Fears over €10 kebabs go all the way to German parliament
Fears over €10 kebabs go all the way to German parliament
The doner, known as Germany’s national dish, is being skewered by the rising prices of ingredients amid cost of living crisis, MPs are told
The doner, known as Germany’s national dish, is being skewered by the rising prices of ingredients amid cost of living crisis, MPs are told
It has always been a delicious – if slightly greasy – treat for Germans, perhaps even their national dish.
But the mighty döner kebab has now become a symbol of the country’s cost of living crisis, amid warnings from some quarters that the dish will soon cost more than €10 a serving.
Peckish Germans are so concerned about rising prices that the issue was debated this week in the Bundestag, the German parliament.
Hanna Steinmüller, an MP for the Greens, raised the issue after she was approached by anxious members of a frisbee youth club in Gesundbrunnen, part of her Berlin constituency.
Among the frisbee players’ main concerns, she told MPs, was “increased kebab prices” which are estimated to have gone up from around €3.50 (£2.90) in 2022 to at least €6 (£5.10) in recent months.
In November, one major döner producer warned that it was becoming a “luxury” dish that could soon end up costing as much as €10 (£8.50).
Take my love, take my land,
take me where I cannot stand...
I don't care as long as we
get kebab for treefiddy
97Take me out to doner shack
Tell 'em I ain't comin' back
Burn the meat and boil the tea
get kebab for treefiddy
41I'm so sorry for your loss
But I'll always call you boss
Price of overheads you see?
No kebab for treefiddy
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All rise for the German national anthem
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3,50€ for Döner in 2022 might be a Berlin thing, in other cities this price was more like 2012. A "major döner producer" is not a credible source for economical forecasting, hell it is probably one of the shittiest places to have Döner in general
Döner prices have gone up, as has everything else. Also there is no such thing as a right on having cheap meat.
44As a Berliner, it doesn't match my memory either. I don't have historical data other than my own shitty memory, but I remember vaguely getting upset at Döner prices during the Pandemic being above 3,50€ (so in 2020).
10I paid 3,50 in Hamburg in 2007. These days it's 7,90 at the same place. Just based on inflation over that period it should cost under 5 Euro.
7Covid-profiteering.
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Also there is no such thing as a right on having cheap meat.
{Confused American Noises}?
5there is no such thing as a right on having cheap meat
These days, the things people believe they have a right to are insane. It frequently spills over into preventing other people from doing or having certain things.
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Same for burger prices in the US.
Back when I was in college and shortly after, I pretty much lived on $0.99 Whoppers from Burger King.
Looking at the app, the local price now is $10.23, which is €9.48 or £8.09.
31Although that is a great drunk food metric for the Midwest. Southwestern border states track burrito inflation, northeastern states track the cost of a slice, and southeastern states drunk food currency is pegged to the Waffle House bill.
14The reason I went with burgers is because of the whole notion of the kabob being a national dish for Germany.
Burritos and pizza and wafflehouse are all popular, but nothing is as national as burgers.
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I ordered a Burger King last week and it was £11.46 for a double whopper meal, around $14.48 or €13.40. It’s not a cheap meal any more.
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Ok I love Döner as much as every Berliner but it is not our national dish lmao
27Find a single other dish that is both commonly eaten and over-regional. Even if Currywurst was properly over-regional, it's a snack, not an actual meal.
If you ask canteens the most popular dish is Rinderrouladen but I assure you a lot more Döner are eaten every day.
I propose we add Döner to Article 22 of the Basic Law. That's where it belongs.
10Currywurst Pommes is a proper meal. In due time it will merge with the Döner to something awe inspiring, an unseen godly feast of epic taste, but at the moment we‘re stuck with Döner Box with Pommes
I foresee we will get to choose Currywurst sauce at the Döner place one day. They already started with curry-mango. We’re slowly getting there. It will be the dawn of a new day, a new hope for a new people that understood that Döner and Currywurst are just two sides of the same coin
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The California equivalent would be burrito inflation.
15Similarly, isn't there some kind of relationship between the slice pizza and the cost of a subway ride in NYC?
7I have noticed both going up. I miss it when I could take the family to a diner once every two weeks and have family breakfast. Last time we did that the bill was 50 dollars. I can't justify that kinda cost. By the looks of the restaurants in my area other people are deciding the same way.
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warnings from some quarters that the dish will soon cost more than €10 a serving. Hanna Steinmüller, an MP for the Greens, raised the issue after she was approached by anxious members of a frisbee youth club
What the fuck am I reading here? That does not sound like very reliable sources. It sounds more like complete bullshit.
13I don't know from where they got the frisbee club thingy but it's real and I don't see why you'd think it isn't.
4?? So you are saying a kebab is ALREADY €10 Euro, or are you saying that you too fear that it will soon be?
Nobody denies rising cost of living in general, but that's not what the article is about.1
I wouldn't be surprised if it's already 10 Euros in some places. E.g. my town is notorious for not having cheap options, every single place has good meat, not only are none trying to get away with selling Hackfleischspieß as Döner, none of them use any ground meat at all (by law, a Döner skewer can't contain stabilisers which severely limits the amount of ground meat you can include before it falls apart).
Eight Euros are pretty much standard here. Just under 10 if you want a Lahmacun Döner, and my town isn't the poshest, by far -- we just have good taste in Döner and one very old shop which always made their own skewers, own spice mix, own everything, which set the standard.
Try to get the same stuff in Westerland and I wouldn't be surprise if it costs 15 Euros.
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Doner kebab for the people - this is why we fight! Whether you call it Doner, Gyro or Shawarma we stand united!
9Thanks for clarifying. I looked it up and was expecting shish kebobs of some kind but it looked like a gyro lol
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This is what happens when the disparity in wealth grows instead of shrinks.
5I find this very exaggerated. In my experience, Germany has one of the most balanced cost-of-living situations of any developed country I've been to. Inflation is something all Western countries have been going through lately, but Germany remains relatively affordable compared to most of their peers.
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What? Döner is really not that greasy.
2Have you seen the meat? It literally pours out grease. Fun fact: a main ingredient of döner meat is chicken skin.
3Depends on your local döner supplier's supplier. I'm pretty sure my lamb döner doesn't contain chicken skin, unlike the cheap "Drehspieß".
For reference, there was a legislation set in place thatandates that a real "Döner" has to contain a certain amount of quality meat, otherwise it can not be sold under that name.
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