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Will There Be Bananas Under Socialism?

nymag.com Will There Be Bananas Under Socialism?

The most important question facing the American left today.

Apparently this was an actual discourse going around.

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  • Capitalism is the thing that killed the last staple crop species of banana and it's what's killing this one. I say socialism is the only way we will keep having bananas.

    No seriously, one of them has already gone extinct due to irresponsible farming practices and the current one is on that path too!

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  • Lol kinda funny because bananas are in real risk of extinction ( at least the cavendish banana, which is the one you get at ur supermarket and widely cultivated in latin america ) thanks to a root disease called 'panama virus'. All banana trees are clones so they are very susceptible to root diseases, it already killed the more tasty gros michel variety banana.

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  • There will only be one banana and everyone will have to share.

    Bonus: If you are in possession of the People's Banana and the People's Toothbrush at the same time you get on free spin on the magic prize wheel.

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    • If you possess the People's Toothbrush and the People's Banana and the People's Stick you become Supreme Leader General Secretary of the Communist Party of the United People's Republic of the Solar System

      We could make a Zelda-like game with that

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      • Tbf "Supreme Leader General Secretary of the Communist Party of the United People’s Republic of the Solar System" is a dope ass title.

        Also if I didn't suck at programming, meme communist games would be something I could see myself doing.

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  • Communism is when potassium deficiency

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    • Eh, just eat potatoes or something. They have over twice the potassium content per serving than a banana. Heck there's actually dozens of other foods that have way higher potassium content than them. Even dandelions have more potassium than bananas.... A literal weed. haha

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      • I wonder why potassium would get associated with this fruit that doesn't totally have a yk what.

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      • Yeah but who wants to eat dandelions? And potatoes get boring fast.

        Having a sweet fruit thats extremely cheap and accessable helps fit the niche.

        You don’t need to cook a banana to eat it and it takes under a minute to eat one.

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  • Yes. Reminder to liberals and anarchists, socialism and international trade aren't mutually exclusive.

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  • No! They are the fruit of the bourgeois! And no, I won't elaborate.

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  • Fruit bearing ancap colours? Nuh uh😠.

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  • I'm not reading through that entire article (which is just Twitter discourse in article form), but honestly, that question itself seems badly posed.

    Obviously, socialists aren't going to introduce a policy like "No more bananas" or "We must have bananas at any costs". In a country where bananas don't grow, availability of bananas will depend on desire to import bananas, and another country being willing to sell you bananas. I vaguely remember something about bananas being rare in the GDR because there were few friendly countries that grew bananas (though that might have been an anti-communist source, or plain made up, I don't know, but it doesn't sound too unrealistic). Availability of bananas will depend on the circumstances you're building socialism under.

    From that article:

    Although he does not identify as a “degrowther,” Harris rejects the “pro-growth” left’s suggestion that the American consumer’s preferences are sacrosanct.

    I have no idea what this discourse is, but this line bothers me so much. Imagine caring about "American consumer's preferences". This is so stupid. If socialism ever somehow manages to take power in the USA, they really must work on changing societal attitude. US society, its values, its ways of thought reflect the worst that capitalism and imperialism have to offer. Socialism cannot succeed if these ways of thought go unaddressed. And whatever bullshit led to "I am consoomer and I am owed banana" is one of the things that have to go.

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    • Similarly, we shouldn’t just ban meat, but have its price reflect its environmental impact so that can be dealt with and reduced rather than externalized like the profit motive would dictate. It’s absurd and unnatural for corn and beef to be so cheap and subsidized in the US. It’s far more reasonable for a burger to be $50 like in Venezuela than $5 in the US.

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      • But this shouldn’t then apply only meat. Items like almonds and alfalfa should also reflect their absurd environmental impact and detriment to the world.

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      • Same with gas powered cars, over time it’ll become to expensive to fill up your car and people will switch to a cheaper alternative

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  • The most important question facing the American left today.

    If true, that says much more about the state of the American left than it does about the importance of the question.

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  • I’m just going to say it:

    Bananas are mid.

    No, I don’t want them to go extinct, obviously.

    Banana bread, however, is fantastic.

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    • I’d highly recommend trying to find an “actual banana” (might be a bit expensive) or trying an actual banana if you ever go to a tropical region.

      The bananas in grocery stores are mid at best. Actual bananas are absurdly sweet, delicate, and delicious. You can get them by the kilo for pennies in many nations and there’s a reason they’re a large part of many peoples diets in tropical regions.

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      • I thought I saw somewhere that there was only one species of Banana left which are the mid ones available in grocery stores. I don’t know if there are any “actual bananas” available where I live but if I manage to travel outside of Canada one day I’ll definitely try out the tropical bananas

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    • I agree bananas are totally mid. I wouldn’t even like the real actual bananas that are sweet either because at that point it would be too sweet to have on its own and I’d need to buy something else to mix it with. Idk I’m pretty damn picky

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  • I don't think bananas will go extinct just because crapitalism ceases to exist

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