Does the idea of this concern anyone else? Why is no one talking about it?
Does the idea of this concern anyone else? Why is no one talking about it?


Does the idea of this concern anyone else? Why is no one talking about it?
I don't use Windows.
That is not a good surprise.
Reminder that Microsoft is trying to shift Windows to be entirely cloud based, so this can easily happen overnight without your consent. You don't own your OS. Linux is the only way, unless you're one of those strange BSD folks.
For a business a cloud based OS would be far easier to be honest. It's just an iteration on remote desktop services, with better latency and better protection of the business because of tools like this. I don't think this should exist without consent on your private OS, but I can stand with not having to tell the new guy again that he can't torrent on company property.
They aren't trying to move to be completely cloud based. That was a bad headline that misconstrued what they were actually doing. The article actually just talked about how they wanted Windows to be fully streamable from the cloud as an option.
That's exactly how Office365/Microsoft365 got it's start. Now, instead of buying a copy of Office, you subscribe to Microsoft365.
I'm assuming that the path from cloud as an option to subscription based OS will be a little faster. To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if the stripped down locally installed version is offered as a Freemium option. Air-gapped and non-online computers usually just do one thing anyways. Most aren't being used to watch movies, buy stuff, etc.
My prediction would be that within 5 years, probably sooner, if you don't subscribe to your cloud-based Microsoft Windows OS, you'll have a bare-bones experience. Good enough for kiosks and such.
Granted, you are correct, the article passed around only talks about how it's an option right now, with some benefits… but we've all seen Microsoft do this exact same play before.
b-but muh proprietary software and vidya gaymes!!!!
Ik this is sarcastic but the video games issue is real regardless of Proton and its derivatives on Linux. Windows really is the best way to game right now
I made the jump several years ago to full Linux and never looked back. I game a bunch, built my own custom PC's for years. Linux has been great, and gaming on it has become fantastic.
The Steam Deck has helped push it even further, at this point I don't really check if games run on Linux, I assume they do and 95% of the time I'm right.
The few games that flat out don't run because of Anti-Cheat, I either wait until they are eventually supported, (Dead by Daylight, cough) or I just give them up. It isn't worth it to me to sacrifice my freedom, privacy, and consumer rights just to play a certain video game when there are literally 10's of thousands of games out there that I could play that run perfectly fine on Linux.
Are you saying the video game complaint isn't real? You have a solution? 90% of my personal PC use is gaming, otherwise anything I used to use my PC for is done with my phone.
Until Linux can support my entire steam library, I don't see why I'd bother.
I do all my gaming in Linux. Yeah there's some games i really wanted to play that don't work in Linux, but there are so many games i can't hope to play them all anyway.
I can't live without Call of Dooty!
oh no the 4chan meme arrow speak
20 years ago it was called TCP/Palladium and everyone was afraid this might happen. That was one of the reasons Microsoft implemented TPM chips.
Obviously everyone forget about it until now. Happy new times where Microsoft can dictate which files your, sorry, their computer is allowed to open.
Imagine still using Windows after all the shit they've pulled over the years.
MacOS? at least Unix?
Walled garden? Pass.
Depicted: Why I've been trying to violently cut away Windows' presence in my life.
"Security" features that add no security whatsoever and only exist for DRM reasons
Security for me, not for thee. At this point in my life windows is just too exploitative. I know a little about Linux, looks like it's time to learn.
My tipping point was actually how trigger-happy Windows Defender is about crack software and how you literally cannot meaningfully disable it without first breaking apart the entire OS. -- Only do a temporary turn-off that only lasts until the next time the computer is turned on. Or another less temporary turn-off that lasts until the next system update. Which. Fuck off. I can tell a feature that is working against me from how hard it is for me to get rid of it.
I won't be one of those liars who tells you "Linux is eaaaaaaaaasy, you'll get it in no time"
It's a skillset. You'll have to learn stuff. You'll have to browse wikis and ask for help on Discord servers and fucc around a lot. Plus it has this thing that when something works it works really well, and when something doesn't work, boy are you in for a capital-F-fun afternoon.
But it keeps me happy with how much I can customize my experience to my own personality, and how fast and smooth it is, even on my old, beat-up laptops.
Still keep a windows install around for those days when I need some application that doesn't exist on Linux, doesn't have a viable alternative, and won't play ball with Wine/Proton. But those are becoming rarer and rarer. Maybe one day I'll be rich enough to have a computer with several GPUs and I'll virtualize Windows instead of dual-booting it.
