2d ago

Vista to remove bike lane barriers in some areas just months after installing them

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2d ago

Vista to remove bike lane barriers in some areas just months after installing them

www.nbcsandiego.com /news/local/vista-removing-bike-lane-barriers/3864149/

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2d ago

Vista to remove bike lane barriers in some areas just months after installing them

www.nbcsandiego.com /news/local/vista-removing-bike-lane-barriers/3864149/

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In my home city they installed bike lanes on the passenger side of the car parks on the sides of the road between the foot path. Cost a great deal.
Then cyclists kept getting knocked over by passengers opening their doors into cyclists so months later they removed them all.
Government efficiency at its finest
- Where would you have installed them? You’ll get hit by the driver door if you swap the orientation.
  
  You either put a buffer between the parking and the bike lane, such that opening car doors don't intrude into it, or you remove the parking entirely.
  
  If you are going to have parking, then you put the bike lane between the travel lane and parking. Drivers usually will look before blindly opening their door into traffic. Passengers won't usually do that because they're usually along the curb. Drivers that don't check, wouldn't have anyway because they're insane.
  
  At least on the driver side the driver tends to look for traffic before swinging open a door.
  There's no perfect solution without redesigning everything but the passenger side between footpath and car park is the worst place without actual large buffer zone
They did this in my neighborhood as well. They created "safe routes to school" (name of the initiative). Locals complained until the city ripped them back up.
- So ridiculous.
Ah, there's your problem. The hardware is too new, and the OS keeps malfunctioning.
- Haha post stalking?
This bullshit again, the “barriers” were folding markers and parking space bumpers. Local riders mostly disliked them since the bumpers wouldn’t stop any cars anyways and just create less control for everyone involved. If the dumbass city council did it right there wouldn’t have been an issue but they half assed it and got hate from both sides. Good riddance.
- They all look fine to me. Drivers are drifting because they don't pay attention in that area, which is why they were put up in the first place. The complaints are specifically saying "I am a bad driver."
  
  If you think through the situation you’ll realize the barriers are just ramps at normal driving speeds. So a car in the air without any human control makes the entire situation more dangerous than a real barrier or just fold over markers. Removing control from the 3000lb machine is the worst possible outcome from a system like this.
- "I’ve seen drivers drift into and hit the berms, so they’re doing their job. If those weren’t there, drivers would be able to drive over the lane and hit someone," Zuniga said.
  It does seems to be working according to one local.
  Franklin contends bike lane safety features like what were installed in Vista are part of what he calls an “anti-vehicle agenda.”
  Me think mayor is lying about the data, not uncommon for politician.
  
  Yea, thousands of people reached out saying remove them. Really? Thousands? In one area? Thousands of people do not contact their local officials. We'd be a very different country if that happened regularly.

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