Gemini : How to wire a plug
Gemini : How to wire a plug
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For people enjoying LLMs being shit at everything, the Vagina Museum has a whole series of them failing at making pictures about pregnancy:
https://masto.ai/@vagina_museum
I think this was the first one:
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This is fucking fantastic.
Just as a PSA, black wire to brass screw, white wire to silver screw, bare or green wire to screw on rounded prong. Also, black wire is hot, white is neutral, green is ground.
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As another PSA, if you reply on comments like this to go about wiring anything electrical, do yourself a favor and call a professional.
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I mean, replacing a plug on a cord is like a basic human thing that most people should be able to do. A one minute video will show you how.
If you can't figure out how to change out a plug, you probably can't adult.
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In the US*
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Except when white is hot for odd light switch layouts. (Which should be wrapped in black tape, but you know Shady DYI or I Know a Guy electricians.)
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DO NOT TRUST ANY AI TECHNICAL DRAWING!
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DO NOT TRUST ANY AI
TECHNICAL DRAWINGFTFY
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There been so much gaslighting I keep thinking I'm missing something as I keep doing the mandatory AI usage from work and largely throwing away the results. Yet I keep repeatedly hear people hush about how great it is.
Last week I finally had something that I thought would be right up it's alley: a fairly milquetoast program that needed to be ported from one language to another. It generated the ugliest unmaintainable code I could imagine. I went to execute the test suite and it failed every single one. The code was ugly, hard to follow, failed to important a number of sanity checks, kept repeating common code without factoring, making up calls that didn't exist. In trying to salvage it, I decided to ask it to implement a super simple check that should have been a one liner and it suggested splatting over a hundred lines of code all over the file to randomly mess with imaginary end points for no apparent reason and still falling to just check the length of the array I told it to.
Meanwhile people at my company who don't even commit any code are writing on internal blogs about how transformative it is, how much it makes their coding better (that they didn't even do) and executives are commenting their vision and intelligence and promoting them...
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“Never trust a computer you can’t throw out a window” - Steve Wozniak
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It was legit a little scary how long I stared at this diagram in utter bewilderment.
It's 2025 and the tech bros have made it where I can't believe my own lying eyes.
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I showed this to my electrician dad. He had a chuckle.
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I just realized I have no idea how electeicity works 💀
(Magic particles goes zzzzzzzap)
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My understanding is not much better. It’s send electrons across wire.
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Waves flow like water along invisible rivers in the air. So, light doesn't radiate from the sun so much as its like water flowing down a sinkhole, except in reverse, and without a spiral.
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It's not even that! The electrons don't even move particularly much. The energy is moved by the E/M field created around the circuit, which is even more wild and mind bending.
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This won’t kill anybody. It’s not wired to anything but a ground wire.
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That ground wire goes directly to the metal casing of the appliance.
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This isn't the outlet, it's the plug that goes into the outlet. Presuming you had it would fit into (the plugs are oriented wrong), it would be about as safe as shoving a fork in instead.
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I understand what it is. But any normal GFCI would trip before it could cause any harm to anything. Even a normal breaker would trip before it created a problem, well other than sparks and likely fire. Since this is covered unlike a bare fork it is moderately safer and would not allow current through the body.
It’s irrelevant though as the image is just stupid. If you can’t immediately see that you should never be allowed near anything electrical.
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Maybe the point is rather "It generates random bullshit diagrams and if you rely on them, things will go wrong". This one might not be lethal, but some other design it produces might.
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100%. I was just talking about this one image not AI in general.
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I asked llms to help me with world building projects and to make some artwork (technical drawings) and boy howdy did they fail...
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Neutral is also wired to live. Isn't that a short circuit?
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The live prong is connected to ground. The drawing is missing an actual live wire. The neutral is bonded to ground at the electrical box which means the neutral wire is at approximately the same potential as ground although the further from the box the less so. Shorting neutral to ground can induce electrical flow.
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The neutral is hot but it's also grounded, electricity should take the path to the ground instead of doing anything meaningful on the neutral. You could probably measure a bit of current but not 220.
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The next diagram it hallucinates may be lethal though.
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For reference / non electrical engineers / visual learners:
https://engineerfix.com/electrical/plugs/how-to-wire-a-us-plug/
NA 2 Prong, Type A
NA 3 Prong, Type B
'Earth' = Ground = the 3rd, round prong
You can maybe see the AI has kinda sorta merged elements from both of these.
The main problem is that uh... notice how in these real diagrams none of the lines are looped into each other, they are 2 or 3 distinct lines that feed into whatever is being plugged in...
... whereas in the AI diagram... it just forms a continuous loop.
Which... basically means that what the AI labels as 'neutral' and 'ground'... aren't.
Doing that would instantly cause a short cicruit and potentially immediately start a or multiple fires, trip circuit breakers, etc, depending on the voltage/amperage avalaible to the outlet this AI 'death-plug' ie connected to, and how long it takes the circuit breaker to trip.
... thats my layman understanding, corrections from any actual EEs would be appreciated if I've mucked something up.
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Just a heads up, those diagrams are also insufficient on their own. They don’t indicate which line goes to the wide blade and which goes to the narrow blade on the plug. Getting that backwards on some devices can cause switching and fusing to be on the wrong line and defeat certain circuit and safety protections.
Much as I encourage people to fix their own things, wiring AC mains connections is one of those “if you have to ask, you probably shouldn’t” kind of things.
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Thank you, those are very good points to add!
