Cultural enrichment

🤝 our governments are committing war crimes

Solidarity amongst the working class!
Ultimately we have more in common with a normal Chinese person just trying to live their lives than any of us do with our ruling classes. I'm sure those same ruling classes would rather us be less aware of that fact.
I might have laughed out loud on a silent bus. But worth it
Idk why there's such a pissing match in this post. Like honestly. Both our governments are shit. Why is this even a debate as to whose government is committing war crimes more? Your comment is the best comment here by far.
- If a serial murderer told you that their victims were actually much worse than they are, would you believe them?
  Yet the source of pretty much all anti-china atrocity propaganda is the US and its orgs like the victims of communism foundation. They want you to believe every single country they hate, China, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, etc... are guilty of the same crimes they are. Why do you believe them?

Which country allows their citizens to openly speak about and protest said war crimes?

Americans have jesters privilege. We can say anything we want as long as it doesn't matter. As soon as the government thinks it might matter, they have a million tools to silence you.
- This is horse shit. There are examples of protests being countered (e.g. When Trump gassed protesters and clergy members to hold a Bible up upside down at their church), but these examples are rare and those people weren't actually "silenced". They told everyone about what happened.
  Americans have freedom of speech protected by our constitution. China, on the other hand, has actual laws dictating against many forms of speech.
  For example... "The PRC bans certain content regarding independence movements in Tibet and Taiwan, the religious movement Falun Gong, democracy, the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre, Maoism, corruption, police brutality, anarchism, gossip, disparity of wealth, and food safety scandals."
  Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_China#%3A%7E%3Atext=The+PRC+bans+certain+content%2Cwealth%2C+and+food+safety+scandals
- Facts right...
  I would posit you can say anything but the truth that hurts profits or US interests otherwise...
  Like calling out Israel 🤡
- As soon as ~~the government~~ oligarchs who own the media thinks it might matter, they have a million tools to silence you.
  But it's also worth noting that the Chinese don't even have that. At least in America, you can get your message out by getting a billionaire to agree with you.
- I thought the Jester's job was to say stuff that DID matter, but he presented it in a way where the king could save face.
Dozens of pro-Palestinian protesters arrested outside New York Stock Exchange
- Did they bring in some tanks as well? Or if they did are we allowed to talk about it?
Andrew Wimmer was handcuffed and taken to jail on January 22, 2003 because he refused to protest in a ""designated protest zone"" that was out of sight of the President as well as local and national TV news cameras.
A woman, armed with a ""We Love You Bush"" sign showed up at the same corner shortly after Wimmer's arrest. Wimmer asked the police if they were going to arrest her if she didn't move and they said, ""no."" The police also allegedly blocked the national press camera crews and an AP reporter from approaching the protest zone to do reporting.
https://www.aclu.org/documents/dissent-forced-be-out-sight-and-out-mind
- That's a far cry from how china suppresses protests. And really a small individual example. Overall there's a clear freedom of expression and civil protest in the US. The same absolutely cannot be said about china.
- Can you post pictures of a tank event in the 80s in China without censoring? Can you talk about these protests ?
Well, soon, I'm not sure
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-administration-may-crack-palestinian-protest-movement-rcna179979
Well the US doesn't. China is hard to say because it's not constantly at war
China, but also the PRC hasn't been in a war in like 50+ years. Meanwhile the US killed a million innocent people in Iraq, and goes after whistleblowers like Assange, Snowden, and Manning for speaking out about its war crimes. And the Obama administration prosecuted a record number of whistleblowers, and had a zero tolerance policy towards them.
- Try to talk about the Tiananmen Square in China, Monsieur Jacques I.
Like, the Netherlands or something maybe?
- https://youtube.com/shorts/_XIyPwutlis
Not America & not China, this isn't a competition

They are both wrong.

The correct way is to argue passionately that your country has committed the MOST war crimes/genocides/human rights violations. Ya know, bragging rights.

Deutschland betritt den Raum...
- I think there is a differrnce of Germany before EU and after EU
- Bockwurstscheibeninspektorplakettenhalter

One side is right tho

Na both are right. All countries have blood on their hands. It's honestly not a good comparison.
- sure the united states has comparable blood on their hands as China 😂 aight buddy
Boring.

¿Porque no los dos?

It is not either or, folks. Both are bad for similar and different ways!

Finally, a sane take

Name 5 Chinese war crimes,I'll wait 😎

Dragging anchor in the baltic and cutting cables.
Ramming Philippine ships and assaulting sailors.
Genocide of the Uyghers.
Tibet genocide.
The rampant illegal fishing in every other countries coastline.
- #4 is like claiming the Union committed genocide against enslaved people in the Confederacy by abolishing slavery
- Please list sources for any of these. Preferably not from US or british state media.
- Here's 5 actual war crimes
  My Lai massacre Vietnam - America
  Iraq invasion (there's thousands within this one including Abu ghraib) -america/nato 3- dressing up as medical personnel and massacring a refugee camp to save 1 person in gaza- Israel and America 4- a host of lesser known but many technical war crimes in Afghanistan like bombing undefended villages and towns https://www.culawreview.org/journal/double-standards-in-international-law-did-the-us-get-away-with-war-crimes-in-afghanistan 5- raping children and murdering their family. This is American tactic in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria with many documented cases
- 1 isn't a war crimes lmao 2 isn't a war crime 3. Isn't a war crime nor is there proof. Literal unbacked western propaganda, wanna know what is backed? Gaza, By the west and Sudan genocide by America via UAE RIGHT NOW, you can literally watch it unfold on all social media 4. Perhaps, I would need to do more research on this one, but didn't you got 3 wrong, I wouldn't be surprised if your wrong again. 5. Not a war crime
  Edit: no idea how to do formatting on the phone, I apologise