Samurai -> Anime

There is something about these cross-eyed anime girls that makes me irrationally angry…

the japanese had been making anime for decades before ww2, the first anime film having been released in 1917.

Japanese Art before the nukes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dream_of_the_Fisherman%27s_Wife

I mean... It was essentially the occupation that did it. The Americans effectively colonised Japan after the war, wiping away the previous culture and going "No, you believe THIS now. You get to keep the Emperor because I'm feeling nice, but if there's a part of your culture I don't like, I'm getting rid of it whether you like it or not".

...Turns out there was quite a lot of Japanese culture at the time that needed wiping out, and the Americans were very effective at doing it.

It's kinda interesting how two different approaches to conquering ex-authoritarian states concluded. In Germany, it was all about collective guilt and confronting the German people about the holocaust. In Japan? Not so much. They kinda just swept all those atrocities under the rug with a "That was the old me! This is the new me, right? I did what you wanted Mr America! I'm on your side now!". Maybe it was the fact that Japan was conquered wholesale by the US and could be put together as a more cohesive front against the Communist Chinese, whereas Germany was split into two and needed to be kept in line to avoid any grumblings about being Communist?

it wasn't the occupation that did it, the first anime was released in 1917. japan had been making anime for decades before ww2.
- Sure if you want to broaden the definition to "anything that has ever been animated in Japan ever" then sure they've been doing anime for decades, but the stuff we would colloquially call 'anime' generally kicked off after the war, inspired by American culture. The signature 'anime' style is directly inspired by Disney cartoons, and it wasn't even called anime until the 60s.

shouldn't it be Kaijus after the nukes

Maybe we should nuke the rest if the world too

This reminds me of the graph showing nuclear fallout from Chernobyl in the air and the presence of Hentai.

Or the crime activity in Chicago vs yoghurt sales in Norway.

Same happened to culture in western countries, it just looks different and feels natural to us.

When was the west ever Nuked
- we nuked ourselves over and over
- Japan was not changed by the nukes.

Just a few days ago, it hit me on some new level that we fucking NUCLEAR BOMBED a country. TWICE.

We are literally the only country that has done that. And it's just sort-of this fun footnote of history. "Fine, maybe that was a whoopsie, but blah blah blah something about land invasion blah blah blah. Our baaaaad!"

In the last days of WW2, the Japanese military were getting children to make sharpened bamboo spears and training those children to attack American soldiers on sight. The elderly and women were told that they should kill themselves before potentially coming under American control.
The Japanese civilian population had been indoctrinated into the belief that western soldiers were absolute monsters who would carry out unspeakable acts on them should they become prisoners (ironic considering the IJA/Ns actions during the conflict).
In the battle of Saipan, hundreds of mothers leapt from cliffs with their babies in their arms to evade capture, men would slit their children's throats and booby trapped the bodies to injure Americans and then themselves fought relentlessly, before mostly killing themselves or being killed to prevent capture.
The level of blood shed at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was unprecedented but it did in fact save untold Japanese civilian and American soldiers' lives.
Crucially, even after the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima Japanese High Command still refused to surrender.
*edit: all you 4edgy5me America Bad commenters really need to do some reading about Japanese atrocities during the Pacific War here are some suggestions:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Massacre
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhejiang-Jiangxi_campaign
- I wonder when, if ever, this narrative will finally be laid to rest. Perhaps, as long as the US military exists as a globe-spanning hegemon, we will always have to hear some version of this story.
  No contemporary historian or political scientist takes this view for granted. It is one of many, and I encourage you to read about more than the wikipedia articles about Japanese atrocities. All militaries commit attocities. This is not the point.
  The argument you offer is that the United States had a moral imperative to invade and occupy the Japanese home islands. What is the justification for this? Why would this have been necessary? Everyone who has seriously studied the history knows that the Soviet Union was preparing to invade Japan and its leadership was preparing to surrender in one form or another. The bombs were dropped because the US wanted to ensure that they were the negotiating party and occupying power.
  The justification to avoid further violence is extremely cynical. Nowhere in the rules of war does it say that the only way to end a conflict is to utterly annihilate your oppnent. That rule was invented by expansionist empires. You can go back to the history of Rome's wars with Greece to see this type of logic (or lack thereof) play out. It is a message. It says that we are not your equal and we will not broker any deals on equal footing. We are your hegemon and we will dictate the terms. And then we'll blame you for any atrocities we commit, and everyone will know that we did what we did in the name of peace and justice.
- The Japanese civilian population had been indoctrinated into the belief that western soldiers were absolute monsters who would carry out unspeakable acts on them
  We nuked them twice after carrying out a campaign of what we cozily referred to as "moral bombing", where we targeted civilian populations to kill the families of soldiers.
  We ARE absolute monsters.
- Bombing Japan = good?
- Crucially, even after the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima Japanese High Command still refused to surrender.
  Hiroshima and Nagasaki were very much the first stages of the Cold War pivot as the USSR declared war on Japan and took Manchuria and Korea from Japanese occupation.
  Imperial Japan had hoped the USSR would arbitrate peace with the Allies as they had not fought or invaded, but the Soviets chose to declare war, sealing their fate.
- Those Palestinian children were going to be used to populate the schools and hospitals so they can't be bombed. Better starve them.
- Yeah and as we do, we fucked up their transition to a democratic state but in the process created a very unique nation
  https://youtu.be/YzRWPGSaKDk
- There are absolutely zero circumistances under which it is acceptable to bomb, let alone nuke, civilians.
- "western soldiers were absolute monsters who would carry out unspeakable acts on them" They were right
- To be fair, the people they were stabbing and running from were about to fucking NUKE THEM. TWICE. So.
France nuclear bombed Algeria lots of times and nobody makes such a big deal of it.
- Maybe because instead of dropping them on cities they dropped them in the Sahara desert?
- TIL.
We are literally the only country
Yeah that's why I hate the nationalist "we" that you're using here. I didn't have shit to do with nuking japan. Zero respect for those terrorists.
It’s called bigger gun diplomacy
I mean tbf, while I do hate how civillians die from it, it was mostly the imperial japanese government's fault.
The japanese soldiers were committing massacress on my homeland (China) and if the US hadn't nuked japan, a lot more people would've died by the hands of those imperialist pigs (the soldiers i mean, I have nothing against japanese civillians). It would've takes months and perhaps years to actually invade japan, all that while japan commits mass rapes, pillaging, looting on my homeland. I mean national pride and "honor" is a strong thing in many East Asian countries, even in current timeline, we still had a lot of Japanese Holdout, without the nukes, Japan would've not surrended for many years and all those years of suffering for all those people in occupied areas by the imperial japanese military around Asia. And even with the first nuke, they didn't fucking surrender until the US had to do it again.
RIP to the innocent civillians at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but its their government's fault for waging this war of destruction.
Deserved
- Still a war crime against civilians.
- I wouldn't say "deserved", civillians don't "deserve" dying in a destructive war waged by their government. It was just a lesser evil.

