Optics
Optics
"American Gen Z" just for meme continuity
48 comments
-
-
I guess the difference is which side is supported by army
-
I read that they made sure everyone was out of the building first. Not exactly the reckless violence that this post implies. It was humane and productive as far as I can see. I am not really sure killing Charlie Kirk will help things in the long run. (and no I'm not saying he wasn't a huge piece of shit)
-
I am not really sure killing Charlie Kirk will help things in the long run.
You say that as if non-fascists had any choice in the matter. The even-more-extreme fascist who did it is directly opposed to "helping things" in the way you or I understand the term.
-
Unfortunately it probably won't do anything, other than remind us that fascist infighting is still alive and well.
Conservative talking heads are hydras. One of the absolute worst for a long time was Rush Limbaugh. When he died, we celebrated, but he was just replaced by three more sycophant conservative heads.
-
-
alt text: Two column meme.
American Gen Z
"Noo you can't celebrate a Nazi's death, that makes you just as bad as the Nazi! We must debate fascism in the marketplace of ideas! Stoning gays, lynching trans people and making kids watch public executions was just his opinion. Think of how bad this makes the left look!"
Nepali Gen Z
Burns down parliament and overthrows corrupt government
-
Burns down parliament and overthrows corrupt government
That totally never ended up totalitarian
-
I always see this argument, but honestly - if the government is already corrupt, what else can you do to change things? Sure it can go wrong, but these things happen when enough people see no other options for things to even have a chance to get better
-
It's gone both ways historically.
-
-
-
I know you said just for meme continuity, but this sentiment seems to be there opposite of what US Gen Z actually thinks. Really it's the crocodile tears of controlled opposition in mainstream media.
-
People can think a lot of things. The difference is whether these thoughts are distilled into actions. Because they sure as heck was in Nepal.
-
-
"Mom, Dad! I just found out I'm 90% Napali!"
-
Its exceedingly obvious if a group of people got together and purged the government not a single person in America would care more than making a tik tok video saying they are really mad about it.
-
J6. But if they do less than that it will be an outrage!
-
-
Too busy posting about Newsom's Trump memes on lemmy because that's definitely the way to fight Trump lol.
Still, lets not forget the Nepalese military "accepted" the interim PM meaning they likely allowed the uprising to occur in the first place because they want to cycle the civilian government.
Many 3rd world country civilian governments are completely worthless because they simply serve as the public scapegoat for the military to use. They magically gain a sense of independence from the alleged chain of command to the PM/President until the new party comes into the government. Let them do some stuff for some time and then rinse and repeat with the next generation uprising.
-
Yeah, toppling one of the most powerful empires in the world with one of the largest armies in the world is as easy as toppling a 3rd world country that has a severely weakened government.
Speaking of burning down parliaments, look up Reichstag fire and its consequences
-
Nazi this, nazi that. Everyone's nazi these days. I'm tired of it
-
Cool. I’m tired of hearing people talk about how my basic human rights should be stripped from me, and I should possibly be institutionalized against my will or killed. Yours sounds bad too, though.
-
Fuck the republican party and fuck the cartoonishly undemocratic system of the USA, but the former is not fascist by definition!
-
-
then help us get rid of the fascists
-
I am also tired of all these Nazis
-
Pro tip, find and listen to the plethora of historians and other experts on the classification and comparison.
Spoilers, MAGA keep following both the nazi and classic cold war Russian tactics for manipulation.
A lot.
Like, constantly. There are also enablers preventing opposition from gaining any ground.
Are they literal clones of Nazis? No, that's impossible in a changing environment. That being said, they sure like to follow the nazi playbook in a way that sets alarms off in a way that would be pretty stupid to not have issues with.
At this point it's "you can't call them fascist/nazi until we are post-gas chamber," and even then you will get people saying it's not the same, for some stupidly specific yet mostly irrelevant differences.
So when the historians all cry "this is some nazi shit," it might be disingenuous to compare it to more frivolous accusations.
Also there are a lot more valid historical comparisons, because the Nazis aren't the only ones to do this shit, but they are a good example of the general shape.
edit: emphasis on cold war russian tactics and forward. putin's russia is not a free democracy, nor a social democratic state. it's more about how you interact with the oligarchy and fuck over all the out-groups that are convenient for your authoritarian rhetoric.
also nazi's were textbook authoritarians. my guy, open any textbook ever on fascism, or just got to the wiki
first line "Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement that rose to prominence in early-20th-century Europe.[1][2][3] " next to a picture of hitler.
some of these takes gotta be fakes.
-
Everytime I see this I feel like it comes from a highschool dropout who thinks they have it worse or were born with a silver spoon in their mouth. Fuck off. I'm not sorry if the people pointing out the writing on the wall annoys you.
-
How about this then, "Useless fuck face fascist' that work for you?
-
Calling things cartoonishly evil doesn’t have the same gravitas, despite being more definitionally accurate
-
48 comments
So while everyone keeps playing into this civil war shit nobody is noticing the same day Kirk was assassinated, Democrats in the Senate called for an investigation into links between big banks like JP Morgan and Epstein (including the fact that Epstein introduced Netenyahu to executives at JP Morgan), but Republicans blocked the release of the files again.
https://democrats-financialservices.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=413784
I have no idea what point you are trying to make that you think makes civil war less of an option with your comment.
That it's republicans trying to distract and control the narrative once again
It's not really much of an option anyway. The actual civil war was fought along a genuine difference - industrial wage-labor in the north vs. the south's (primarily agrarian) owning people as property. The Culture Game may make it seem like there's a huge divide, but compared against the history it is peanuts (especially if you ignore what people think and look only at what they do).