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One does not have freedom if anyone has power over one

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Why is you washing machine connected to anything to begin with? If you do not want that, you do not enable it.
- Your three free trial washes have expired, but you can continue using your washer for $20 per month*
  How many family members are in your home?
  Your account will be charged the going rate for each family member. This is for your safety. Because we said so, fuck you!
- The only possible reason for an Internet connected washing machine is to provide alerts when it is done or when it has failed.
  And honestly, if you need an alert on your phone to tell you when your washing machine has finished, you probably need to be more aware of your surroundings and learn how to prioritise tasks.
  
  The only possible reason for an Internet connected washing machine is to provide alerts when it is done or when it has failed.
  Mine just beep loudly when that happens, no internet needed.
  
  Yeah, it beeps loudly. Once.
  I love the notification on my phone that the wash is done. If I had to leave the house while something was in the wash I can leave the notification until I get home. Even if I'm busy working and want to deal with it later it's a great reminder. I was awful for leaving clothes in the wash for hours and sometimes overnight before I got a wifi connected washer and dryer.
  
  If only there was a way for something on your phone to remind you of an event that you know the precise time off.
  
  Precise? That's...not the word I'd use. My washing machines concept of time is vague at best and actively working against reality at worst.
  
  My friend, have you used a washing machine before?
  Mine spends 30 mins on 10 mins left
  
  Meanwhile I set my dryer for 45m and it's "done" in 20. So it takes a few tries before anything is actually dry
  
  Mine was doing that. Turned out my dryer vent was installed badly by the previous owner. Was made of flexible hose instead of rigid and was too narrow in some spots. Built it right and the dryer doesn't need multiple runs anymore.
  
  Huh, interesting. I'll look into that, thanks!
  
  you probably need to be more aware of your surroundings and learn how to prioritise tasks.
  To be fair there's a non-negligible percentage of the population who have neuro-divergencies making that a tall order. For example, apparently it could be as high as 1 in 10 people have some form of ADHD.
  I'm not sure I've got anything actually clinically wrong with me, but I've got the memory of a sieve and a tendency to lose track of time. So I can definitely see the benefit there, and imagine it might be even more of a game changer for people actually with those conditions
  
  Like most of the Neurodivergant individuals my age, I was never diagnosed.
  For this reason, I was very lucky and fortunate that my older brother and peer group kept an eye out and kept reminding me to pay attention to my surroundings.
  Nowadays, I use my learned skill of hyper awareness of my surroundings, combined with my innate over-analysis of problems to anticipate problems before they develop.
  Neurodivergence is a gift, allowing you to see things that neuro-normative people don’t, as well as a curse. If you overcome the curse through discipline and training, as well as support of those around you, you will end up as better person.
  If you keep saying “I’m on the spectrum so I don’t have to adhere to social norms”, you will only ever be neurodivergent.
  
  Then work against you faults to make yourself better.
  That's not an excuse. It's going to be harder for you then for some - tough cookie.
  If someone had tendency to, IDK, cut themselves, the attitude shouldn't be "oh so sad" but helping them to change.
  
  Right, that might be the case for me (though I'm not sure how I'm supposed to significantly improve my memory, everyone's gets worse with age, kinda a fact of life)
  But for the percentage of people with neuro-divergencies where this could help, surely this would be them working against their faults? Using appropriate tools to make their lives easier is a much more viable solution than telling someone to change something about themselves that they ultimately might not be able to.
  You wouldn't tell a leg amputee to figure out how to hop around, you'd tell them to get crutches or a prosthetic.
  
  Thank you.
  I'm pretty active in ADHD spaces and seeing "then try to improve" set my teeth on edge.
  I grew up with assholes trying to tell me to just "work on it." Makes me crazy we live in the future and there are still people so entitled that they'll tell disabled people "tough cookie."
  
  "Don't accept accomodations for things you could use help with, just git gud scrub" is one of the more ablist things I've seen on Lemmy. Congrautlations on being the biggest fucking prick I've seem today.
  
  Two reasons I use it:
  Washing machine is not in my home, I walk through my garden to get to it. I'm lazy so I want to know when it's finished before I get disappointed. Either via mobile or tv.
  I can turn it on when my solar panels are at their highest output. Which is very handy when I'm at work for example. I just load it up and when it's good to go I turn it on.
  So, data like this is very bad. But I do see a use in the internet connection
  
  WiFi is enough to do that, no need for Internet? Unless you need to know that while away...? But a simple timer (analog or digital) would also be 95 % as accurate. Not like the program runs 30 minutes too long.
  
  I could see this maybe being useful... but for the Gods please just make it a local network thing, you shouldn't need this when you aren't home. If for any reason I need my fucking washing machine outside my local net, it'll be open source (or just custom made) and forwarded via tunneling to my domain that costs me a grand total of $4 a year.
  
  A friend has a washing machine where you can put all your stuff in, schedule it to finish at [time you're back from work] so you can immediately hang it up to dry. That ones wifi connected.
  Maybe that also works without Internet but I've only seen that feature on those connected to the Internet.
  
  My 10 year old machine can do that. No need for internet. Just set an end time. I would think basically every washing machine could do that unless you get the cheapest model around?
  
  I feel like every washing machine I've used in my conscious lifetime has had an end timer.
  
  On the Uber budget end it's not an option.
  And while I haven't been shopping for one, the few times a glanced inside the home center over the last year, they all were WiFi connected.
  Even my living room TV, if I don't hook it up to WiFi, has an annoying blinking light asking you to hook it up.
  It's an industry problem, not a consumption problem.
- Probably because it refuses to wash if it isn't.
  
  Then return it. Only reasonable option there is once you actually bought it.
- My washer and dryer have a whole host of features and settings locked behind connecting it to the internet. I haven't connected it and won't but I could see how those settings could be useful for big families, people with sensory needs (my cousin is autistic and has a autoimmune disorder, and his clothes have to have the right amount of softness, scent, and cleanliness.) it took his mom years to find the perfect amount of chemicals, wash time, and dry time to get his clothing right for him to wear without hurting him. I showed her the options on my units and they totally would make her life easier.
  I wish those features weren't packed with ads, had no potential to brick the appliances, and weren't capturing data but for those that don't care. Ya totally use them.

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