For what it's worth, SeeU is South Korean, not Japanese.

These kinda memes tend to rely on passive prejudice and ignorance to hit.
Not really worth much, still representative 😅

Japanese mythology was pretty gnarly even before the nukes.

The mythology of every state is inherently violence and anti-human.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

Someone tell trump nuclear weapons are DEI and removing them will get him his Nobel peace prize!

Someone tell him they're underaged girls and he'll go...fuck them? I don't know, I didn't think the analogy through, but he's a pedophile.

Must have hit the pixel limit for the month.

Yeah, sure. Let's forget about Unit 731, genocide policy in China, union with nazi Germany, annual Yasukuni shrine rutuals, Shintoism, sick nationalism, etc.

https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202408/15/WS66be00dea3104e74fddba322.html

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/china-protests-japanese-premier-s-offering-lawmakers-visit-to-controversial-shrine/3545814

https://youtu.be/0Y2wTNTpk0k

https://youtu.be/Z-f9wACfNhQ

https://virtualworkersofamerica.com/japans-obsession-with-nazi-related-anime/

Sir, this is c/memes
- Is this better?
- Sure, and I love the great memes that get posted here. But this one distorts history beyond all measure. Japanese militarism in government circles hasn't gone anywhere, and neither has the desire for revenge. However, the American dropping of atomic bombs on civilians is not a joke either, but an unconcealed genocide. A demonstration of force, first of all, to intimidate opponents from the socialist camp.
Did the "they did a bad thing too!" excuse work with your mother? Because I'm wondering why you think it excuses the bad things America did?
- ....?
  they aren't even talking about America....
  they're saying that it's strange to leave out the history of cruelty when Japan has been one of the most brutal, cruel, and disgusting empires in the world.
  Honestly overlooking that history sounds like something an American would do. are you the seppo here?

my god they mutated, but also they modernized, honestley check the history of any country, usa for example: racists who stole a continent > overconfident military bozos who want to steal continents

No, it's even better that they evolved into another species, although they went a bit overboard. But Japanese girls might taste good though I'm not sure.

- Why are you looking at me like that? Haven't you seen your real self in the mirror?

cute that you erased all of the warcrimes and genocide

fuckin seppos

I think this is meant to be a joke.
Weird how incivility is supposedly not allowed but open racism is no problem.
- Racism and genocide are civil. So it's fine.
  Like how you can tell someobe to kill themselves with clinate, but suggesting they take literally the only action with any hope of working is not allowed.
They showed the finding out
- I wish. There really wasnt much of that, proportionately.