Half of Americans see Donald Trump as a fascist: POLL
Half of Americans see Donald Trump as a fascist: POLL
Half the country sees Donald Trump as a fascist in a new ABC News/Ipsos poll, amplifying concerns recently raised by Kamala Harris and past Trump administration members.
Half the country sees former President Donald Trump as a fascist, amplifying concerns raised in recent days by Vice President Kamala Harris and past members of Trump's own administration. Far fewer in a new ABC News/Ipsos poll level the same charge against Harris.
Nearly two-thirds also say Trump often departs from the truth, again more than say so about Harris. But Harris gets more criticism than Trump for pandering for votes by promoting policies she doesn't intend to carry out -- underscoring challenges for both candidates as the fur flies in their increasingly heated presidential race.
The fact that it’s only half is mind boggling
143Remember that ~40% have been told that fascism, communism, socialism, and the Democratic party are all the same for the last 40+ years by "news" organisations.
93That's what makes their messaging so effective. They just mislabel all sorts of shit so words lose all meaning.
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My understanding from my remaining MAGA friend is that they're fed a steady diet of "liberals believe crazy theories" all day long from all the sources they're allowed. e.g. if liberals believe a thing there's absolutely no way it can be true.
Now the fact that this circumvents reason and agency are (apparently) irrelevant.
12e.g. if liberals believe a thing there's absolutely no way it can be true.
This kind of thinking is what will be the downfall of humanity. Already is happening.
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And of that half, some are voting for him because of it.
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Nearly two-thirds also say Trump often departs from the truth
JFC this is way too low.
79Such a softball way of putting it. More like “lies every time he breathes”.
33Even the softball way can't get 2/3!
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And yet a good chunk of that 2/3 is willing to vote for him anyways.
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The problem is that half of America likes fascism.
67Fascism thrives on establishing an "In" group that has all the power and all the rights, and an "Out" group that gets nothing but suffering and is scapegoated for everything. You can guess which group that half thinks they'll be a part of.
30This. Half of America likes fascist ideas, but don't want to to support THE WORD "fascism" since that's a bad word. Fucking idjits.
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This would be big news if having a majority actually mattered.
37Meanwhile %90 europe sees Trump a fascist
32Unfortunately not true. When I look at how many people have been voting on the right recently. For example among AfD voters in Germany (which got 30% in some areas), Trump is still very popular. The cancer is rampant here too.
15I think it's wrong to think that because the right supports Trump that they don't think he's a fascist. A significant portion of those on the right support Trump because they think he's a fascist.
The important questions are, of the Americans who think Trump is a fascist:
How many think it should disqualify him?
How many plan to vote for him despite him being a fascist?
How many plan to vote for him because he's a fascist?
8A good chunk of Trump's cancer is caused by terrible left wing policy.
I hate Trump and everything about the far right, but I can understand people falling in love with the idea of a strongman who will cut through bullshit and do what people want.
The left is supposed to mitigate income inequality, and make life good for their citizens.
Both left/right idealogies are entirely owned by corporate interests across the globe - this is the crux of the entire issue.
The problems facing the middle class are entirely artificial and intentional. There are a myriad of reasons, but the end result is that we have one societies/laws/reality for the wealthy, and a completely different set of rules for the population.
The left promises to solve everything with equality and the right promises to resolve everything with hierarchy.
Neither idealogy has any intention of doing anything but funnel as much money/power to big business until their political careers are done.
The obvious difference is the "Right" idealogies are objectively bad for everyone but the ultra wealthy. Unfortunately being ultra wealthy gives you the ability to own national anti-reality propaganda networks.
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Even that number is too low compared to what it should be.
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The other half lick his boots
27I'm pretty sure a good percentage of those who believe him a fascists also approve of that
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If you're shoulder to shoulder supporting the same leaders and policies that Neo-Nazis are, I got some bad news for ya.
25If you’re sitting at a table alone, and 10 Nazis come to sit with you and you don’t get up, there are now 11 Nazis at that table.
10They'll just call your bad news "fake news" and move on with their day ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Only half? America is so weird
22At least a third don't know what fascism is. We do not do education well. It's how we ended up here in the first place.
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The other half is stupid
21No, the other half just doesn't know what fascism means.
13Or they know and are ok with it because they're cis, white, males who call themselves christian.
6They think it's a condiment
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Uhm akschually it can only be called fascism if it originates in 1920s Germany. Otherwise its just sparkling totalitarianism.
19Don’t you mean Italy?
7Is there some pop culture reference that I'm unaware of, or why are you talking nonsense?
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So every Democrat voter basically and no Republican voter sees him as one.
17Not quite every Democratic voter as it's only 50%. Every Democrat and a majority of independents said he lies since that was 2/3rds and a bit over 30% of the population are Republicans with another about 10% being made up of right leaning independents.
11Among registered voters who think Trump is a fascist, 8% support him anyway.
Probably a few Republicans in there.
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and the half that dont cant even spell fascist
10.... Yet a good chunk will vote for him anyway, because they think Trump is hurting the right people.
6And the other half love him for it.
5Half of Americans don't view him as a fascist and will gladly vote for him, and a portion of the other half sees it as a sign of leadership
5The other half don’t have a clue that they are fing our country long term. It’s a funny joke to them
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