Alice Cooper Calls Gender-Affirming Care for Trans Kids a ‘Fad,’ Condemns ‘the Whole Woke Thing’
Alice Cooper Calls Gender-Affirming Care for Trans Kids a ‘Fad,’ Condemns ‘the Whole Woke Thing’
He becomes the latest shock rocker to share his distaste for gender-affirming care after Dee Snider and Paul Stanley shared similar views.
He becomes the latest shock rocker to share his distaste for gender-affirming care after Dee Snider and Paul Stanley shared similar views.
That’s nice grandpa let’s get you back to bed
92Downvoted because this isn’t news, it’s culture war bait.
Who gives a fuck what Alice Cooper thinks?
82I don't care what he thinks, but now that he put it out there, I can't disassociate him from his shit opinion.
58That's actually a good point. Thank you. We don't need this rage bait shit.
7I feel like trans people and their allies should know who their enemies are and what they're saying and doing, if only for their own safety.
It is infuriating, and its not the reasoned and insightful conversations about our personally held systems of normative values and the experience and empirical evidence that informs them that I wish we were having instead of these conversations, but I just think it's irresponsible to turn a blind eye to it because ignoring it won't make it go away and could let it fester and spread.
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Thank you. Also downvoted this shit.
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The guy who dresses up and wears makeup..
73Was going to comment... for the dude that looks like a crazy cat lady in her 90s that had way too much to drink last night and woke up in a ditch he's got some weird opinion on this.
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so many bigots outing themselves.
46This stance seems so off-brand for Dee and Alice. But they are pretty up there in age. I might not want to know my dad's inner thoughts on this, either, I suppose. Still, for glam rockers raging against oppressive authority, it seems like they would have a more progressive take on this.
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36Dee likes to defy categorization, but claims to be both libertarian and centrist. And he has been friends with Donald Trump for a long time, so his early support for Trump's candidacy pissed off a lot of long-time fans. I think, but I could be wrong, that Snyder walked back his political support for Trump.
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Your last sentiment is one I’d agree with. You’d think that any rocker from back in the day that was all about being anti authority would tell people to go out there and do what the fuck they want. Hearing an opinion like this feels off brand lol
3I'm pretty sure that whole generation is getting early onset dementia they all went crazy together at about the same time
3still, for glam rockers raging against oppressive authority
Did he say he was for the government stopping trans people from making their own choices?
1As per usual, none of you morons in the comments read the goddamn thing.
"saying that he was “afraid that it’s also a fad"... the star said that he felt children were not mature enough to make major decisions about their gender identity"
His comment was "6 years olds want to play and be kids, shoving "you can be a boy or a girl" down their throat worries me, because they aren't mature enough to make that kind of decision"
A take that hardly anyone would disagree with. And as always, it's a rage bait article meant to role up the idiots on the internet.
-10“saying that he was “afraid that it’s also a fad”… the star said that he felt children were not mature enough to make major decisions about their gender identity"
You and Cooper both are setting fire to some pretty large strawmen. Standard transphobic tactic.
10It's a take that is based on lies and propaganda.
This is an example of a strawman argument. He's setting up this very specific idea of what is happening, and taking issue with it, when the vast majority of real world interactions are substantially more nuanced and specific to the kid and their family than the fake scenario put forth.
8Get your bullshit concern trolling out of here.
3Noooo, you can't be mad, you need to read what he's saying!
[The same old tired ass debunked a million times transphobic bullshit]
A take that hardly anyone would disagree with.
Yeah, disagreed.
2"Morons," "idiots." Thanks for your valuable contribution to the conversation.
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75 y-o shouts at sky.
I haven't heard Alice Cooper since I stopped listening to the Wayne's World soundtrack in the 90s. I guess I can continue to not hear him with impunity.
41Ok, I'm at the point where I really have to say 'so what?' about shit that aging, boomer rock stars of the cocaine fueled past say. Like really who gives a fuck what Alice Cooper thinks? He's always been a Gene Simmons level asshole main character personality type. He has only ever gotten attention by pissing someone off. This is easy. Let these people drift off into irrelevance. Stop allowing them to matter.
33The problem is that no matter how much those of us who know he's full of shit ignore him, he still has a massive platform and enough people who agree and will lap this shit up, and then do anything from bullying their trans co workers to going on a shooting spree, not to mention legislation that gets supported by these types and the harm it does (E: also, we don't know that he doesn't agree with what he's saying, but even if he claims not to, he's still throwing trans people under the bus which is an act of transphobia).
I agree that he's ragebaiting for attention but that doesn't change the impact of his words.
