1 yr. ago • 96%

Not the hero we deserve, but the one we need.

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We just don't learn, do we?

Stop putting celebrities on a pedestal.

This bullshit celebrity hero worship has to stop. Fran was funny (and quite fetching) on The Nanny. What she is doing during the strike is great and all, but she is also anti-vaxx.

This is the problem that happens when our society puts these celebrities on a higher level than everyone else. Appreciate the work they have done on and off screen, but realize that they are just human and in the case of Fran, she is a little loopy when it comes to vaccine issues. She's not someone we should look up to. None of these celebrities are. Look up to your dad or a fireman or that really good social studies teacher you had in 6th grade.

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- Stop expecting perfection.
  
  Nobody is perfect. MLK had affairs, the founding fathers owned slaves, Churchill was racist AF, etc.
  
  She’s doing a great job now and we can educate her the same way we turned Obama from anti-gay marriage.
  
  We should judge people OVERALL not on stuff like being anti-vax (which to be clear is dumb).
  
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  I don't expect perfection...? Being anti-vax is a big deal to me. That's not a harmless ideology. It's moronic and anti-science. This isn't just some little thing I disagree with it's, in my opinion, a huge moral and intellectual failure. I think it's completely fair that this gets brought up because it's directly relevant.
  
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  No!
  
  If even ONE thought in her head disagrees with MY world view then she is useless and NEEDS to be destroyed!
  
  /s
  
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  Stop expecting perfection.
  
  That is a great way of saying it.
  
  If you look at some of the biggest figures of our past in world history, the vast majority of them had some kind of vice or did some kind of thing or participated in some kind of event that would have gotten them cancelled in today's world. It is ridiculous to what standards we hold people today, but in the end, they are just that - PEOPLE. Highly flawed individuals, just like you and I and everyone here. That doesn't change the fact that they changed history (for better or worse) in one way or another. The problem comes when society then elevates them to some demi-god level and then everyone gets all flustered when that extra-marital affair or off-color joke or comments about some topic comes to light.
  
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  Now thats a very good opinion that I totally endorse.
  
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- So what you're saying is
  
  All hail Sarah Silverman
  
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  Oh god, what did Sarah Silverman do?
  
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- Yeah. Put me on a pedestal instead. I've got some nice ideas. Like what if we made a car with a square steering wheel? I mean we won't know the downsides until we try.
  
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  And after you take a turn, the downsides will change anyway!
  
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- I don't know man. My dad, my teacher and the fireman have no public presence so they won't be the face of any media workers' strike. And at least one of the above is also an anti-vaxx and/or an asshole. This lady is just doing her role and I don't think it makes much sense to undermine her work on this subject because her poor takes on others.
  
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  But isn't that what our society does these days? Or at least certain segments of it.
  
  They take someone who is X and then elevate them to some unreasonably high status that no one person should attain, and then that same society drops them like they're a hot potato when they find out that the person isn't perfect.
  
  To be clear, I don't disagree with your take. We shouldn't be undermining someone's work because of some stupid opinion on this or dumb decision to do that.
  
  But think about what's become a rather popular event over the last couple of years. Some actor gets shunned for saying some stupid shit about vaccines. There has been a whole rash of events where statues of people long dead have been taken down. Buildings dedicated to certain people were renamed. Columbus - the poor guy's legacy has been dragged through the mud because of people who can't separate the fact that he was a great explorer but he was also a bit of a douchebag.
  
  We need to stop elevating these people to the level of a deity, and then we won't be shocked to find out the person was just human and a bit of a womanizer or a prick about money or he didn't like certain groups all that much. Praise them for their singing or acting or the new world they explored.
  
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- God if there was one message I could forcefully implant into society as a whole it's this. Well said.
  
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  Don't put anyone on a pedestal. Not politicians, not celebrities', not twitch streamers, not your girlfriend. You can love, respect and even like people, but don't worship anyone, it leaves you blind to their faults and it's a pain in the ass being the one on the pedestal in a relationship.
  
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- Stop putting celebrities on a pedestal.
  
  Unless it's me, right? 🥰
  
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  Hello, it's me, your pedestal. Please sit on my face.
  
