I wouldn't have believed you either
I wouldn't have believed you either
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Cancel Trump and Vance’s secret service
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In reality the Dems will do none of those things though. They won't nationalize anything because they are neoliberals. They won't fully defund ICE because they want racists to vote for them too. They'll just reduce the budget and maybe stop putting kids in cages. They won't shut down funding for the exec branch because they'll say it is "irresponsible".
More things they'll never do:
- Demilitarise and defund the police
- Provide free public healthcare and education for all
- Raise taxes on billionaires
- Stop mass surveillance programs
- Reform the electoral system to allow proportional representation
- Properly regulate and tax corporations
- Stop providing weapons to their genocidal allies
I'd love to be proved wrong, but I'm not gonna get my hopes up.
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Shutting down funding for the executive program means cutting pretty much every program the government has, if you're not going to reformat it. Which is not implied.
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Founding Fathers, 1776: Democracy is worth fighting and dying for! We must water the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants. We must risk our fortunes and our lives so that our children can live in freedom.
Democrats, 2025: Trump is a dictator destroying democracy, but we can't risk temporarily shutting down government transfer payments in order to stop him.
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They should still do it and bring the country to a standstill if necessary. If extreme measures aren't applicable now, when will they be? It'll cause some short term pain, but it'll get everyone out in the streets.
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The person who posted the tweet in this post who suggested cutting funding was a Republican and now is a independent
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You guys complain for months that democrats don’t fight back. But First Democrat that fights back against Trump, you guys tear them down and bury them. Nobody is worthy to be an ally, that’s why MAGA wrecked you. That’s why half you guys will stay home next election no matter who runs on the Democrat ticket. Last time you said you didn’t want the senile old man but the moment they switched to the educated black woman you guys were like “no not that!”
MAGA unifies and the left splinters and lights among itself
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- This is a non-sequitur, the guy in the post is a republican supposedly
- A guy posting troll tweets while clearing homeless encampments is not "fighting trump"
- Active participants in genocide are not allowed to be allies, maga are happy to support genocide.
- If theres a fake primary or they annoint someone years before and expect voters to fall in line, youre right, nobody will vote for them
- Again, if you bait and switch the people, you dont hold a primary, and you wait until there's no chance of having one to finally say "youre right, hes too old, here's someone nobody asked for" who then proceeds to drop every popular position she ever publicly had, YOU DESERVE TO FUCKING LOSE.
- Democrats, the dnc, the party proper, are the ones refusing to support "democrats" who win elections, not voters. Zohran and the Minnesota guy are both barely left and the national party is basically funding their opposition.
If you're getting paid by that Brian Tyler Cohen darkmoney group I wouldn't be surprised, they only hire the most shit tier libs.
Why dont you confront your party leadership and hold them accountable for forcing trump back into office? You'd rather yell at principled voters, who made extremely clear what they absolutely would not accept for years in advance, than the party that chose to try winning the election purely on republicans voting for them.
All I'm saying, you better be getting paid for this. Having these opinions for free would be very embarrassing. Congrats on the check tho, $250/mo can really make a difference.
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Oh shit, I didn't know I could get $250/mo to post on lemmy. Where do I sign up?
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correct analysis. Absolutely go down to their level. Weirdly enough, you will even take some of their voters away with that. Some of them don't care that much about the words, just the way they are spoken.
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I always hated that democrats fight with one arm tied behind their back because of decorum, while the republicans use knives and bazookas. The next non Republican president needs to fuck these guys the way they fuck Americans
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Nationalising Starlink and Spacex are a great idea, why not Tesla as well? It’s already HEAVILY propped up by government spending. Do it at gunpoint so we don’t have to pay Elon anything at all
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Isn't the correct process to make a flippant post offering to buy the whole thing on twitter ?
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if whoever is in charge next in the US does not burn down the white house as a symbol of starting over, I will be disappointed
besides, think of all the Russian spy equipment that's probably installed in there now
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Anything short of a full overhaul of every IT system that DOGE every glanced at is 100% necessary.
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Leave the white house. Burn down Mar a Lago
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based based based Fall of America will save the world. It wont be easy tho
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i don't think you can take the stink out without burning it down anyway
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After scraping all the gold
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You mean the gold spraypainted wall sconces?
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I don't think that will be the moment that america starts caring about releasing toxic fumes by burning paint
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There is nothing in the middle of the road but yellow lines and dead armadillos
Based based based based based
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As a foreigner, what does this metaphor mean? It sounds to me like "And at the end of the day... is night" kind of things, but what does it replace?
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It means there is no future in centrism. The living armadillos choose a side. Those that dither will be hit by cars. On United States roads, yellow lines signify lane divisions between cars traveling in opposite directions.
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Apparently it's a book title of the same name. "A book of political subversion"
There's nothing in the middle of the road but yellow stripes and dead armadillos Book by Jim Hightower
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Sometimes, I feel regret that Romney didn't beat Obama. Not because Romney would have been a better president. Just because of the timing, if Romney had won, then maybe Trump would never have become president, or at least he'd have been president later. Romney's still a Republican, so it would have sucked, but Trump is fucking poison.
