Baldur’s Gate 3 is changing the way people play D&D for the better
Baldur’s Gate 3 is changing the way people play D&D for the better
Being horny for Astarion has made players better at the Rogue class in regular D&D
Being horny for Astarion has made players better at the Rogue class in regular D&D
Meanwhile everybody won’t know how to play Cleric outside of Life Domain.
sheds tear in Spiritual Weapon and Spirit Guardians
30...but those spells aren't unique to Life Domain Clerics? Every Cleric gets those spells.
15I don’t play DND (always wanted to, though!), but in BG3 those two spells have been complete lifesavers. Especially Spirit Guardians in Act 2.
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That's the joke?
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Spoilers, except I hear they patched that. 🤪
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Honestly I think I relearning cleric wrong. As I drag out the encounters and not resting as often as I would in a dnd adventure or lacking the normal expected encounters a day.
I turn my cleric more from utility class with some rare heal sprinkled in between to someone who except for spiritual weapons, spirit guardians CC only a heal bot.
5Does spiritual weapon scale ever? It's still a level 2 spell and I'm level 10 now... it misses most of the time and does like, 5 damage to 80+ hp enemies....
1You can upcast it for more damage. It gets 1d8 every 2 levels of upcast. But there are much better uses of your higher spellslots, like Spirit Guardians. As for missing, the attack roll is based on your spellcasting modifier. At level 10, you should have 20 points in Wisdom, which would give a +5 bonus to its attack rolls.
With some exceptions, the only things in dnd (5e) that typically scale with character level are cantrips, class features, and anything that uses your attribute modifers. For spells, you generally either upcast for some improvement, or (more often) use more powerful, higher level spells. But lower level spells can still be useful in their own right, especially if you play the game as intended and don't long rest excessively, since then you need to manage your resources carefully and higher level spells slots are in shorter supply than lower level ones.
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Lol the excerpt is one line of the article that talks much more in depth about it, but it sums it up quite well if you generalise for the whole dnd. xD
And I agree a lot with the article. I would even go farther: the game teaches players about their class and to interact with the world much more proactively, but it also teaches dm a lot imo, about encounter balance, items and what you can do with your campaign.
18So of course, the time Astarion finally wants to bang, Minthara already claimed me and I couldn't get them both at once. 😩
Minthara, though... She was even more upfront and easy than Lae'zel. But holy shit dat ass...
6So, no one's going to discuss the Astarion-shaped elephant in the room, I take it? In this era of conscientious consent, we're just going to gloss over the serial rapist allegory because he's part vampire — it's, what, just his nature? It's genuinely disappointing that this seems to get downplayed rather than sparking discourse, all due respect. 🤷🏼♂️
-35This is the weirdest take I've seen on Astarion...
He's not part vampire, he is a vampire. He is definitionally an evil, undead monster.
But also, he's not a rapist. He never rapes anyone in the game, and he never tries to rape anyone in the game. When he flirts with you, if you turn him down he backs down immediately and accepts that no means no. Hell, when he tries to bite you if you say no he backs down immediately and accepts that no means no too.
You're also given plenty of chances to kick him out of your party and to even attack him, precisely because he is an evil undead monster. For Astarion to hang around, you have to explicitly allow him to do so.
Call him a monster, call him evil, but comparing him with a rapist is just so far out there and makes no sense at all.
32I agree with most of what you said, and would also not call him a rapist, and don't think he should get quite a pass on the whole "backs down if you say no when you catch him" part.
He's not stupid and evil, so when his attempted prey wakes up he doesn't force the issue. He did still try to, somnophiliac-like, literally prey on an unconsenting unconscious person which is bad. He can be forgiven due to circumstance and dialogue, but that's a choice that I wouldn't say that a player would be wrong in making as compared to kicking him out.
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Serial? He says you're the first human he ever tried to bite. Everything before he was literally being mind controlled. If you want to compare it to rape that's fine, he does sneak up on you, but I don't see how that's a "serial rapist allegory"
18Is there any moment where he rapes anyone?? He tries to bite your neck once, and never again without consent. He speaks flirtatiously because spoilers
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Cazador trained him to do so for 200 years to lure victims, he was a slave not a rapist.
He is pain happy and clearly an evil person by all standards concerning the events that he agrees with, but not a rapist.
14I think you're overthinking it. He's just a vampire and that's why he acts kinda rapey without any allegorical implications. Then once you know, it's less rapey and more... Jeffery Dahmer. The same way Lae'zel seems like a huge bitch because that's just how the Gityanki are.
12The world is full of enough to be outraged over. You don’t need to manufacture it. Vampires are sneaky and biting people is not rape, it’s assault.
10That’s if you don’t take him at face value - which would have been a great RP point if it weren’t for the fact feeding literally gives him a “Happy” buff and leaves the other party with a “Bloodless” debuff, and that there’s no visible bite mark on your character unless you let him feed on you iirc. Plus, he makes good on his promise to not sneak around the camp again if you go “oh yeah, no worries dude you could’ve just asked”, so even moreso he seems sincere about only feeding on animals since joining up. If anything, he was acting less like a rapist and more like an addict because he was going through, y’know, literal blood withdrawals.
10I swear, that bloodless debuff to rolls is why I meta-gamed and never let him get his stupid teeth near my character again. She’s like, “I mean, it’s not like things can get any weirder and this way he’s not sneaking up on anyone else and getting into a pulp like if he tried that on Lae’zel,” but I was screaming, “You EFFED all my dice rolls, you a-hole!”
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A lot of people are going to discuss it; it took me all of three minutes to find several articles covering the problematic nature of this fictional character - it's not a matter glossed over, and I agree with you that it should not be glossed over.
The moral nature is not, however, in any way the subject of the article linked here - its entire premise is "people playing BG3 are getting familiar with more complex D&D rules through the medium of the game", including Astarion and rogue mechanics. He's mentioned once in the whole article, to illustrate that folks including him in his party are getting to grips with positioning and bonus action economy of his class.
Trying to cram moral judgement angle into this feels like conversationally lazy whataboutism.
8Issa fucking video game 🤣
Next you're going to tell me we have games where you viciously shoot up humans all day long with nearly infinite ammo!
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