The real fuck spez would be a blank canvas. He doesn't care what we write on there as long as he's getting clicks and engagement
144Is that why their valuation keeps falling?
I mean I get the idea, but it's not accurate in practice. When your commodity is your community and your community is showing nothing but disrespect towards your plans and authority, you become a very volatile investment.
See: Twit- sorry, X. See X for example.
User engagement doesn't help as much as a literally mutinous userbase hurts.
58We can please not bring the "we did it Reddit!" culture to Lemmy?
Reddit is a privately held company. Their valuation is falling because someone at Fidelity arbitrarily said so. Right now, given the current economic trends, almost every consumer tech company is taking a beating (Discord, Substack, etc), so in the larger context Reedit's drop in valuation is expected and smart money is expecting it to rise once the economy becomes hot and more investors have money to risk on consumer companies.
The biggest value of a social media is the influence it has on culture and society as a whole, which is why advertisers want to get in on the action (think of Facebook influencing elections). Engaging on the platform and even constantly talking about the platform is a great sign of it's lasting influence.
So no, spending an hour putting pixels on r/place is not a great way to stick it to Reddit. Constantly talking about Reddit and basically giving it free ad-space and mind share on Lemmy also does not stick it to Reddit. The original poster is correct: best thing is a blank canvas.
And ignore all the click-bait articles about how Reddit is going to fall any day now. They all basically play on your wishful thinking for clicks, they aren't based on reality.
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its over for reddit right now, and this r/place doesnt change it no matter how much traffic they get from this, its temporary, once it ends, it dissapears, so i dont think having some fun will hurt lemmy or will make spez win
9Honestly, even if the whole lemmy.world (for example) joins, it won't matter. The bots and streamers (and their fanbase) alone outnumber us too much for us to even make a dent on their traffic. People here are grossly underestimating the number of bots and reddit users. Like they think because some protestors join it's suddenly going to drastically shoot their engagement numbers up. Lol.
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bots?
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Germany dashing eastwards. Some things never change.
139Gave me a good chuckle
7Traditions.
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They've had so many opportunities to advertise a competitor to migrate to, but instead they keep paying this guy to insult him.
63Rage is profitable!
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I do like to see it-- and I'm not with all these negative lemmings, a handful of people jumping on Reddit isn't a big deal since we're talking millions of users (and by the way it's healthier for Lemmy to not shun double dippers, not everyone's communities have migrated).
Also, having moonlit at a social media company, I can say shortsighted folks do jerk off to engagement metrics, usually traffic and interactions. Doesn't change a death spiral, and usually more experienced staff know to take it in context (I e. Is it lower than last time) so either you have dumb staff relaying bad information to the top or you have smart staff panicking, quiet quitting, etc.
In other words, folks need to relax. Reddit will do reddit things; just take comfort that you're not alone in the fuck spez mentality.
57Another thing I keep forgetting to add is the exposure. I'm honestly shocked at how mamy people are ignorant to the protests. A lot of them don't even know who spez is. Even if they don't leave reddit, they'd at least have an idea of what reddit is becoming.
Would they care? Maybe not. But they can't even decide for themselves if they don't even know wtf is going on.
19Right! Although that's mildly astounding given it was so unavoidable on like, every subreddit. But yeah, I remember seeing out of the loop messages months into the protests. Hell, even local news covered it here. Lol
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There was never more than about 10 of us on the chat. It was an exceedingly small operation with a pretty good impact IMO.
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Spez seeing this
56Lots of people saying this is playing right into reddit's hands, but can someone explain this reasoning to me please? People click on a pixel and reddit profits... how exactly?
Like this isn't going to bring back their mods or power users, they've burned those bridges already and the exodus of lurkers is just a matter of time at this point. I don't see how making some pixels say "fuck spez" helps them.
14It drives active users and increases activity on the site. Reddit tracks site usage metrics, and active user count + engagement are two of the most important metrics, since more active users = more eyeballs on ads, and more engagement = more ads that can be placed in front of those eyeballs.
The fact that the majority of the new active users are bot accounts that can't be advertised to is secondary, since the people who would invest in a reddit IPO wouldn't typically look that deep, they'd just look at the top line metrics and go "oh, there's a big bump on activity, this is a healthy website."
15You go to the site and see an ad on the way. Reddit profits.
Reddit turns around to their investors during their IPO and say "look at how many people flooded to our site to engage with r/place." Reddit profits.
People see the chaos and decide to add your two cents to the canvas. The cycle repeats. Reddit profits.
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33People keep talking about this, but the number of new accounts even if they are bots, probably look great for reddit's IPO.
This is all in pursuit of that all mighty dollar. This was not a random surprise at all.
24I think they're allowing new accounts a week of age, compared to a year in the past iterations. It all about boosting those engagement numbers.
6@TeamAssimilation Last time they allowed brand new accounts to engage, I don't remember if they did in 2017 or not.
4Build up even more for the next one too...
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There's a sucker born every minute but I personally don't think this is a sign that anyone should buy their stock
2For sure, they have a serious problem with how to monetize their user base, but if someone asks "Well after the exodus"... they'll just turn around and say "At the end of July we had the most user ever interacting with our system, our future is healthy.
Honestly, reddit is going to become a more decrepit place over the next five years, especially with this IPO. It's turning point hasn't happened yet, but it's definitely starting to move towards it.
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What is this stupid giant red square trying to cover it up
21That’s a russian streamer. Typical.
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Imagine cementing yourself into history as such a complete asshole that you were a critical catalyst for a movement towards decentralization.
19How on earth the admins thought this was a good idea, haha.
19They don't care if people write "fuck spez" or "join lemmy." They only care that people are engaging with reddit.
25I mean it's getting them a ridiculous amount of traffic right now.
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It starts like that and then the people running scripts and other power players take over
14The people making that (netherlands, germany etc.) are using scripts themselves. So, it should be possible.
9Germany published some stats on their Discord about two days ago - IIRC they have around 3k bot users and the bots usually "just" correct some pixels on specific artworks, while their total user number is around 90k.
Most of them use an overlay though, that helps with the pixel placement.
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It’s quickly getting overwritten by white dots
10Oh shit they erased half of it..
7Pretty sure they just added a bunch of pixels to the side, the rest should still be untouched. Well, as untouched as it ever is.
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Imagine a c/place? Or does Reddit own a patent for the concept of giant pixel art maps?
6there's already a thing called pixelcanvas.. except it runs forever
idk how old it is but I remember messing with it in 2020
they changed it up after place 2022 tho.
older pixels used to have more cooldown, and the center used to be at 0,0...
but now cooldown is 60 seconds near the center and the center is at 10k7I considered ways to do it, but without implementing it in Lemmy code, there is no way to do it...
3Or m/place ...but that's the point with federation it is just another website, it's just https://pixelplace.io/
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Is this for real? Holy crap that's amazing
4Why is it fuck Spex and not Fuck Reddit?
4Because spez is the one in charge.
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The world agrees: Fuck Spez! R/place Fuck Spez pixels
4Fuck Steven.
3The white void returns to consume everything again
1Who cares
-2Congrats on visiting /r/place and being part of the problem.
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