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19I still don’t understand why the trans thing has suddenly become a “problem.”
Because noone cares about homosexuality anymore(it has been mostly normalized), so they need a new target to scream about.
19They're literally on record saying they needed something big to rally behind after killing Roe because they were going to get murdered on abortion and needed a distraction. They whipped this up right quick alongside busting out "groomer" as their top slur right as Matty Fivehead was getting taken to court for diddling a sex-trafficked 17 year old. Gaslight. Obstruct. Project.
12It's this. Attacking gay people is no longer acceptable to enough people that conservatives can get away with it as a culture war tact. They've moved onto trans people which is more successful because there's a lot fewer trans people. We're seeing a LOT of bullshit getting flipped around and making people mad about things they didn't use to care about. The drag-hate is a good example. Tons of examples from history where drag is supported and now it's a major battleground? Bullshit. Just another way to find a convenient target for the right to hate.
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Fascists need enemies and the enemy needs to be both small in number and visibly identifiable.
14To approach this from a different angle, I would say this is actually an ironically encouraging sign that we are lurching in a good direction. There's always going to be some level of racism, misogyny, homophobia, etc., but those things are mainstream enough that you have to be really hard right to beat the drum for them. It's the kind of thing that might still play in certain areas, and with certain types or demographic, but the mainstream isn't really down with it. Open pro-trans movements and statements are pretty new compared to these other things, so it's just the latest in the succession of what-can-I-hate-up that authoritarian types latched onto. I have a feeling we're lurching -- and pretty quickly -- toward trans becoming more mainstream
2Thank you sincerely for this refreshingly positive take. I needed to read it.
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I still don’t understand why the trans thing has suddenly become a “problem.”
The Tea Party (remember them?) & MAGA have taught the leaders of the conservative movement that they need to constant feed the crazy (that they created) or they'll get dumped for anyone who is better at whipping up fear, hate, and anger.
if they don't want to join Jesus in being called weak and liberal, then they need to constantly demonize some vulnerable minority. POCs, lesbians, and gays are not that vulnerable any more, so whose next? Transgender people! hence the "trans thing has suddenly become a “problem.” "
Terfs (particularly lesbian terfs) are the worst examples, they're bigots desperately trying to get the conservative patriarchial gaze's approval, but without wanting to out themselves as desperatetly wanting conservative patriarchial gaze's approval. Bigoted chucklefucks.
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Oh shit, an old, irrelevant douchebag said it, so I guess it must be true. Someone put this man in a home, please.
16I guess a no-substance shock rocker dude who wears makeup and calls himself Alice would have a take on this subject. Really shitty take though.
10Rich, white, out-of-touch boomer. You used to be relevant, now you're just the status quo...
8Incredibly sad to see Alice Cooper using rote, boring anti-trans talking points, especially the old canard of 'any man can walk into a woman's restroom by saying he feels like a woman today,' which is something I've seen online more times than I can count and even heard in person from a few folks almost word-for-word. Don't be a parrot, Vincent.
7Something so many of these folks need to learn is that shutting up is free.
7I don't think it is a fad though.
5Fuck this fucking octogenarian.
5Old man yells at cloud
5Looks like somebody chewed on a bat that was past its sell-by date
5Talentless hack who was last relevant forty years ago (for some reason) manages to get into the news. Now back to your rocking chair, grandpa.
4Seriously. He’s just mad that he was a fad that’s no longer relevant and projecting that insecurity onto others.
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Anyone get Ja Rule's take?
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1Out-of-touch elderly boomer confirms they are exactly that.
1A lot of older people feel like this. It's an opinion that will sooner or later die out. I'm not going to bash people about old views in a world that is changing faster then we can keep up. Progress is slow and steady.
-4Nah, bashing helps. The divide is good.
7Older people need to be told they are wrong and given reasons why. Then they can adapt their views and understand their world better. Those that refuse to adapt should be ostracized. There's no room for bigots. I've been doing this same thing when I was misunderstanding the world and I hope to be adapting until I die.
7I don't know everyone's personal experiences on the matter but I can't blame people for wanting to pump the brakes a little when it comes to converting young children. It's not being a bigot to be concerned over something that is generally new to our society. But I only speak of the medical part of it. I have no issues with gender neutral bathrooms ect.... I just honestly don't know enough about the procedures and outcomes to say I can call someone a bigot for disagreeing.
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unless bigotry is pushed back, irrespective of the bigot's age, there will be no progress.
1Why should we trip over ourselves to accommodate the old people’s feelings? They’re clearly not working to understand the youth. Respect is a two way street.
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