2y ago

Germany wie gewohnt

Business As Usual

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At the risk of being downvoted, I will try to explain what is the difference.
The farmers and their union planned and informed the Police about the protests with time in advance. The menure and the demonstrations might not be part of that but I do not know. Germany does respect the right to protest.
On the other hand, the climate protesters did not share their plans with the police and caused some property damage. But more than that they put themselves in danger, as some of them glued their hands.
I'm all in for the climate as well as for the farmers.
- Property damage vs. planning to assault a human being... I wonder what is worse
  
  I wonder what is worse
  The one that's over an long-term cause that can be ignored right now rather than wanting money right now!
  That one was easy.
  
  The left wants to burn cars, and the right wants to burn foreigners. And since I don't own any foreigners...
- The Last Generation does that too, you know? They call ahead and inform Police and Fire department over their actions. They simply don't wait to be allowed to demonstrate because why would they? The Government simply ignores them and their demands to stop killing us all slowly.
- Where some of the fatmers protests announced yes but by god not all of them. Some town were completly cut of by trucks and tractors without notice. Doctors and Nurses werent able to get to hospitals they in some case didnt let the police trough which is amazong on so many levels to me.
- You're all in for subsidizing fossil fuels?
  
  Electric tractors are not there yet and they are not free, I'm in for not letting the farmers live in poverty. Inflation and the current state of things is not good for them.

The farmers' lobby is one of the largest and most influential in Germany. Farmers made an average operating profit of more than €80,000 in 2021/2022 and received a total of more than €40,000 in subsidies. So yes. Simply capitalist lobbying.

even as a german i dont understand this meme? diesel subvention is good for the farmers?!?!? A tractor doesnt work with just hot air?
Or does it meant Germany against farmers wanting to lunch government members, because they cut diesel subvention?
I dont know the facts but the meme doesnt make sense for me XD
- We have shown no regard for climate protesters (progressives) and remove them by force wherever they show up, because we can’t have them threaten the status quo.
  Meanwhile our fucking farmers, being sustained by substantial government money against all reason, throw a hissy fit when the government has to cut it unexpectedly because our supreme court decided that the world dying of climate change is not enough reason to take on a bit of debt and denied their budget.
  And we let them.
  
  So.. what am I going to eat without local farmers?
  
  Being frankly, support local farmers is important, specially with all the uncertainties of climate changes. I also think that governments should help and incentivize criation of alternatives, just increasing the diesel price would not make a farmer use a hoe instead. For me this kind of solution is just government not helping at all but putting the weight in a specific groups.
  I'm all in against lobby and things like that but we need strong governments leading the energy transformation, not the private sector, specially weak markets like farming can't do this alone, only large landowners.
  
  I mean supporting our local farmers benefits both, the environment and the people around them with jobs.
  With the "progressives" arent they called "klimakleber" if so i have no regards on them too, blocking roads for cars or even emergency services i have no tollerance on that, they are literally killing people with their behaviour.
  We all know that there is a climate change, but with that behaviour no one will ever do anything, because like said just the name is saying everything.
- Klimademonstranten werden von der Straße gezerrt weil Sie versuchen uns am elendigen verrecken zu hindern. Bauern die in Landwirtschaftlichen Betrieben im Schnitt mehr als 80.000€ GEWINN (nicht Rohgewinn, nicht Umsatz sondern ECHTEN GEWINN) machen und davon mit mit mehr als 40.000€ subventioniert werden regen sich auf und bekommen sogar noch Verständnis weil Sie minimal weniger Subventionen bekommen würden. Dabei wurde von den Kürzungen schon wieder einiges zurück genommen BEVOR die Proteste anfingen. Dazu kommt das diese "Demonstranten" Habeck am verlassen einer Fähre gehindert haben, versucht haben diese zu stürmen und ein Gesprächsangebot von Habeck einfach stumpf abgelehnt haben. Was auch immer die machen wollten, reden war es ja scheinbar nicht.
  (Bild weil Statista einen manchmal einfach die Statistiken nicht sehen lässt.)
- Sure, here:
  Fossil fuel subsidies (lead to more GHG emissions): https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2023/08/24/fossil-fuel-subsidies-surged-to-record-7-trillion
  gap in work to stop GHG emissions: https://www.unep.org/resources/emissions-gap-report-2023
- Why is your name red in the voyager app. Blue is for the OP but never seen red
  
  I am an admin.
- I’m more concerned about the clown make up. I’m pretty sure using clowns against civilians violates at least 3 dozen conventions of the Geneva accords…
  
  The legal punishment for that is "get punched by Batman"

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