Oklahoma Senate candidate: Parents who use IVF are “waging an assault against God”
Oklahoma Senate candidate: Parents who use IVF are “waging an assault against God”
Pastor Dusty Deevers, an anti-abortion extremist, loves embryos more than infertile couples
Why the glasses, dickwad? Just run into walls like god intended for you.
58I'm just like, "Cool, guess we're doing away with Viagra, too, hunh?"
crickets, I'm sure ....
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If god was so unhappy with IVF why does it work? If god didn't want it to be it wouldn't... Unless there is no god? Ramen
39God prefers to do the fucking. Ask Mary.
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Subpoena his Viagra prescription.
31I am in the IVF process right now. I keep proposing to tell every religious person I know that they aren't allowed to hug, kiss, or visit my abomination baby.
21Successful IVF parent here: it is a difficult, trying process but the reward is amazing! I tell our child that they were wanted so badly that we had to do some crazy things, but it worked.
Best of luck to you!
5We didn't get very many fertilized eggs, so odds are we won't get a baby this round. This process is so disappointing at every stage.
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Good luck with the ivf!
4They won't give a shit about it after it exits the womb anyway
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If you don't know: IVF fertilizes an embryo in the lab and implants it into the uterus. Often multiple embryos are implanted in one procedure to ensure at least one is viable. If a plural pregnancy results, the mother can decide to "cull" the excess. (I don't remember the proper term but abort isn't it because you abort a pregnancy not an embryo)
In any case, anti-choice activists believe that all embryos are people. Which is clearly false since they don't have a detectable credit score.
19Same argument as People who wear glasses wage war against god.
Disclaimer: I believe people should use science. That's why we were given advance brains.
19god handed him a prescription
4Out of curiosity, how were we "given" advanced brains? And how are they advanced? Dolphins can do some amazing things with their brains that we can't.
2Sure I don't disagree. I'm sure the dolphins will thank us for the fish when they leave the planet as is tradition for their people. In general, I Don't see animals making wonders that shape the earth or discovering secrets of the universe. Without human intervention animals will live in the wild and they will never be anything more than that. Humanity can do more like I dk make glasses for someone that needs them.
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Same argument as People who where glasses wage war against god
Pol Pot style Christian denomination lol
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Your omnipotent god can be defeated by humans with a few tools?
Puny god.
19Weird that a guy with a disability aid would be against modern healthcare. I know adjusting your eyesight and creating life are different, but they're honestly not that different. Both are just aids for body failures. Plus with stuff like micro plastics possibly affecting fertility, it's not like God is the one making these people less fertile. (Unless the micro plastics are part of God's plan, but if that's true, how come IVF isn't also part of God's plan??)
16My god stop it! You're hurting their little brains
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So contraception is bad, but IVF is also bad. Trying to stop yourself getting pregnant is bad. Trying to get pregnant is bad.
Can these drop kicks actually figure out what they want?
15Dudes wearing glasses talking about how other ppl shouldn't use tech to make their lives better.
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I have no want or need for ivf. How might I wage an assault on god?
11Donate to your local satanic temple chapter
8As far as I know, I am my local TST chapter. I donate to myself constantly.
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maybe that god.
my god says ' you're not boutique engineering your kids yet?! '
10Pfft. There's no war if the other side never shows up. This battle was over long, long ago. Yahweh forfeited.
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i'd like to formally welcome people who can't have children without medical assistance to the resistancetogether, we will kill god
9Yes. God is dead, it is the year One. Mike Johnston is the anti-Christ we have long waited for to rule our country. Let the mass destruction of mankind begin!!
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That just makes it sound metal.
8If we are waging a war against god, but nothing happens or changes... What the fuck kinda war is it then. The name is definitely better than the war itself.
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It's an expensive procedure, so they want to lay the groundwork to be able to exclude it from health insurance by claiming "religion."
8I thought the forced birth movement was about making people have as many babies as possible to feed the insatiable capitalist labour machines. Now apparently there's a right way and a wrong way to provide the human capital?
7Yes! You may only perform sexual acts with the end goal of procreation. You may also only perform procreation in the missionary position.
I have also heard tale that it is better to perform no acts at all, and have heard gloating of being such completely pure.
4Once they come for the birth control there’ll be plenty of forced births, no worries
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And winning 💪
6Hell yeah wage that war
6and we're winning you fuckin doofus eat shit
6Ironic coming from someone who was clearly derived in a test tube from Dreher Material
5How do we make this grounds for disqualification?
5Uncritical support to IVF users in their assault against god
5Not this shit again, they just want another group to hate against for their weird death cult hate fetish
4Feel like if this god is so powerful he should be able to handle a little war here and there right?
Or is the Christian god just not as strong/powerful as they want us to believe?
4Nah it's the typical "our enemies are extremely dangerous yet weak and pathetic. Our god is strong and immovable yet fragile and easily lost"
It's a bullshit manipulation tactic that is surprisingly effective
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Even if they are, so what? "God" isn't a thing in secular life.
4It seems apparent to me that parents who create Oklahoma state senators are waging an assault against god, christian fellowship, jesus, all non-white Americans, and anyone unwise enough to be a native american. Maybe we should stop letting Oklahomophobes gain any access to pulpits or public offices.
3Doesn't IVF involve masturbation, followed by medical implantation? Wonder which part god has a problem with? The first, the second, or both?
Because if it's the first, he may have some issues with his teenage nephews.
3My God is a giant dish of pasta
3Ramen to that.
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The abrahamic god sure is a weak pansy, huh?
1I've heard from people who were conceived by IVF and the general consensus is "Don't." If you can't conceive normally, then don't brute force the process and give your future kid all kinds of genetic disorders because you're lonely. It has nothing to do with god - it has everything to do with not causing a lifetime of suffering of for your child.
edit since you are all intent on downvoting me for saying the truth: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3650450/
-9Did you read this study? Its seems like the majority of problems stem from premature births rather than the act of ART
7Uuuuummmmm OK? Any evidence beside reaching into your ass and pulling out shit?
5What, supernatural tales from a 2000 year old book not enough for you?
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That's wierd, I know some people who were concieved this way, and they're just normal people. with normal health.
5Liar.
4Oops wrong person
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I think you are blowing these findings out of proportion. Having a baby in any way comes with a degree of these health risks, and IVF babies are a bit higher. Doesn't mean no one should have IVF babies, just as it doesn't mean no one should have naturally conceived babies. Everything in life comes with risks.
3You have literally no concept or idea of the process or the result. Next time try hearing from a doctor that specializes in it.
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