A quick reminder, 2025 update should include AI in the diagram
A quick reminder, 2025 update should include AI in the diagram
A quick reminder, 2025 update should include AI in the diagram
No, the better solution is to add more black bars to the side so that it fits on to a wide screen.
Wait, what if are made an AI that was also a blockchain based NFT? We could scam so many venture capitalists
We'll verify every state of the neural network on the blockchain, for reasons, all of them good ones. It'll pay for itself by allowing people to invest and buy those unique states. :v
Talk about improving our synergies!
Gotta chase that Alpha!
In the metaverse!
You mean "innovate greatly", right? /s
Okay, but, devils advocate:
What if I'm a billionaire trying to crush the working class and accelerate climate change and political division so the class war doesn't pop off before i can get to my climate bunker?
Or a billionaire fascist who wants to sloppify everyone's brains and increase alienation while annihilating interiority so people will become docile and the class war won't pop off and we get the 1984 timeline?
Or a billionaire asshole who wanted to murder a concept and settled on 'truth'?
Or a really big 'infinite jest' fan?
So "ai" has a lot of use cases. Maybe dont be such a reflexive reactionary fucking Luddite piece of shit about it.
That’s the thing, AI is an exceptional propaganda machine. Blockchain isn’t really exceptional at anything - it’s just a reinvention of the wheel.
Blockchain solves a specific problem: safe transactions without a trusted authority.
It has a lot of downsides to solve this problem without a trusted authority, so in any case where you can use a trusted authority (for example a central server) it's much better to use that instead of a blockchain.
So everyone who added blockchains to their projects gained all the downsides while never having the problem it was meant to solve in the first place.
AIs, and I assume you meant LLMs with that, are a different breed. LLMs are new: never before could a computer handle natural language to such a degree.
Problem is, that it's still new. So no one knows what the "killer applications" are or what monetization should look like, or what the laws about it will be.
People just throw every against the wall and see what sticks... And hope for AGI/ASI and to be on the side that rides that nearly infinite potential to the moon.
Or, you know, crash and burn in case AI reaches a wall/diminishing returns/systemic problems that can't be fixed.
We will see.
Blockchain is an adequate solution to a problem that already has other, cheaper solutions.
AI is an adequate solution to a problem that has no other similarly adequate solutions (classification of complex information). Unfortunately, all the money is in that solution being applied to problems where it's not adequate (content generation, user interaction).
Blockchain is good if you want everyone to know who you send your money to.
Which sounds stupid, but if we used it more for things that aren't stupid money, perhaps we could find something where transparency and permanent immutable logs are a good thing. For currency those may even be bad things because privacy. Which Monero solves and that's actually another useful thing - ability to make untraceable payments remotely. Used to have to use cash for that.
What's the original invention you're thinking of?
I struggle to think of anything where it's the best system, that's true. Even crypto works better other ways.
Every decade has at least one of these buzzwords (multimedia, internet/ online, social media, mobile app, blockchain, cryptocoins, micropayment, delivery, ai,...).. They can be used to attract dumb investor's money but they have their useful sides too.
Ok. They are just buzzwords which outline a set of tools. They are worthless without a realizable concept with a benefit for the end-user. And the use of the right tool for the job. So, I'm not sure about useful cryptocoins and blockchain use cases (I wouldn't count financial speculation as particularly useful).
Just to point but...
Nothing is stopping that first billionaire to run to their climate bunker right now. It's currently way better than it will be during the disaster.
And making people dumber is an almost certain way to make them more violent too.
The odds are good some of them are thinking exactly like you pointed. But that would be because they are dumb.
Violent but not united against them.
We can dig up a bunker right now.
They're all some mixture of stupid and insane.
Even I know that.
A surprisingly high number of techbros doesn't though.
Tech bros using every buzzword to sound smart after they just lost tousands
That's because they're fucking idiots.
Can someone explain this joke in programmer terms?
