Almost 80% of voters believe America is ‘in political crisis,’ poll shows

Conversely, 20% of voters declared legally brain dead.

Political crisis?!? They just transitioned from a democracy to a monarchist authoritarian regime.

What the heck do the other 20% think? All is fine? Or are they just off-grid for months?

TIL 20% of Americans live in a persistent vegetative state.

For reference, only 84% of Americans believe the Earth is round. . That this statement has about as much agreement is not surprising, but it's worth keeping in mind that 15%-20% of people are going to disagree with literally any statement you poll them on, even basic facts.

Didn't Universal Background Checks have like 91% support after Sandy Hook?
I remember it because I'd never seen anything poll so high in the US.
Clears that up.

Well. It is.

The funny thing is yes 80% may say that we are in a political crisis. But it depends on which side of the aisle you're on as far as what you consider that political crisis to be. Well yes we may agree there is a political crisis there are many that are calling for stricter controls in many of us that are calling for the leaders to be given the French treatment.

An entirely self created one

The beloved Patriot Act 20 years later.
Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

That’s not even an opinion anymore, it’s just an accurate description of events in the country

Except a third or more of that 80% thinks the crisis is the "violent radical left antifa superpredators."
- No they don’t.
  They pretend that they believe this because it allows them to hurt you.
  And you’re letting them.
- I think the one thing both sides are fully aware of, we live in vastly different realities.
- Thy aren’t thinking they’re being told. And they ain’t questioning it
- Superduper predators, raawr

As designed by the GOP, for the GOP. They are the terrorist organization Donald trump is so worried about, but he keeps mixing it up and calling them "the radical left."

The dementia is spreading across the entire GOP base. They all forgot what being a conservative was.

I am surrounded by engineers and scientists.. more than half of them dont vote beacause " this does not affect me". Frustrates me so much. This are educated people, relatively speaking. Maybe because they are still well-off economically? I don't know. I don't understand how they are so uninterested.

I'm not saying this is always the case, but if a coworker or someone i know in a professional context asks me a political question I will say I have no strong opinions despite the opposite being very very true. Others may say this to strangers or to people who aren't their close personal friends.
The engineers and scientists in my neck of the woods are very concerned about the shit that's going on. The unionized floor techs on the other hand lean far more favorably to the orange dolt.
- Do you work at a shooting yourself in the foot factory or something? How the fuck could you be in a union and support Donald fucking trump or anyone associated with him?
Show them this video: https://youtu.be/Ame0j8jbMY4
Then tell them voting is exactly the same as discussing politics.
- They'll just show you this https://youtu.be/aPW8AaOuvDs

The only way out is;

Landslide against Republicans for 2026 MidTerms.
Landslide agains Republicans in 2028; to the point where they no longer exist.
New progressive Democratic Party.
Landslide against Right-Wing Democrats in 2030 Midterms
Landslide against Right-Wing Democrats in 2032.

That's assuming that America is going to have free and fair elections (if at all) ever again.
- I admit that that is a pretty big assumption, but I do have faith in the people.
  It may be misplaced faith.
Famously, the way out of fascism has not been through democratic means. Fascist dictators tend to rig the democratic process to the point where it is obviously no longer democratic. The US has been seeing this since the founding of the country (electoral college, gerrymandering, voter suppression, 3/5ths compromise, lack of any federal direct ballot initiatives, mass propaganda campaigns like the Red Scare, etc.), but has only accelerated as more time has gone on, but more extreme contemporary examples would be countries like Russia, North Korea, or China.
The US also has a two party state due to the first past the post voting system that only accelerates this process faster, as the two parties are both corporate parties, and no party represents the will of the workers/lower classes.
Capitalists and fascists alike will do anything and everything in their power to both maintain and expand their power. The only exceptions are when there are mass, well-organized protests/uprisings/boycotts, but the corporations/the state also controls the media and now also the majority of the Internets' communication services when "Web 2.0" started replacing less centralized services, making mass organization much more difficult.
- Not to make light of your great rundown here, but to attempt to maybe put this in more palateable terms for normies:
  You gotta fight...
  ....for your right...
  ... to paaaaaartttttyyyyyyy!
- This is interesting. Do you know how to get out of the corpo fascist death spiral?
- Don't get me wrong: We are indeed fucked beyond repair.
  However, we have a dying fascist autocratic president who is trying to achieve dictatorship. We don't have a dictator quite yet. And chances are he'll be dead before he achieves that goal.
  We'll just become a rightwing hellhole as Vance more competently consolidates power for capital than Trump could dream of. And then the Democrats will probably barely win the presidency but it wont matter because they probably wont have the Senate, they definitely wont have the courts, and maybe even not have a majority in the House with all the gerrymandering. Nothing will get done and we'll rot and liberals and socialists will be at each other's throats too much over Trump's previous repeated victories to pull anything together to meaningfully fight back.
It's definitely not going to be that easy
- And even if it were, we definitely aren't going to get all those things.
Fiction writing is an art.
The ratchet effect will ensure #3-5 never happen. I think we need to forget about #1-2 and go for #3 first and start treating 1/4 and 2/5 as the same.
- Even if 1 happened, the tilt in politics would ensure that 2 doesnt happen. Every time we get a step like 1, the right wing pivots to blaming democrats for any legitimate (and plenty of illegitimate) grievances. Which is obviously lapped up by the ignorant morons and hands power back to the republicans. Over and over again this happens. We get a Clinton, then comes a Bush. We get an Obama, then comes a Trump. We get a Biden, then comes another Trump. Its just the same cycle of braindead stupidity over and over again.
  Even if Democrats sweep the midterms, or somehow by a miracle get back the presidency after that, then ultimately power will be handed back to the Republicans in the following terms. The time to prevent any of this was when Democrats had full control of the government over ten years ago. But hindsight is 20/20 I suppose, and decorum was the flavor of the day. I doubt anyone imagined that established political decorum would be thrown out the window to the extent that it has been
the only way out is voting
🤡
- I mean i haven't seen you start the armed insurrection yet