Not really, this screenshot is fake.
Microsoft Pluton has detected thought crimes in violations of Section 232 (17 U.S.C. § 381) on your device. Your IMEI and local audio-video recordings have been transfered to authorities for further inspection.
Microsoft Pluton sounds a lot like Google Ultron from the classic copypasta
They say "it's always greener on the other side". Can't say it in this case though. I'm using Arch Linux BTW.
On Arch, the grass is whatever color you configure it to be.
I use arch btw
How does Arch run in a laptop? I have a solid Windows laptop that that I'd like to test with Linux but I'm concerned about battery life. I've tried Ubuntu and Linux Mint but they seemed to drain battery like no other.
As a Linux Uber-amateur, it feels like we’re basically able to do anything I would want to do on Linux now… the thing where Microsoft tries to not allow you to download stuff because they haven’t paid Microsoft to sign it has always annoyed me. This would be the next level of nope.
One thing that’s kept me on the fence is I like multiplayer games, and I had always heard that battle eye didn’t work on Linux, but with all the proton development and steam deck interest, perhaps this is becoming a non issue?
Can you run any game you want on Linux yet? That's always been the main thing for me. I like my games, and I have a lot of them from new to going back to '85
If you use Steam like most people, check out protondb. It's not perfect as it only really shows off Steam games, but it's a good start. Steam will also let you add a non-steam game to your library and Proton will attempt to work with it, and in general it seems pretty good. The only issue you'll have is when you get to your super old games as the layer that Proton/Wine uses may not work, but for those you might as well just grab a VM and put a version of Windows on it that the game was built for.
If you click on "More info" you have the option to run it. You'll see a message indicating there's risk involved in doing so.
I switched to pop os recently and I'm never going back to Windows. It's easier now than ever to switch to Linux, even for gamers. Steam, proton, and wine have made running your Windows apps and games in Linux so easy. You'd have to have a very specific use case to justify staying with Windows now.
Here's a fun one: I own two video capture devices, an Elgato HD 60 S and an Avermedia LiveGamer Portable 2. Both do not work in Linux. I found a simple USB HDMI capture device that works in Linux and cost a fraction of what thosmother overhyped ones cost me. It works way better than they ever did. That was one of my last adjustments. I can still stream my Switch and PS5 on Twitch, no problem.
That's a pretty niche use case and it was easy.
Could you tell us exactly which simple USB HDMI capture device you found that works well in Linux?
I've been looking for one myself.
No problem! This one right here: https://a.co/d/5o60f87
I must admit, it's a little weird that it connects with a USB A to USB A cable, but it works great. Takes 4K input, has pass thru, ouputs 1080p 60 fps to OBS, no driver was needed. Just worked. Be sure to set it up in OBS to use YUY12 color space (emulated) and make sure your consoles have RGB range set to "limited" as this little guy doesn't play well with expanded/full. Don't worry, the image quality is still great. I streamed FFXIV and Zelda with it recently. Look at twitch.tv/littlecolt for my recent streams, they are all on this thing.
A good portion of popular multiplayer games doesn't work on Linux due to anticheat issues (R6S, Valorant, PUBG, Fortnite, CODs, BF2042, Destiny 2, Rust, Escape from Tarkov etc) so it's not as easy to switch to Linux just yet if you play any of those games. Not to mention lack of support from industry standard software such as Adobe etc.
I've never seen that particular "error" before, but juddging by how it looks you there's probably a run anyway button hidden under "more info".
Isn't this bypassed by clicking "More info" and the "Run" button appears?
I'm concerned about being able to run GNU/Linux on computers with Pluton chips, but I shouldn't get this hardware at home before the next decade. I'm trying to buy as much second-hand commodities as possible.
im telling you the second this gets introduced to windows is the second ill have a linux install USB.
Error
Microsoft Pluton prevented an unauthorized file from opening. You are prohibited from opening this file because it may contain an unauthorized operating system.
File name: ubuntu-22.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
You should have one already friend, start with something comfy like mint for a smooth transition.
Meh... just another reason added to a looong list about why I never looked back after switching to Linux, back when Vista was introduced.
I was your typical on-the-fence guy for years, installing Linux a couple of times a year, hopping between distros but eventually always returned to Windows. Those days are over for good. I learned to understand packages, dependencies and the basic tools to be able to understand and execute most troubleshooting. Still on an Apple laptop but once they pull similar shit with their telemetry that’s it.
