How dare you
How dare you
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A few years ago I was hanging out with an elderly friend of mine and group of tourists walked by and one of threw threw some flowers at my friend's face and called him 'f*g' and just walked away with his friends. Nothing I or anyone could do about it besides just watch and feel humiliated. Another time I was smoking a joint outside (as long as you don't do it near as school or some shit the cops don't care because there is typically a DV going on just around the corner and a needle in every fourth arm in my city) and this dude who probably was a cop back home (he just had that look in his eyes) out of the fucking blue started staring me down. Or tried to because by the time I realized what he was doing his friends where already pulling him away and he was just staring at me with such anger like I had just called him gay or something.
At least where I live there is enough cross over of touristy areas and the really bad areas that I get to watch tourists be made uncomfortable when something happens like a homeless woman squats on the sidewalk and takes a piss waving an empty plastic bag in one hand and screaming.
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Comments in this thread are weirdly one sided. I get the airbnb shit, mass tourism, and all that, but to me it's more a symptom of late stage capitalism.
At which point do you stop becoming a tourist yourself? Has nobody ever been to another city or region? Are you not sometimes a tourist in your own city, region, or country? You always stay home and never go anywhere?
As a Montrealer, am I a nasty tourist for going to Québec City? Should I stick to my own city? Am I a bad tourist for going to another province? Is Vancouver too far or too rich? Is Toronto too far too? Would I be a bad tourist for going to visit and spend a night in Toronto, coming from Montreal? Am I a nasty tourist for going camping in Ontario? Should I stick only to local campings?
Is it only bad when we go to what... 10 km away from our home? 100? 1000? Where is the line? When we need hosting?
I don't really understand the logic of "fuck tourists", unless they just want everyone to stay home and never go anywhere.
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Has nobody ever been to another city or region? Are you not sometimes a tourist in your own city, region, or country? You always stay home and never go anywhere?
I think you'll find a lot of your answers here.
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I think there is certainly an element to travel tourism that has soured a lot of people, but also the world has become a very cynical place to live in. Mass tourism machines like cruise ships have several layers of issues to them, but they are also the economic centers of many marine locations that wouldn't be what they are without them, but that's also sort of the problem with them.
Add into it the cheap air fares, etc... and it opened up the world to the average Joe, who has not the best manners or realistic expectations all the time.
Then, add in the fact there are too damn many of us on this planet that anywhere remotely interesting to visit is packed from dawn to dusk and it gets annoying having to wait for things all the time, especially at home for the 3 months or so people want to see your little stretch of the world.
I get it. I don't agree with it all but I get it. I work in tourism to a degree. We are spread too far, everywhere you go there is more of us.
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Add into it the cheap air fares, etc… and it opened up the world to the average Joe, who has not the best manners or realistic expectations all the time.
Should only rich people should be able to travel? People with more money also have more manners?
add in the fact there are too damn many of us on this planet that anywhere remotely interesting to visit is packed from dawn to dusk and it gets annoying having to wait for things all the time
Just dropping this here: Debunking ‘overpopulation’
There is a football stadium near my home. Those fans should all stay home. I bet some don't even come from my city. They make public transit busy when there are games! Why do we have to share this world with others?!
EDIT: I don't want to seem like I entirely disagree but again, capitalism and mass tourism. Social media is also to blame. Societal hype. But if you think you have to wait everywhere that's "worth" visiting, maybe you can try to spread out. We don't all have to go visit the Eiffel tower or the same national park in Croatia.
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St Lucia seemed generally excited for their tourism. There's a million all inclusive resorts, but youre encouraged to walk the island, visit the locals, shop anywhere. Every single person i met was pleasant and generally excited to speak with me. I never felt unsafe like they warn about at other tourism destinations
Honestly tho, it felt weird.
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Looking at you, Kyoto
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Tourists frequently treat the laws as though they are suggestions instead of the law because they'll be leaving and won't deal with whatever they did.
They drove my mother off the road and the tourists walking nearby just watched and did nothing even though she needed medical help as she was on a bike. Luckily she was fine.
Others would argue with me, a kid, about where shit was.
"How do you get off the island"
"One way on and off, it's the way you entered"
"No, there's a way off here"
"There is not"
"Fuck you" they'd say, to a kid, before driving off and finding no no. Kid is right.