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  Well of course, but that’s a given assumption
  
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  ...and you are??
  
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- What if Fran Dresscher is my dad?
  
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  She might teacher 6th grade social studies too! Shit. You found a loophole.
  
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- It's just a shitpost. Why so serious?
  
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- Everyone is a little loopy though. We’re all some flavor of hypocrite too.
  
  I don’t mind celebrities being on a pedestal, because it is a common reference point for us all when discussing virtue or lack thereof.
  
  We just all need to be reminded that they are still human and stupid in their own way.
  
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- But my dad is anti-vax and racist. I’m trading up!
  
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- I only look up to superheros like Karl Marx or Xi Jinping
  
  -24
  
  Shut up, nerd
  
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  Stay in lemmygrad where you belong.
  
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I don't get it

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- Fran Drescher is president of SAG-AFTRA and leading the strike against, amongst other things, studios wanting to use AI to replace actors and writers.
  
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- Fran Drescher, the woman on the right, is the spokesperson for the current strike in Hollywood, where writers and actors are trying to force the studios to agree to not use AI in upcoming productions. To clarify, she's the current head of SAG/AFTRA, which is the screen actors guild (union).
  
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  We should also add that she used to be the star of a sitcom called The Nanny in the 90s and hasn't been heard of much since, so it was a big surprise to a lot of people (me included) when it turned out she's been really active behind the scenes.
  
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The Nanny being the one to lead the charge vs Skynet is the exact shit I expect from this current clown timeline.

And I'm fine with it. Fran Drescher is awesome.

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- She's an antivax conspiracy chud. Reserve your praise.
  
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  Select your praise. You can praise her pro-SAG action without having to also praise or even care about her anti-vax postures.
  
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  Right now she's fucking up Hollywood billionaires. If true then I'm willing to use her like we used the Soviets in WW2.
  
  The greater good
  
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- She's passionate and she cares.
  
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- Fran is constantly fighting for people’s rights. I love her.
  
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Okay but I think we can all agree Fran Drescher is THE baddest bitch after having watched her impassioned call to arms.

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I don't know who that is.

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- I didn't either until this thread. Fran Drescher is the current president of the screen actors guild and I assume this has something to do with the writers strike. I guess AI content like images and stories, plus their own likeness and brands, is an issue in the strike.
  
  I'm not paying any attention to the writers strike because I haven't really consumed any new hollywood movies or tv shows in quite a while. Hollywood just isn't relevant anymore and they know it, there's just too much content online and other things to keep busy for me to care about their garbage.
  
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  Fran is quite well known for her role in The Nanny, and a pertinent scene is one where she fights not to cross a picket (strike) line, and her employer forces her across.
  
  So a lot of us who remember this scene are all having a little extra giggle about the whole deal.
  
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  I see what they're getting at. Yeah I don't really watch anything either!
  
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  I mean, if you want to post an irrelevant opinion that doesn't reflect that of the majority's, you should've gone to unpopularopinion
  
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- left:
  
  lead actress in the Terminator movies - Linda Hamilton
  
  right:
  
  Fran Drescher, lead actress in "The Nanny" from the 90s. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000376/ as well as other things, of course. but this is what i remember her from.
  
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- She's in the greatest film ever created: UHF.
  
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  Let's not forget The Hollywood Knights.
  
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- I think it's about the Hollywood actors' strike.
  
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- Chandler's on and off girlfriend
  
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  HAA-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A CHYAAANDLYUUUR!!!
  
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The highly nasal voice that strike fear into the hearts of machines everywhere.

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- For a long time I thought she played Janice on friends
  
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  Do you mean to tell me that she doesn't play Janice on Friends?
  
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Bobbi Flekman confronted the sexism in the Spinal Tap album "Smell the Glove" back when she worked artist relations for Polymer Records in 1982. She has known for years that "Money talks, and bullshit walks"

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- She confronted it again in UHF. And kicked it.
  
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Off topic but she sounded hoarse AF. I dunno if it's from recent screaming or a pack-a-day habit but it caught me off guard.

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Fran Drescher is such a baddie, all else aside.

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