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Adobe's ToS changes could be an AI overreach on user data

appleinsider.com Adobe's ToS changes could be an AI overreach on user data

A new and mandatory terms of service approval for Adobe Creative Cloud requires users agree to the company getting free access to users' projects, for whatever they want to do with it. That's unacceptable.

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Time to switch to Linux 😁👍 (there are plenty of Adobe alternatives for it, although they don't necessarily offer 100% replacements). I'm convinced that Adobe is one of the major reasons that people stick with windows. If worse comes to worse you can run windows on Linux using a virtual machine (and believe you me, if I can do it then you can too).

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- Time to switch to Linux 😁👍 (there are plenty of Adobe alternatives for it,
  
  Unfortunately this is not really true. I think people who say "just use GIMP" have only ever used PS to open and crop images. Inkscape is also nowhere near Illustrator, and Scribus feels more like QuarkXpress circa 1998 than a viable InDesign replacement.
  
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  I have to agree. I've used a great many software packages over the years, but having been given an Adobe Creative Cloud subscription by my university, as several of Adobe's programs are required for the degree I'm doing, I've been very annoyed to discover that the alternatives really aren't on the same level. They work, sure. You can get the job done with them. But I am genuinely finding Photoshop to be significantly more powerful than everything else I've used. And it's really annoying because I've never liked Adobe as a company.
  
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  I feel like Linux alternatives often falter by trying to offer as extensive of a feature set as the proprietary options. GIMP would be better if it simplified it's menu's and focused on offering a strong central feature set, then expand on that core over time to offer a powerful workflow of it's own.
  
  I noticed this especially with FreeCAD, which is trying to do like 12 things for some reason? Just offer intuitive parametric cad and focus on it. We don't need OpenSCAD inside FreeCAD because OpenSCAD is already it's own thing for example.
  
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  I'm curious about what you think is missing from Inkscape. I use it and illustrator for design work all the time, and I've never run into issues with something missing from Inkscape.
  
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  Pirate
  
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  What I'm hearing is Scribus would be suitable if I'm deliriously tired and thinking in Quark 4.x shortcuts.
  
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  What features do you feel are lacking? I don't think GIMP has full CMYK support yet, but I believe they're working on it.
  
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- This was very much me, and for a rather stupid reason: My resume was in InDesign.
  
  It would have served me well to realize InDesign resumes are a bad idea to get past ATS years ago, but I eventually came around.
  
  I can still fire up CS6 in a VM; for my needs, CC never made sense. Like, seriously, for ID, layers and transparency and trapping and anything else I might need for offset or digital is taken care of. Illustrator has a competent Live Trace feature. Photoshop has the magnetic lasso, which is about as advanced as I need to get past cropping and toning. Audition lets me make really bad mashups.
  
  The only subscription I have that is not a utility or insurance is Mullvad. I don't want to rent anything on my computer, thank you very much. Yarr!
  
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- I agree. The problem is there are too many people who make excuses for switching which wouldn’t exist if they just actually switched. Saying the alternatives suck compared to Adobe products…well if everyone stopped using Adobe products today and all switched to the various other software out there that does run on Linux, I guarantee you within a year, they would be all on par with the Adobe products because they would finally have the financial backing necessary to accomplish that goal.
  
  Adobe still exists simply because they are a behemoth due to existing for 40 years. People have choice, even professionals, even businesses.
  
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- @hedge
  I love Affinity Photo, Designer, and Publisher... They are a powerful Adobe replacement.
  
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Since it's been mentioned a lot this week because of these changes, here's David Revoy's guide to a fully FOSS professional digital painting setup, not perfect because many, MANY things aren't working as they should yet (both the move to Wayland and to Appimage/Flatpak have complicated things and lots is broken), but he guides you to a setup that works today.

There's also the option of different commercial stuff (The Affinity suite, DaVinci products, etc.), but i'm a bit biased

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And everyone was so angry, they kept giving Adobe's monopoly obscene amounts of money via overpriced subscriptions.

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It could also be a normal overreach on user data.

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