I managed to be busy nearly all day, glad other people have upvoted your addendum.
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No this one is safe. It's specifically designed to power geomantic devices, not electrical ones.
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Everytime someone ask AI for wiring diagram, Medhi's mom will go slap them with a slipper.
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Unrelated question, why is this post a full fucking screenshot of some dude’s phone uncropped?
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Cropping is a lost art that was under appreciated in its time. Oddly, I see it done less even though it’s become substantially easier to do over time, with the tools often built into whatever took the screenshot.
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It's almost as though an AI designed to make pictures of kittens with boobs has no understanding of how electricity works.
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No you won't, you won't be able to plug that one in
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Deleted, replied to the wrong comment.
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What the actual fuck. The prongs aren't even oriented correctly. And the 'live' wire is just tied to ground.
So glad we're burning down the rainforests for this.
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Pardon my ignorance but could someone explain this and how it's supposed to look like?
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White, black, and green coming up the wire. Black to black, white to white, green to ground (not applicable with this type of plug). As wired it would flip the circuit breaker virtually instantly but, if you are really lucky, electrocute you or start a fire with that extra green cord sticking out.
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https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=wiring+a+plug&ia=images&iax=images
you can more or less see the differences there. Outlets (typically) have the colors in the op's picture, plugs are often different. Some of the ideas are expressed in the pic, like the clamps, while others seem to be a weird skewing of outlets and plugs, and some are obviously just bizarre (read, idiotic for a person with any brainpower) like the white-to-black-to-green pathing.
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=D
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You will trip a breaker or 2. But you won't die. This is an exaggeration. Nevermind it wouldn't even fit a plug? If I ask it to do the same, it creates the following schematic.
https://g.co/gemini/share/0e1d197c002b
Not saying you should use any LLM to create something critical.
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That's a text response, this post is about image generation. Gemini is okay at finding stuff on google to show you, it's basically like a 'Let me Google that for you' machine. The problem is when you ask it to make something new.
Behold, the image response I got using your prompt:
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You're in trouble if you also have a broken neutral somewhere.
But yes, the most likely outcome is breaker goes pop.
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color-coded screws? wtf
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For what it's worth, the terminal screws on US outlets and replacement plugs usually actually are color coded. The screws for the hot (black) wire are gold or brass, and the screws for the neutral (white) wire have a silver finish. The ground screws are usually anodized green.
You'll actually find green colored ground screws in tons of devices, not just outlets and plugs.
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If this truly needs to be said, a giant meteor is too good for us. I get that people are stupid as fuck but Jesus, trusting your life to AI at this point is next level idiocy
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I mean what the fuck am I even seeing?
and also, spicy ground.
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Honestly doesn't look particularly dangerous. I think this nets you a ground neutral connection with two test points?
Would it be useful? Absolutely not. Dangerous? p Probably not.
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This is a plug, not an outlet; and it shorts the live + neutral pins together. There is no ground pin present, though a wire labeled ground is also being shorted to the live+neutral pins. (basing 'pins' on shape/colour and ignoring that at least one is in the wrong position)
If this doesn't immediately trip the breaker when plugged in, it's because you have an open neutral; and now whatever's on the end of that ground wire (typically exposed metal) is live.
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The live and neutral pins are wired together, so there's not really a reason for the power to travel to that ground wire. Unless the path to the ground of the device, and then from there to actual ground, is shorter, then nothing will flow that way. It's absolutely not safe, but a number of other factors would need to be present before it were deadly.
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wire an outlet
It says plug in the title.
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JUST. WHY. There are so so many freely available photos already online that don't need to be generated AGAIN
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With deeper integration of AI into search machines, such as Google, the distinction between AI generated and real search results becomes more and more complicated.
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But those images are hosted by companies other than Google. You might visit those sites instead of staying on a Google-owned domain where they can keep making money off of you.
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anyone who asks AI for any help at all.
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I'm sending this to my electrician friends.
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Darwin awards?
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Doesn't this just bond neutral to ground? It's definitely illegal and will kill you if some other device has a short and makes ground hot, but at least it's not a suicide cord
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It's just a really exciting circuit breaker tester...
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Ahh, you must be a fellow viewer of ElectroBOOM.
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Gemini says don't use breakers.
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That's like natural selection in action. Of course I wouldn't want anyone injured, but if you blindly trust something like this, you almost deserve what might happen to you.
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I guess if left unchecked, the AI faithful will ultimately wipe themselves out. Too bad it'll take too long to save the rest of us.
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You guys are trusting AI?
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Nope. Actual sentient beings aren't even usually trustworthy so why would I trust a word guesser?
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How come he didn't promote chatgtp
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Wtf
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what in the ai fuc is this nonsense .. is that real?
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I get that it's a bad idea to trust AI to something so important. And that it's probably going to shock or kill you.
But since I'm not an electrician, ELI5. What's wrong with this diagram?
In addition to what the other person said, there's a wire here connecting the two prongs together. This is a short circuit and would at least blow a breaker and at worst start a fire.
The outlet has three wires (black, white, and green), and the device to be plugged in has three wires (black, white, and green). The whole point of the plug is to connect each color wire to its counterpart, and only to its counterpart.
This picture is so frustrating. There's no apparent source for the "live" wire. But if you tried following this with your real wiring (white, black and green do exist), you would be connecting your hot, neutral and ground lines all together. I doubt it would kill you at 120 V but it would definitely trip your breaker the moment you plug it in, and almost certainly make some nice big arcs.