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Now imagine how different our country would be if Gore won...
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"If we counted Gore's win"
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With all the nonsense about "fiscal conservatives", people forget that the last administration to balance the budget was Clinton/Gore - and not only was the budget balanced, it actually had a fucking surplus. One of the big debate points going into the 2000 election cycle was what to do with this surplus. Naturally enough the surplus went towards tax cuts for the rich and now we're fucking $35 trillion dollars in debt.
Someone will weigh in here with "deficits don't matter" and "the government can just print money if it needs it".
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I’ve always said this was the start of our descend into the hellscape that we’re currently stewing in. Having Gore's president, would have gotten strong internet/telecoms and environmental guardrails/legislation passed. At a time when we really needed to start addressing those things. Amongst many other things..
5 SCOTUS fucktards are responsible for where we are today. that’s my take at least.
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That's an interesting thought... I can't help but feel like it would have just delayed an inevitable outcome though, potentially allowing the underlying political movement even more time to grow and fester. It's unknowable, but I feel like we'll be pondering questions like that for a long time.
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Typical liberal thinking. Trump is just byproduct of neoliberal, genocidal war mongering state of america. If not Trump, someone else wouldve come. You should be glad he didnt came sooner and I am sure far far worse times are yet to come.
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Because much of what's happening right now is a direct, racist reaction to the US having the gall to elect a black man president.
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Its also a reaction to the Hope and Change candidate bailing out the banks who just stole millions of homes, bombed a dozen countries, sending the natl guard to shut down protests in furgison, both-sides a cop arresting a man in his own yard, deporting more people than W or Trump, giving us means-tested subsidies for health insurance.
Obama disillusioned a generation with politics, hence why so many people stayed home in 2016. Biden did the same shit, and Newsom will do it again if given a chance.
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That's exactly what needs to be done. For starters.
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The current MAGA Republicans make neoconservatives look like angels. The neoconservatives are lesser evil, but it doesn't exonerate them from the Bush-era warcrimes.
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Remember when the new Democratic President prosecuted the Bush-era war crimes?
Me neither.
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i've heard the term "neoliberal", but not the term "neoconservative" before. mind explaining what that refers to?
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Most of the neo-cons transformed into MAGA
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Neo-cons are socially conservative politicians who have adopted the neo-liberal economic model
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By dictionary definition, that's all neoliberal. Most Democrats AND Republicans from the past 50-70 years are neoliberal, and even Trumpism is steeped in neoliberalism.
At it's core, it is a trust that the "invisible hand" of the free market will keep the ship of society afloat. As though the body commence is some kind of organically-organized supercomputer that seeks to optimize for global prosperity. It looks to unchain the capitalist machine in the same way AI bros seek to unchain their gpt waifu so we can all singularity.
To this end, when looking for a neoliberal, you're looking for someone who wants to privatize public services then deregulate and cut taxes for businesses. So despite it having "liberal" in the name, it is a thought movement led by conservatives. Like, Ronald Reagan is one of its staunchest champions.
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For neocon think Bush, Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, that whole gang.
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Day 1 should be to Fire everyone even remotely related to trump. Then take trumps entire cabinet to a CIA black site. Then start going after the treasonous media figures. Then day 2 you can start fixing things.
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He said when they take the house. In that hypothetical, they would still be moderately impotent with regards to what you describe, they'd need 2/3 of Senate too.
This is the most optimistic plausible scenario for 2027, not 2029.
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They'll be working in the same building as the Senate and people fall down the stairs there all the time with no questions asked.
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The good news is that the Senate is vulnerable to flipping. 22 of the 35 seats up for election are currently held by Republicans, and only 13 by Democrats. Dems only need 4 seats to flip the Senate, and Senate races aren't vulnerable to gerrymandering.
The bad news is that this is the Senate class that was elected in 2020, so the Republicans up for election aren't extremely vulnerable since they all survived a fairly blue election cycle.
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If they had the WH, Who would stop them?
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Starlink shouldn't exist. it's unnecessary , we have better options... make internet a utility and force the companies we already gave millions to, to actually modernize infostructure and bring internet to undeserved locations that still have 56k
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Running fiber to low density areas is expensive but there's no way it can be as expensive as launching all those satellites.
Even if it is, the ROI has got to be way worse for satellites.
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Starlink should 100% exist in some form or another, but it replacing terrestrial landline internet is madness. We can and should absolutely do both things.
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Starlink should have been a global effort, so that we didn't end up with dozens of private companies all vying to put thousands of satellites into orbit.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_debris
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome
I disagree that we should haphazardly be putting more stuff into space than needed... when we have alternatives...
Just because we can doesn't mean we should...
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What's better than Starlink in the boonies?
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If you live somewhere that has electricity coming from the energy grid then by default should also have Internet coming to your house as well. By defining the internet as a utility and treating it like one you would get more funding to build out the network. Something similar happened with phone lines way back in the day if I'm not mistaken.
