of Qbert, who even had the audacity to be holding forth in a CHURCH. A place where she is definitely supposed to be quiet and she, as a woman, is not supposed to be in a position of authority over any man.
- "Although women as a whole have historically voted for Democrats, white women have not. Instead, over the last 72 years, a plurality of white women have voted for the Democratic candidate only twice, in 1964 and 1996."
  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/06/election-trump-harris-women-voters
I'm waiting for them to openly acknowledge that everyone can be property.
You own your wife. You own your laborers. You own your slaves. They do not get a right to vote, as they are property, but allow the owner to vote on your behalf.
I predict that essentially white male professionals and the very wealthy will be the only ones permitted to own said property. White male Doctors, lawyers, engineers, scientists, professors, managers, accountants etc. Most of these won't have their own slaves, generally they will "invest" in a wife. Why? Because they are salaried, and typically bring in a stupid amount of money compared to labor.
Consider my job - software engineer. My charge rate is twice my salary broken down into hourly pay. And quite often I have to work more than 40 hours a week - I don't make more, but my employer gets to charge more. Depending on the contracts, this means more pure profit.
Labor will still be paid in the sense that it will be more like the 1800s. Labor does not generate profit by itself (in the owners mind). Labor, therefore, is an expense, and gets treated like property on the employer's time.
In the owners mind, slaves are full property, able to be traded amongst owners. They get the benefit of being fed and being housed. Depending on their value, they may even get limited healthcare.
Women will be property, full stop. Modern educated women will be attritioned out, and young women and children will be indoctrinated that their purpose is to service men, and eventually handed to a suitor to produce children.
I want to admit something here, something gross. That last one is going to be the most difficult to fight. I am even tempted by the idea of it, simply because I'm pretty lonely (to no fault of women, but the nature of my environment). If I'm tempted by it, I am not the only one, and there are far more vulnerable men that are advocating for it.
So the question becomes, what do we do? Well, I think right now we continue to resist, we continue to defy, we continue to push the fascists into infighting.
What happens if we're unable to stop it? I can only hope that current families of women and children are highly selective about partners and continue to see the value in their independence. We don't have to make it easy for fascists to get their way.
I want to note that I didn't mention the LGTBQ+ community. In the MAGA worldview, they don't exist. Existing is a crime. It will be up to those of us who consider ourselves allies to do what we can for them, which means subversive education, which means doctors and pharmacists taking risks, which means living the saying "if you see something, no you didn't. If you know something, no you don't." This is the new culture we need to accelerate. This is vital. Germans and Russians were more than willing to report on their neighbors. We cannot allow this under any circumstances.
TL;DR: don't give them want they want.
- The problem here is that men and women who actually put thought into procreating generally have 0, 1 or 2 kids. It’s the rare few who want to manage a large family combined with the hordes who have limited forethought and mental control of their bodily urges who end up having 15 children.
  Such people also tend to start having kids earlier, so while a generation of people with no impulse control is around 18 years, a generation of people who plan ahead can be double that.
  
  Not entirely. There is a Christian movement called Quiverfull, which encourages families to have as many children as possible. That ignorant family of pedophiles and perverts that had the reality show were a perfect example.
  To clarify, many large families are due to careless responsibility, but most are just religious freaks.
- The LGBTQ populace will be eradicated, it will most likely be the first target they go for, after the immigrants, prioritized over submitting women.
  Anyone suspected of leaning towards that "lifestyle" will be seen as a possible subversive element, since it will not fit in their picture of family values.
  There will come razzias dragging people out into the streets and "deporting" them to unknown destinations.
  I can see them starting "McCarthyism" like councils to drum up fear and hatred.
  The signs are already there with lgbtq'ers being fired by the government losing all pension benefits in trump's current decreed legislation.
  I even have seen one wackjob being interviewed plainly stating gays should have no rights nor be able to have property...
  And don't forget, in this day and age at least half of the population would delight in giving their neighbors intense problems if only because said neighbors had nicer flowers in their garden or some other trivial nonsense.
  In Nazi Germany and the occupied countries there were massive amounts of collaborators terrorizing every community they were in and it had almost nothing to do with love for the Nazi's. For the US reporting deviant behavior will become the new threat of lawsuits... Heck, the government might even decide to reward such reporting.
  
  I even have seen one wackjob being interviewed plainly stating gays should have no rights nor be able to have property…
  You can see some guy saying that government should have the death penalty for gays back in The God Who Wasn't There documentary. I mean, that guy was happy to state it openly, for the cameras. This was 20 years ago, long before the likes of Taco gave them a permission structure to be their very worst.
  "It would be the government that would be executing the homosexuals".
  https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=73_IjNPmIEI
Every day we get closer to Gilead. We're living the Handmaid's Tale prequel right now
Starting to think we just might need to reconsider the status of USA as a bastion of progress and democracy
/understatement of the century
When they say they want to "make America great again" they mean before women had autonomy and minorities had rights.
I agree completely. All women who support MAGA politicians and MAGA policies shouldn't vote. The rest are fine because they don't have crazy-repressive attitudes toward women, but these ones need to walk the walk and show us how righteous they are. Should prevent bs like what we're currently experiencing and save us from autocracy and fascism.
Who knew I'd 100% agree with this drunk idiot?
Pete shouldn't breathe.
Just had someone tell me only last week that the notion that women who changed their names for marriage might have sudden "problems" when it comes to voting sounds like a conspiracy theory.
I said that plenty on the right think things started to go wrong when women were able to vote. They sneered at this notion as if it's not even a thing.
Even I didn't think some prominent member of Taco's gang would so quickly demonstrate how wrong this person was....
I don't think a lot of people should vote, but it's their right and my opinion on a matter doesn't supersede that.
These people need to crawl back into whatever sewer they climbed out of
That's an interesting opinion, but WTF has this to do with Heggy's actual job?
- His full time job is being a fascist shitbag; he just moonlights as SecDef
- Does that matter?
  
  I don't really care about his anti-democratic opinions. It's not his choice to make, whether women vote, or not. Just like I don't care if he likes vanilla or chocolate ice cream. Nor do I think he should have any say in ice cream availability.

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