Whenever we traveled we were slammed into us to be polite, follow all local laws, be kind, and I just. It feels like a lot of the shoobies just were raised in a fucking barn.
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I think this is the first time I've heard the word "shoobies" said that wasn't on Rocket Power
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Traditional fishing village, no fishermen can afford to live there anymore because of tourists, air B&Bs and holiday homes pushing the price of houses up.
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Yes. 100%. Every time I see a tourist in SF blocking traffic to take a picture from the top of a hill in the middle of the street, I want them to get hit by a bus.
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I think the problem is not necessarily being a tourist, but egregiously bad tourist behavior.
I have family in, and we're moving to, a tourism hot spot. I honestly don't mind about 95% of the tourists. I even like a lot of them, since the fun ones are great to have around and you can learn about people's lives in so many different places.
The relatively small fraction that acts like total shitheads is what really stands out to me.
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It's not that we live in a direct democracy where the people have a say in the decision to turn the city into a tourism place. More often than not people are born there or moved there long before tourism was so big
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Lived in Banff for 18 years. Some days those tourists are just the fucking worst; feeding animals, littering, having fires anywhere they want. I got real possessive of my home. But the many are decent, outdoor lovers who don’t suck.
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When I went to Banff many years ago, the chipmunks near our lodge were the fattest that I'd ever seen. It was obvious people had been feeding them and they had become dependent on it. Very sad.
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who's economy
I don't know. Who IS economy?
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Oh my god bear is economy how can that be?
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Daily experience in Hawaii. Litterally had a neighbor whose entire ability to survive is based on his wife's business doing wedding photography complaining about "immigrants and tourists"..
Like bruh. You are a kept man and a poorly performing house husband. Maybe just have the grace to accept things as they are?
This is why the Airbnb ban comes up super controversial too. From an unanalyzed/ outside perspective, the narrative "we need homes for locals" makes sense. Then you find out the entire campaign was pushed entirely by the hotel industry lobby in Waikiki (the counsel member who pushed the ban her husband was litterally on the payroll of the hotel lobby). Then the ban went into effect and it killed thousands of small, pop up businesses that had been cleaning, landscaping, maintaining the rentals. And it didn't do one iota of good in terms of reducing or stabilizing rent; if anything, it made things worse. The airbnb' almost all went down one of three tracks: either the owner kept it going illegally (the highest end with wealthiest owners), the owner stopped renting and has left it vacant, or the owner remodeled or sold to a flipper, in which case the house resold for a price quite litterally no locals can afford in rent.
What people don't want to hear about Airbnb bans is that that they significantly hit the non-corporate, local economies far, far harder. It moved tourists out of local neighborhoods and back into Waikiki, meaning that the dollars those tourists might spend on breakfast, grocery, something on the side of the road in some community outside of Honolulu. It further consolidated power into the very already very small number of hands who own all the hotels in Waikiki, while it did basically nothing to stabilize rents.
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In my experience economies based around tourism have much greater inequality, with a few wealthy landowners/business owners raking it in, scumbag tourists throwing their weight around and any non wealthy locals forced into low wage service work and treated like shit in a high cost of living environment. Fuck tourism and fuck tourists.
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As usual, seems he underlying problem is capitalism, not people wanting to visit nice places.
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I think it's entitlement. People feel entitled for some reason? I have no idea why, but they fucking do.
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Its generally the people whom capitalism has rewarded who can afford tourism. And goddamn are they obnoxious about it. Maybe buy a house in your community and spend 4 months there and vote in your elections. Fuckin' scum.
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Yuuup. The people complaining are not the ones that decided that their city should be a tourism dump.
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What do the people who study this for a living say?
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Why do you think the government wants to spend(grant) money to investigate how the proletariats feel about the bourgeois?
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"Thanks for the grant money, tourism industry"
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This. 100%
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Yeah, I'm sure the average person living in a tourist town gets tons of dividends from the extra taxes and capital earnings. It "trickles down" or whatever the kids are calling it these days.
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I always hated the whole “local economy good” schtick. Not everyone in that city personally benefits from the things the local economy is supposed to be dependent on, and to expect them to be stoked when, say, oil is doing good, or lots of tourists are coming around, but only bad things happen to you as a result of it while rich people around you become richer and the wealth gap increases is just irritating.