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Posting from my fiber-to-the-home connection in rural bumfuck Japan presently for no particular reason.
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Proper infrastructure development to bring them fiber?
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There is a lot of controversy around this ... and recently trump changed it to allow things like starlink... make of that what you will
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They’re not going to do shit
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They won't though 🥲
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How is he allowed to remove the secret service protection from the former vice president?
What?
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The former VP actually only gets 6 months of protection by default. Beyond that it needs to be actively extended, which Trump didn't do.
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my understanding was that biden did extend it for a further year. trump actively cancelled that.
it wasnt just him letting it lapse, it was a move of spite
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To be more accurate, he actively cancelled an extension granted by a previous executive order.
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Thank you
I’m surprised by the 6 months thing
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There was an order in the previous administration to extend protection for extra time. This administration just cancelled the extension.
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This is the thing that has you dumbfounded you? The how is he...? Questions go much deeper.
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Who uses Twitter anymore that isn't a Nazi?
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Nazism is sadly a spectrum, and you can appeal to those undecided in the middle by hopping onto their stage
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This “Nazi is a spectrum” nonsense is why you guys refused to have allies and got destroyed by maga. It’s why when anyone even slightly right or even left of you, has a slightly differing opinion, you call them nazis. You cheapen and confuse the situation by throwing everyone under the Nazi bus
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Nazism is sadly a spectrum
No it's not.
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this is the first time that i've ever heard this and it's kinda hilarious.
Nazism is [...] a spectrum
lol, just L.O.L. do you want a little genocide with your 3pm tea or a bit more? How many brown dead children do there have to be to make it worthwhile? (/s)
i think that you might have a point, but you really gotta work on your verbalization and presentation. saying "nazism is a spectrum" is not gonna resonate with anyone.
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Perhaps, but they lost the right for humanization if they are stripping it from others.
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What?
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Their stage where if you're good enough at appealing to centrists, they'll just ban you or lower your post visibility. Their stage where the algorithm can be manipulated to show centrists only your worst posts.
Their stage that dies if enough sensible movers leave that the sheep see only vileness from evil movers.
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I would!
Rambling on Twitter makes money. And politicians have finally figured out they can get in on the rage influencer pie, too.
It’s super effective.
Ugh, I can’t wait for Twitter to enshittify so much it withers away.
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Reissue all US currency and people are only able to change to the new real currency $100k a day over the course of a year, after that it all becomes void. And you need to actually go to the bank and sign a slip each time.
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Could they even do any of that with just the House? They won't do it anyway, but could they?
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At this point it doesn't even really matter, it's just a question of whether anyone would step up to stop them. "The Rules" in general have already been well and truly trod upon and I'm not sure we make it out the other side of this without some restructuring of them.
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Obviously with the Senate they can cut any budget/pass any law.
On their own the house can cut funding eventually. Push comes to shove, the house needs to vote for spending. They either pass a budget with the cuts, or the government shuts down.
There really isn't a mechanism for the house that nationalize anything without the support of the Senate that I'm aware of. The house can call the vote day one to nationalize, but it's symbolic without a legit path on the Senate
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Iirc any resolution to that extent would likely have to pass through both levels of Congress. But, if enough seats flip in both chambers next year, it could certainly happen. Checks and balances and whatnot.
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💯💯💯
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I think a problem the Democratic Party is facing is that, today, few believe they will
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No, the problem the Democratic Party is facing is that they won't.
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That is not their problem, it is ours.
Their problem is the multiple PR disasters which will probably lower campaign contributions.
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So, that takes Starlink & S X away from:
Musk = POS Nazi. ..?
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Nice Hightower reference
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Nationalize the assets of every billionaire who bought a cabinet position to destroy the government agencies that were relating their businesses. 100% tax on wealth over $100 million. Reform the judiciary. Every citizen has the absolute right to vote with equal access to the ballot box. Eliminate the electoral college. Electoral boundaries drawn by an independent, non-partisan agency. All electoral boundaries must be a maximum five sides polygon except where they follow a state border. Ban private schools and fully fund science and fact based public education. Eliminate health insurance companies and nationalize healthcare. No company may pay bonuses or dividends unless every employee earns a living wage with full benefits. Make companies pay the same wages and benefits to part time employees that they do full time employees. Executive wages must be tied to the average wage of employees and the lowest wage paid to any employee (including contractors and employees of suppliers.) Dissolve media conglomerates and ban misinformation presented as news. Free speech does not include hate speech. Your religious rights and at the end of your nose. You have no say in what other people do with their bodies. What happens in other people's bedrooms is none of your business. Make churches pay taxes like every other business. Make the national minimum wage a living wage. Make companies responsible for their pollution and recycling their products. Absolute right to repair. Stop companies from telling you what you can do with devices you own. GDPR for all! Provide mandatory anti-conspiratorial thinking training for everyone. Teach rational thought from day 1 in kindergarten through graduate school.