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Linkerbaan @lemmy.world

2y ago

1 Upvote = 1 Condemn

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It's funny how this isn't even a joke
- I dunno dude that sounds pretty hamas
  
  Is hamas the Hebrew word for haram?
  
  Excuse me sir do you have any idea how Hamas you were driving just now?
- This engine is Hamas
  
  Is hamas woke? According to some people, probably.
This post is Hamas
- Your comment is Hamas
  
  Hamas!
We are all Hamas on this blessed day
I saw this happen on Reddit and was like are these bots or real people ...
- At this point not sure which is worse.
I'm going to end bibi's whole career: no u
They're called Hamaspitals
- That white truck with the red crescent and flashing lights? Hamasbulance.
Evangelicals when I try to explain to them Israel's crimes against the Palestinian people
You are HIV hamas
honestly, at this point, i don't have the capacity to care anymore. You wanna take about the delicate nuances of the israel-hamas conflict? Absolutely, i love that kind of shit.
You wanna debate whether this is good/bad? Good luck.
- Good/bad is the wrong aproach. What ppl this days lack is the sense of chivalry. If you see someone that was right in an argument beating the shit out of the guy that was wrong, you as a human being still should intervene to stop the onslaught.
  It's 10k civilian deaths vs 500 civilian deaths. May be time to stop the massacre?
  
  good bad is definitely the wrong approach. Like i said i love talking about the intricacies of these conflicts, because they're fun, but anytime someone pulls out stats or numbers that are/aren't verified my eyes just glaze over because even if it's true (from my perspective) i dont even know if israel is a real place, i've never been there. It could all be a lie. Is that likely? No, of course not, chances are it IS a real place, but the fact of the matter still stays the same. How relevant is it to me? Not very. Humans dying is bad, but humans die constantly, all over the place, for tons of different reasons, war is unfortunately one of the worse ways to go out, but it's just one of the ways.
  is israel doing/has done bad things over the conflict? Absolutely. I'm not going to say they didn't. Have hamas also probably done bad things? Probably. Can i confirm either on of those things? Nope. What can i do then? Simple, i can try to understand the intricacies of the situation as best as possible so that way i can have an informed and realistic understanding of the situation. Does that mean war is suddenly good? No, obviously not, is it more productive and better than simply stating "war bad, stop doing war" Probably.
  There are a lot of people defending israel in this because hamas is "a terrorist group" and "want to kill all jews" Is any of that true? No clue, and frankly i don't really give a shit. There are a lot of people defending palestine because "they're the small guy" "they're being oppressed" "israel is a militaristic ruler" etc, etc. etc.. I could go on for hours honestly. Again, do i care? Not really. There is a lot of contradictory, conflicting (both true and untrue) information on both sides. It's not a simple conflict, there is no simple resolution.
  Whats the ideal outcome? Israel and palestine co-exist peacefully, simultaneously somehow. Anything other than that is messy and bound to let the same thing happen again in the future.
  It’s 10k civilian deaths vs 500 civilian deaths. May be time to stop the massacre?
  what does this statement mean? I dont know. The way i look at it is that 15000 people have died, and there are people out here who think the single most important factor in this whole conflict is "but, more people on this side, have died than on this side" that's terrible, did we ever stop for a second to consider that maybe war is just bad. There is no good outcome here, people die no matter what happens, the best thing we can do is to PREVENT war. Not wait for it to happen. To me it really seems like nobody cares about the actual people dying, or all the bad things happening, it seems like people care about which side deserves it, and which side unfairly procured it. Which like i've said multiple times, is a very interesting discussion. We're talking about war, not about the history, logistics, and complications behind it. We should be talking about what is happening, rather than what we care about is happening.
  We're sitting here justifying the single worst human invention, in the name of posterity and justice. Rather than actually just taking the problem at face value, and seeing it for what it is, people killing each other, because we can't get along. That's the true problem here.
  (wall of text ik, i just have a lot of thoughts about a lot of things, and not enough time to write them down.)
- I like Ham and I like Ass, I dont know why everyone's so upset.
  
  Neither is kosher.
- Using the wrong version of "its" is pretty hamas there, bro.
  
  What are you, a grammar Hamas?
How to make the enemy commit war crimes and get everyone on your side during wartime 101: Use hospitals/schools as militaty base.
- How to commit war crimes: call everything a military base and don't offer any evidence for multiple months. Then get debunked.
  
  Archived
  
  Even if enemy combatants were truly hiding in the hospitals: you don't just drop bombs on it. You go in with ground forces and secure it while minimizing civilian casualties.
I saw an estimate of Hamas being 20-25k people. And they are operating in an area with 2M people.
So few people against so many.
Looks very much like there is 2M Hamas.
Because if 2M people would want to stop the 25k terrorists they could do it with less casualties than what Hamas claims Israel is inflicting while fighting the terrorists.
Good nuance
It keeps turning out that everything they say is true. Hell, even Amnesty has an article from 2015 saying they used hospitals for torture. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/05/gaza-palestinians-tortured-summarily-killed-by-hamas-forces-during-2014-conflict/
- Whoa crazy an empty disused office being used for a single offense 10 years ago. This is definite proof that the entire hospital is a Hamas command center.
  Now show me that massive Hamas base under Al-Shifa that the IDF actually claimed existed
  
  This War Of Mine?
- Better bomb some civilians, snipe some little girls, ruin infrastructure, stop ambulances, and flood the sewers so those Palestinian scu.. I mean Hamas, can learn their place... There, justified.
- When it comes to human shields, the only independent verification back in 2014 (Amnesty link) is of Weapons (not rockets) hidden at a vacant school, situated btwn 2 UNRWA schools housing displaced people, by a Palestinian armed group.
  The Guardian journalists had encountered a couple individuals in 2014 too.
  HRW on Laws-of-War Violations 2009
  Amnesty on Hamas War Crimes 2023
  Yet none of those come remotely close to making hospitals and schools bombing targets. Even if all the IDF claims were true, that does not exempt those hospitals and schools as protected under international law.
  While we're on the subject, let's look at how the IDF uses Human Shields including Children (2013 Report)
- Welcome to Hamas
- Bad guys being used as an excuse by other bad guys to commit atrocities.
  
  Yeah, only an idiot would think the IDF are shooting civilians for no good reason. It's OBVIOUSLY because they're all hamas. All of them, everywhere.
  On that same token, the "girl" with the narrow hips who struck my daughter out in softball is OBVIOUSLY trans, Orson Welles is OBVIOUSLY a communist and Iraq OBVIOUSLY has nukes.

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