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r/pcmasterrace morons attempting an anti-Linux meme

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I guess, all depends on what type of driver you're installing; but I had to install win10 on my brother's PC last week, these are the steps I had to take to install AMD's drivers (because the ones included with windows suck):

Open Edge.

Download Opera (his browser of choice) and install it.

Google "AMD Drivers", go to the website

Lookup the exact model of the processor: "Ryzen 3 3200G".

Try to guess what fucking .exe file to download, since their descriptions are vague.

Double click the .exe.

next, deselect bloatware, next, install.

Error on installation

Lookup error code.

Turns out Windows was downloading (not installing) an update at the same time, without telling me.

Wait 15 minutes for windows to finish doing whatever it wants to do, without user consent.

Reboot machine.

Try again. Next, next, deselect bloatware, next, install

Reboot machine again.

(OPTIONAL) Curse Bill Gates, Steve Balmer and Satya Nadella for making me waste my time.
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  I'll bite. What printer drivers are 5G? HP universal driver is 22MB.
  
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- I. Fucking. LOATHE Windows updates and the shenanigans they cause. Flames of hate!
  
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- I don't know why it's become a stigma that installing things on Linux is hard when Windows requires you to Google sketchy .exes and .msis because their app store is so trash. For 99% of packages on Linux you can just open the software manager and click install.
  
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  Because Windows doesn't require you to google sketchy .exes and .msis....
  
  Unless you just consider them inherently sketchy, but can't really do anything about that. Hell the backlash for the store was mainly because people wanted to keep using .exes's.
  
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- I have a w10 PC and an Nvidia card. You install NVidia GeForce Experience and click "download", then "install".
  
  For AMD, you would install AMD Catalyst and do the same.
  
  No bloatware for either.. don't do things the hard way!
  
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  nVidia drivers also contain on-by-default telemetry you just installed willingly.
  
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  You must log in into geforce to use it=spyware
  
  Give me my driver and nothing more
  
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  well, GeForce Experience IS bloatware IMO, so... I'm screwed that way, I guess.
  
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  Don’t even need GeForceExperience. You can download the driver installation exe directly from Nvidia without installing the bloatware.
  
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Next next finish

Wait, why the fuck are there three new icons on my desktop? What is this bullshit in the tray?

What the fuck is nvidiaupdatechecker.exe and why is is consuming 10% of my cpu?

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- Why do I have to create an account an log in to install a driver?
  
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- Aaaand blue screen.
  
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- Literally none of that happens to me on Windows.
  
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Lot of confirmation bias on both sides in this thread.

Linux, you need to streamline that shit

Windows, you need to stop being windows.

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- streamline that shit
  
  Or mainline that shit --- for me, "true" Linux support means drivers are in the mainline kernel, and will Just Work. Not sure I've ever had problems with drivers for an RS232 dongle on Linux, but I definitely have under Windows.
  
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Windows is more like

Run exe

Next

No don't install chrome

No don't install antivirus

No don't install toolbar

Yes I read the agreement

Install

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- Yes I read the agreement
  
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  iTunes? I prefer the Amazon Lumberyard terms
  
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- …. Well, windows might have an ulterior motive…. But it’d right about not installing chrome. Firefox, my friend.
  
  Granted windows is also line “no don’t install Firefox!”
  
  Also windows driver installs babe a 50/50 chance of still not working.
  
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Windows: "driver for graphics card not found. Go fuck yourself."

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- Fuck it, here’s an ad.
  
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- Actually, I got an error "Cannot install Windows, missing (graphics) drivers". Debian Live did boot without any problem, though.
  
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- yeah graphics driver support on windows is notoriously far worse than on the tertiary afterthought that is linux
  
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  u mad?
  
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- What card?? I've literally never seen this in 20-30 years.
  
  Most cards are made with Windows in mind first and foremost.
  
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- Never happens. I've never had a video card fail to work with Windows right away.
  
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  I believe I am mistaken, yes. I had a cpu fail, and never got it to work, no matter what I did.
  
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I don't remember the last time I had to manually install a driver on Linux.

But I do remember the last time I had to manually install a driver on Windows. I had to revert the change in safe mode, because it wouldn't boot after the install. To be fair to Windows, it was an old PS/2 to USB adaptor. To be fair to the adaptor, it was plug-and-play on OpenSuse, Mint, and Fedora.

Edit: it was Win10 21H1, I believe.

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MacOS: It just works

Linux: It just works*

Windows: Download the drivers online and hope it works and isn't a buggy mess

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I had Windows literally delete my graphics drivers because it decided to download "new" ones (read: the default fallback driver) and made me unable to play anything. And when I went through the trouble of figuring out how to get AMD's software center to redownload it, Windows did it again.

On an unrelated note, that happened on my second-to-last day of using Windows.

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Hahahahahahahaha hell no My Nvidia experience on windows required me to setup a whole ass nvidia account just to get access to the crappy nvidia software to install the drivers

My Nvidia experience on fedora was sudo dnf install akmod-nvidia

Not to mention the utterly useless auto driver install from windows which would either:

fail to find drivers meaning I had to go search for them on google

download the driver release from 2 years ago

use some generic Microsoft driver (goto option 1)

overwrite my manually installed latest driver (goto option 1)
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oh, don't mind me, i'm just over here using my graphics tablet that linux came with drivers for and which worked out of the box (including pressure sensing) as soon as i plugged it in, and printing on my printer which CUPS auto-detected and went from new laptop to printing in 30 seconds, and which i have never had any issues with

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Glass houses and all that.

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No, that's about how it is on Linux.

Some drivers just work. Others? Absolute pain in the ass. If it doesn't work on first boot you're probably screwed.

Source: my laptops audio still doesn't work with Linux.

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- None of those commands install drivers on linux tho. What audio driver couldn't you install?
  
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  It looks like the OP was trying to shorthand (not show entirely)
  ->Just updating Ubtuntu to see if it fixes the issue
  ->cloning a github repo and then trying to build a driver themselves
  ->Checking with modprobe to see if it worked (I don't remember the command clearly, I've only actually done this once like 2 years ago)
  
  The syntax error at the end is probably more for dramatic effect and would've occurred when trying to make the repo. But at the bare minimum using Apt to update->upgrade your distro would update a driver if it was already installed and just outdated.
  
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unorc

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open terminal ↑ maybe a couple times... password enter

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Well... they are right.

Downvote for use of word "morons".

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- Judging by your votes I think you might want to invest more time in learning to communicate unambiguously.
  
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