I just wrote an AI that is trained to classify image patterns and automatically creates bitmasks based on the pattern distributions. We tried k-means clustering and got garbage. How would I have done that without AI?
The current hype trend is to build a lazy web UI around a general agentic AI and calling it a day.
What you're doing is more similar to what established firms were already doing with machine learning 5 years back.
Yeah, the joke is that every company is trying to ram LLMs and Agentic LLMs into everything without thinking about what they're trying to accomplish. Like the trend with blockchain a decade ago.
Yours is a valid use case for ai. That's why it doesn't fit the meme.
Thanks. That sounds more like a joke aimed at non-programmers about people who think they're programmers. If I'm willing to ignore all the valid use cases of AI, I guess it might be funny to assume that none exist.
But the meme is making the more extreme claim that no uses exist, so any counterexamples mean it's untrue. Not the best way of criticizing companies that don't know or care what a technology is good for imo.
I thought we were doing ai now
—> Yes. —> No, you don't.
I made money odd BTC and that's it.
Whatever vision they had, it's not fucking happening. Web3 being pushed by those altcoins is bullshit. It's so totally unnecessary.
Ok I will do a image recognition software using if else.
That was done with neural networks way before LLM hypetrain?
AI is not just LLM
Yeah, they're complaining about a technicality. Using the word "AI" to refer to LLMs or to generative AI is just common parlance. That definition changes every few years. Five years ago, neural networks were referred to as "AI" and a few decades ago, the AIs stealing our jobs were calculators. This is known as the AI effect.
Among experts, "AI" describes a whole research field with a myriad of applications, of which image recognition is definitely one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence
So I’m clear, does blockchain always refer to those *coin currencies? Or is it be used for other purposes too?
Imagine you have a database, you decide to add something to it and now you have to solve 5000 sudokus. Also you can't remove anything as well. Have fun
Imagine many entities have a shared database. You cannot trust anyone else but you have to add something. The consensus mechanism of the algorithm of your choice ensures that only good actors participate through sheer game theory. This naturally has a cost and you are happy to pay it. You have a lot of fun
cannot remove anything is a feature, it prevents people from changing history (imagine being able to undo all your outgoing payments)
And the reason you have to solve 5000 sudoku is by proving you have a limited resource, in this case processing power (and proof of stake makes it the money you have and skip the 5000 sudokus). Because if you are identifying people by a user account, there's nothing stopping 1 person from creating 20 billion accounts.
I do understand what blockchains are; my question is more to whether they are used outside of cryptocurrencies or not.
I do also like your explanation.
This is just plain wrong. Blockchain is not a synonym for cryptocurrency or proof-of-work.
Grifters ruin everything and this reply is a perfect example
can be used for AI
I hate this so much because it's absolutely false. Nobody needs cryptocurrency. But Blockchain has very real value that has nothing to do with currency, grift, or "proof of work". Blockchain is NOT synonymous with crypto and the fact that everyone believes it is shows exactly how much damage the grifters have done :(
EDIT: Haters gonna hate. Hope everyone who down-votes reads the replies too.
EDIT 2: Here you go,, everybody. I did the research for you....
Supply chain management
- Food safety: Companies like Walmart and IBM Food Trust use blockchain to track food products from their source to the store shelf. This allows for a swift, precise response to contamination by tracing affected items, potentially saving lives and reducing waste.
- Logistics and shipping: Shipping giant Maersk has partnered with IBM to create TradeLens, a blockchain platform that digitizes and automates shipping documents and processes. This increases transparency and efficiency across the global supply chain.
Healthcare and medical records
- Secure data sharing: Blockchain can create a secure, interoperable system for storing and sharing patient medical records. Patients can use private keys to control who accesses their sensitive data, ensuring privacy while allowing authorized providers to get the information they need.
- Pharmaceutical tracking: The MediLedger Project uses blockchain to secure the pharmaceutical supply chain, verifying the integrity of drugs and reducing the risk of counterfeit medications.