The only thing preventing me from hopping back over to Linux is trying to reinstall my games. I've used it on and off for a few years and I loved it, but last time I had some issues with power and thought maybe Linux was doing something wonky (ended up being a PSU issue) and then Halo Infinite dropped and I wanted to play that.
In hindsight, both reasons were bad and I should have stayed on Linux.
Gaming on Linux has improved massively, especially over the last year. You should give it another try.
Microsoft can't be bothered to make a single, unified control panel but they have resources to work on shit like this.
There is gonna be easy fix for this in one second
Microsoft what?
Is this windows 11 or 10? That's absolutely wild, never seen it before.
Sounds like 11, but I have already seen how they try to block any app they don't like in w10 by calling it dangerous.
Must suck to be a Windows User
Common Microsoft L
I've never heard of microsoft pluton- that's why I wasnt talking about it
That's what you get for using windows - software that might allow you to use your computer.
Windows is malware.
why is nobody talking about a fake image? hmm
It’s an obvious fake
Because Windows is known to be malicious spyware, and you should consider not tolerating it any longer.
Fake
I remember a similar scare when Vista was coming out, and then nothing happened. Probably the tech wasn't ready then and now it is, that's why is so encouraging so see big progress in Linux gaming, just in case.
Edit: found a source for the Vista thing https://www.forbes.com/2007/02/10/microsoft-vista-drm-tech-security-cz_bs_0212vista.html?sh=38c0bc9e175e
And yes, we know the picture is fake, but the Pluton platform is real and the nefarious intentions can always be counted on.
What happens when you press More info?
You get the option to run the program
This is Microsoft we're talking about.
It takes you their website where you can read 2 paragraphs of bullshit that will in no way clarify anything.
Nope, if you press « more info », a button « run anyway » appears near the « don’t run ».
Holy crap. If this is real, this is gotta be the most dystopian thing I've seen so far. Time to switch OS and never look back.
Microsoft has a black list of file names including many KVM activators. I think “XVID” is what triggered this one
Lol imagine blacklisting file names
Way more likely "rip" or "HDrip" instead of XviD, which is (or used to be) a super common video codec. Like X264 today.
Yes. In order to run pirated content I had to run through a couple of hours of troubleshooting to disable the Microsoft anti-malware software, which would quarrantine and refuse to restore software without consent.
Pluton is a new name and may be Windows 11. Hopefully you can uninstall it with a third-party utility (windows utilities won't let you, and doing it by hand involves mucking around with the registry.l
I'm going to make the switch to Linux once I can brave it because Windows is malware and spyware and getting worse with each iteration.
If it took you a few hours to figure out how to play a pirated video then a Linux isn't for you.
No one likes gate keeping. Ideally Linux would be easy for people at any level to switch to.
its fake
It's not fake but it is confusing. Pluton is a chip mostly meant for cloud infrastructure. I believe some surface devices have it too but either way just don't use windows if you're sailing the high seas.
Yeah no... what is this? and where is this?
I'm on the latest stable version of W11 and I have tons of pirated content on my PC lmao
I've never gotten this message
I have seen similar message but not with that "unauthorized... of copyrighted material". How does it tell whether a file is copyrighted material or not?
It searches for the "You wouldnt download a car" ad.
I consider using windows as self-harm. It is a decision you make. I choose not to harm myself in this way, so this does not concern me.
As a Linux user no. As a trend that could catch on in general consumer devices.. yes
You are not authorized to view collateral_murder.mp4
because it contains unauthorized leaks of classified material. You're access has been reported.
I am access?
Yes, Microsoft exerting this sort of control over their operating system does deeply concern me which is why i switched to Linux and you should too
What distro do you run?
Ubuntu and more recently Pop!
I used to use a distro named "crunchbang"
It is because of rumors about Windows starting to implement this type of measures that I moved to Ubuntu… That was shortly before Windows Vista came out, back in 2006.
I never went back again, except briefly on an air-gaped machine under 7 to play Skyrim and Grim Dawn.
In other words, you switched out of fear of restrictions that still haven’t manifested nearly two decades later
confused k-lite codec noises.
Imagine using Windows in 2023
I'm primarily a PC gamer and so many games would not be accessible to me if I made the switch to Linux, not to mention quite a few programs I use for my job. I tried to make the switch a few times and was not able to because of this.
That's all changed. Checkout Protondb
https://9gag.com/gag/aE8LzN9 Has been posted here. Idk seems kinda odd.
Fuck, this worries me. Looks like my upcoming next PC build will exclude a Windows OS and opt for a Linux distribution.
Linux distros are still an operating system.