Also when I worked in a tourist town doing construction there like 9/10 of the tourists were rich, fat, rude Americans that just made a mess of the beautiful town I was in and were super ignorant to everyone around them. I was so glad to be finished that project man.
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Or thanks to tourism you will never be able to afford to live in the area you grew up in and have to move somewhere cheaper.
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Yup, this is happening to me. A whopping 70% (not exaggerating) of houses in my hometown have turned into AirBNB's in the last 10 years!
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Yeah that also sucks ass.
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I hate my customers too. I get it.
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Customer service inspires a certain level of misanthropy
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Can't say I blame them. Tourists can be obnoxious, especially in swarms.
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ring ring KOM OP VAN HET FIETSPAD, KANKERTOERIST
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It's not "a" tourist, it's "a milion" tourists they don't tolerate
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And the messes they leave. If they could pick up after themselves and not treat our service staff like shit, that'd be great.
Edit: spelling
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I recently went to a very.. rich area that’s for sure a destination (there’s a boat tour around the lake to look at mansions, of which there are dozens. It’s really gross. I did not enjoy being there.)
People looked at me funny when I picked up trash that wasn’t mine while walking.. but like there’s a trash can RIGHT THERE! Why wouldn’t I??
But that’s just the vibe in touristy areas.. not my home, not my problem. And that’s gross.
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It really depends. Most people are incredibly friendly, give lots of local tips, are interested in where I'm from. People are genuinely excited and welcoming. But I've also been yelled at—"fucking tourist!"—for stopping on the street to reverse parallel park...an hour south of the border for the numberplate my car had 🤷
I don't think it's much tha you meet people that hate tourists, just that you meet any other asshole that hatess the things that aren't them. So of course they hate tourists too. Good thing the majority of society aren't at all like that.
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No, they all suck 😂
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I grew up in San Diego. I can't afford to live there anymore and had to move halfway across the country because of those tourists. Comic Con would be the worst. Just fucking shambles. And then all the people who feel like Comic Con is their home leave their "home" covered in fucking garbage and piss soaked streets. And then some of those tourists started to enjoy San Diego so much, that they all started moving there with their trust funds and high paying remote jobs. By the time I left 5 years ago, I'd meet people and they'd almost all ask, "Where are you from?" to which I'd reply, "From here" to which they'd reply, "No, but where are you from originally?".
Yep. Fucking tourists.
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Seattle it's standard small talk to ask where someone is from. The almost five years I spent there I only ever met one person who said they were from Seattle
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For Seattle, my experience is that most of the people are there for tech work. Those folks could have been working anywhere from "just came to this city" or "have been working for 10+ years".
There's not that many tourists, the few ones that come visit mostly congregate in pike place and around the space needle.
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While not a city, tourists have ruined the town I work in... It used to be a working town and the surrounding area was where people actually lived. Then the area got popular for rich people to come walk around in the summer... They bought all the housing for their vacation homes/air b&b and the bought up local businesses, turning them into seasonal shops...
Locusts...
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OP after being kicked out of his home so that the landlord can rent it in airbnb: “well at least the economy is booming!”
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Whose*
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I mean they often only want the place they live to be affordable and focused on catering to its residents and not people coming a week or so every year being the focus of the local amenities and that's a fair opinion to have.
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Florida in a nutshell.
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There is still some Old Florida left. But I ain't sharing where...
Snitches get stitches at this point. They ruined everywhere else.
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I’m like this as an american who lives in another country. I get that face when i hear english being spoken because the tourists are usually jackasses.
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Ah, Ive seen you've been to Paris.
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Tourism represents 3.5% of Paris’s economy. I don't think the city would collapse if it stopped overnight.
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Most tourists are pieces of shit. Locals barely tolerate that shit because of money but you can't ask more.
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It would be fine if they would simply drive the speed limit instead of 10 under, and stopped littering.
I don’t understand why those two things simply aren’t a given.
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I visited a town that is in a great spot for cycling trips. The locals painted 🚳 on every sidewalk, hung up posters and give cyclists on sidewalks a talking-to while the main roads often lack even dashed bicycle lanes and feel really dangerous to ride on. At least there is no free car parking.