Political Crisis created by billionaires.

https://archive.org/details/darkmoneyhiddenh0000maye_k2o0

By billionaires, by trump, by right wing extremists, by religious idiots, by general idiots, by...
- By fascists. Don't forget them they are the same people you are talking about.

Yet 50% of the 80% won't actually vote.

It's 80% of voters so they already took 1/3 of the country out.
- that's too generous, this is closer to 3/4 of the country out

Cooked, deepfried.

On July 4, 2026, the ~~US Army~~ [REDACTED]

On July 4, 2026, nothing happened in Lafayette Square, Washington D.C. Absolutely zero university students died. Its was just a routine military parade with tanks. Anyone spreading false rumors is a foreign agent ANTIFA attempting to destablize our big beautiful democracy, and will therefore be charged with "Subversion of State Power". GOD BLESS 'MURICA 👊🇺🇸🔥

It’s definitely frightening how one “influencer” being killed seems to have made things worse. They not only didn’t learn from the consequences of stoking the flames of divisiveness, but keep piling on the fuel. How does it not hit them that their own actions are what is causing this crisis, and how do they not think it might have gone too far? How are they so cynically exploiting the situation without the slightest hint of awareness that “this could be me next”?

Kirk was the excuse they pounced on - the escalation was coming regardless.

The voters created this mess. The real argument should be for education.

The voters did what they were supposed to do: vote.
The fact that the system of democracy has been slowly eroded over time and never updated with new knowledge is the failing of Congress.
Mass manipulation by social media is why we are where we are. Stupid voters have been around for all of democracy.
Critical thinking skills and being able to form your own opinion and back it up with evidence should be taught in grade school. Most people don't get an introduction to this until college.
- I'd be pretty happy if elementary logic was a high school requirement.
I mean, half of voters did. But I agree about education

"People in a burning house believe there might be a fire inside their house"

Bit late, but good.

I wonder what conclusions they will draw from it though?

That the other side is to blame. So no, it's not good. This is actually a worse situation.
- Yeah this is my take away. If enough people think the political crisis is the other political party where does that actually get you because that's what this means to me.

The entire world is fucked and pickering its butthole with ww3 about to start

No, really?

Of voters. If that's the only group that gives a shit we're doomed.

Well you people voted for it, or rather, didn't bother to vote to avoid it.

You've got a bunch of weasels in the hen house. Everyone's eggs are at risk

People vs politicians. The people need to clean house.

What should we try doing differently?
- Ranked. Fucking. Choice. Voting.
- Step one is to purge neoliberals from the Democratic party. It needed to be done about ten years ago though, but I guess now is the second best time.
- The states should work together to run special elections to replace everyone in house, senate, courts and then president. Any president level decisions shall be approved by the states of the people till someone is elected…… in a very broad explanation.

And not one of them can agree on why.

The US or all of America? The US snobs keep writing "America" as if the US is the only thing that consists of America.

Hmmm. Who are you again?
It's just colloquialism, comrade, it's not that deep. It's not as though Canada calls themselves Canada of America, and Mexico is already the United States of Mexico. No other American country even have the continents in their name, northern or southern.
This is such a dumb argument. You know who and what people talk about. Fucking no one is talking about "the Americas" on a regular basis. No one.
- Just say US then. If the US is so great and so proud, say US. Latin America exists. It ain't not there.
So yeah there's a difference obviously, and I live in the US so people around me always use it that way.
But when I see somebody in European media refer to the American people, or some country getting aid and/or bombed by "America" or "the Americans" it is almost certainly about the USA.
I think there are similarities with other regions if not single countries. Hopefully this isn't an American thing too, but when somebody refers to Asian people it often means East Asian, and not somebody from Saudia Arabia or northern Russia.
- I've noticed recently that our European family and friends have this pattern where they'll call it America or the USA when they're saying something positive or hopeful about the country, but then they'll say "the States" or "the US" when being critical or showing concern. It's very interesting and I wonder how common that is.

Y a y make america great!

That many stupid people. Wow.