- Clinical trial management: Platforms like TrialSite use blockchain to record clinical trial data securely and transparently. This helps maintain the integrity of results, building greater trust among researchers, regulators, and participants.
Government and public services
- Land and property records: The government of Georgia has used blockchain to secure land and property records, creating an immutable and transparent public record. This reduces fraud and ensures the integrity of land titles.
- Voting systems: The mobile voting platform Voatz uses a blockchain-based system to enable secure, transparent mobile voting for eligible service members and travelers abroad. This provides a resilient solution against fraud and data corruption.
Finance (non-crypto) and banking
- Efficient transaction processing: Financial institutions like the Singapore Exchange Limited are using blockchain to streamline interbank payments. This reduces manual reconciliation and enables more efficient processing of thousands of transactions.
- Supply chain finance: TradeIX uses blockchain to provide a transparent platform for supply chain finance, automating processes and streamlining transactions.
Education
- Credential verification: Learning Machine uses blockchain for the secure issuance of digital diplomas and credentials. This provides a more trustworthy and efficient method for verifying academic achievements.
Intellectual property and media
- Transparent ticketing: Companies like Guts use blockchain to create a transparent ticketing ecosystem that eliminates ticket fraud and the secondary ticket market.
Energy and utilities
- Peer-to-peer energy trading: Homeowners with solar panels can use blockchain-based platforms to automatically sell their excess energy to neighbors. Smart meters record the transactions on a blockchain, automating the entire process.
I see this kind of comment on pretty much every thread about Blockchain, and yet those commenters aren't ever able to share a use case where Blockchain solves a problem better than the existing technology. Maybe you have one though?
Sure do! Quoting my other reply:
Immutable ledger for inter-branch bank transaction synchronization.
This is already in use at multiple financial institutions with significant value. It has increased the speed at which transactions can be verified and distributed across large networks of bank branches so that, for example, when you deposit your money at one bank branch it becomes available elsewhere on the network immediately without waiting for the end-of-day ledger reconciling. Previously, banks had to send just the transaction details and trust that it would be valid during reconciling (the "pending" status).
Want some more?
EDIT: Took the liberty of adding a bunch of examples to my original reply 👍
Show one use case of Blockchain outside cryptocurrency. It must also be a better solution than a traditional database.
Immutable ledger for inter-branch bank transaction synchronization.
This is already in use at multiple financial institutions with significant value. It has increased the speed at which transactions can be verified and distributed across large networks of bank branches so that, for example, when you deposit your money at one bank branch it becomes available elsewhere on the network immediately without waiting for the end-of-day ledger reconciling. Previously, banks had to send just the transaction details and trust that it would be valid during reconciling (the "pending" status).
Want some more?
EDIT: Went ahead and added several examples to my original reply. 👍
I'd go the other way. Crypto has uses, and crypto works better when built on other Byzantine-resilient systems.
Most of your examples still would work better with a conventional database, because there's an obvious trusted party and/or privacy needs.
Of course, if there's a trusted party a conventional database is better. But that's like saying that umbrellas are useless because it's often sunny outside. Having or not consensus (or a trusted party) is usually not a choice, it's an imposition. Conflicting interests exist and it's difficult to work around them.
Using Blockchain in these situations provides clear advantages. The whole point is removing the need for trusted parties in yes scenarios because it introduced significant risk. Centralization has implicit dangers.
And hey, cryptocurrency also has utility outside speculative markets and grifters!
It can be used to move money freely and often times more efficiently, and some of it can be used for private payments, too. Ability to financially support someone anonymously is important for democracy.
It also allows you to get money directly without revealing sensitive payment information or relying on third party with giant fees. This is objectively good!
yup, the buying drugs part is the legit good use of crypto. Always cringe when people acts like that's a negative when saying that's their only use.
wait, what if we created a neurotechnological device powered by AI that'll read your mind and speak to people instead of you?