Tuna melts and how to go viral. That's all we're getting.

Something something enjoy your republican overlords for the rest of time.

Seriously what the fuck is the democratic party doing anymore. It seriously feels like the second Obama left they collectively forgot what the fuck they were doing.

Authoritarianism is oddly efficient in making decisions and having direction. Such are the perils of democracy.. an opposition that embodies shared decision making and balance of power will often look slower, incompetent and out of touch..
- Dems just don't look like it, they act the part too!
They’re just aiding Trump. Their silence os complicity. They’re on the same side.
And that is not the side of the people.
It's because they had nothing to do with Obama. Obama was the result of the last honest primary with no fuckery, and the DNC immediately regretted it. They wanted Hillary to get the nomination in '08, so they forced her through in '16.
Here's where the tuna melt story came from
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/22/politics/democrats-reaction-trump-agenda/index.html
- "Are there changes that we need to make? "
  Man this is absolutely telling
  These guys lost an election and are still dancing around the possibility that they might need to change tactics LMAO 🤣
  They say at the end that the moment was viral but maybe viral for them is different than for the rest of us the blue collar workers
They collectively forgot what they were doing when Bill Clinton abused his position to get sucked off by an intern.
- I still believe in my heart of hearts that Bill and Hillary are swingers or have an open marriage and that they only got married for political reasons. When Bill got caught getting his rocks off in oval office they figured infidelity would be easier to stomach for the American people than the truth which is they they have an open marriage lol.
  I have absolutely zero actual proof for this belief but I have chosen to believe this is what happened.

I spend WAY too much time online and see all the stupid viral videos because of it, and I pay attention to politics a LOT more than the average American does getting their hour of ~~news~~ propaganda from billionaire-owned media each night from the TV and facebook posts from their bubble of "friends".

What fucking viral Tuna Melt moment?

Only 80 year old geriatric with dementia would consider that viral, wait.

What fucking viral Tuna Melt moment?
I'm pretty sure she's being ironic. The giveaway is "very memorable" -- if it really were memorable you wouldn't say it that way.
- It's like when a videogame company shows. A graph of total accounts for a game instead of the actual revenue, because the revenue numbers are bad, and the only positive is the number of accounts

Alternative title: "What CNBC is reporting on vs What FOX News is reporting on"

Correction: "vs What FOX News is tweeting about"

Can't someone make a new party that actually represents working class people and just get rid of Democrats? By many other countries politics, Democrats look more right than left

Democrats have political and financial capital, which tend to be powerful assets in running a successful campaign. Any new party needs to:
Inform the general population that they exist
Inform the general population what their platform is
Persuade the general population that their platform is desirable
Convince the general population that they're capable of implementing their platform
These are not trivial tasks, made more difficult without a track record or money.
- Without a PAC funded by the ultra rich no unapproved canidate will ever make it to the ballot.
  Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Then they wouldn't have the corporation's interests represented
We should do this with the sole intention of throwing a wrench into the process and making the Dems pay attention. With the distinct understanding that we should not allow it to divide the progressive vote under any circumstances.
This is done all the time. Think the Tea Party or the Green Party etc. They're just extensions of existing parties meant to bring attention to certain topics.
The Right never hesitates to use this kind of tactic and we need to grow a spine and do it as well.
That's the Green party, but you get yelled at when you even suggest voting for them, even in a non-swing state.

The fact that people actually believe that this is all the democrats are currently doing clearly illustrates exactly why we had so many protest voters.

It seems as if the far left won’t ever be convinced of anything unless it-

A) Agrees with what they already believe
\ B) Is in an easy-to-read meme format
\ C) Comes from their communal clipboard of copypasta marxist rhetiric.

I’m incredibly angry that trump won, but not at all surprised. These people make up not just a portion of our voting body, but also a huge portion of our NON-voting body.

What are they doing? Wait I'll do you one better. What else can they do, but re-evaluate what they've been doing?
- Google “Democrats” then select the “News” tab. That’ll get you going in the right direction.
The Democratic Party is in a timeloop for thirty years if they believe that courting centrists and right wing voters still work in the age of growing wealth inequality. Actually, forget that, the Democrats still want to court centrists and the right in order to send signal to the true rulers that are oligarchs, that they are just as right wing as the Republicans in order to keep receiving corporate donations and make money from stocks.

I’ve posted it before but the way to get “media attention” is to be controversial and a bit shameless

Republicans are great at this. “Ban immigrants”, “all weapons should be permanently legal for everyone”, “ban abortion in all cases”, “ban gays”, these extreme messages are embraced by the party. Algorithms pick up on content that is engaged upon. People engage on this content regardless of their viewpoint. Even if you hate these views you are more likely to click and view out of rage, to comment your disbelief and to say “fuck this stupid bullshit”

Democrats are terrible at this. They abhor the controversial messaging from the left. They embrace weak messaging that sinks like “maybe some mild economic reform”. They embrace weak counter messaging like “gay people are actually valid”, “abortion should be left alone”, “maybe regulate guns a little” and then it gets trampled by right wing commenters and voices.

They need to embrace the right wing formula, frankly. “90% tax bracket for income over 10 million dollars”, “state funded abortion mills”, “ban all guns”, “mandatory lgbt education in public schools”, “death penalty for oligarchs”, etc. stop softening the message because you’re worried about alienating 4% of old white voters. It’s clearly not working

I agree to some extent. But you have to realize that it isn't 4% of voters. Trump won ~77 million votes this election vs Kamala's ~75 million. That's incredibly close, mainly because she tried to pander to the majority.
There's nothing she could've really done much differently this cycle that would've clenched the election with 100% certainty. There were simply too many factors working against her, like the shitty economy and the GOP's massive disinformation campaigns promising to turn everything around. A huge chunk of voters are already admitting how "shocked" they are with some of the shit Trump's administration is doing. This is due to microtargeted advertising, meaning that the many voters get completely different political ads on social media that leave out their extremist positions. My theory is that the DNC seems to not be very good at taking advantage of this capability, choosing to just provide blanketed campaign messaging that's mainly the same for everyone.
Sorry, got a bit rambly and off track there. I'm tired.
- My theory is that the DNC seems to not be very good at taking advantage of this capability.
  Or maybe it's the fact that all social media platforms are in the hands of a few people who happened to stand in the front row during Trump's inauguration.
  Dems don't have the capability cause their enemies control the algorithms.
I'm well agreed, but:
“all weapons should be permanently legal for everyone”
No one is saying this, no one except liberals.
It's not a thing. I'm in all kinds of gun-owner spaces. This is not a fucking thing that is proposed. At all.
It's utterly false and makes you look disconnected from reality.
- There are absolutely people who think that all weapons should be legal. You should be glad you haven't had the misfortune to meet them.
- Well for one it’s a bit of hyperbole, to a degree.
  I’m legally blind and back I became legally blind the state pulled my drivers license. This is something that can happen in 13 states
  However, I can still purchase a gun. Granted, legally blind doesn’t mean “without vision”. I can actually still see quite a bit. I still play videogames, read books, work, etc. However, I could be completely darkness blind, like no vision whatsoever, and I am still legally allowed to buy a gun.
  Back when I had a reddit account I posted this anecdote as a joke and got dozens of replies about how “of course I should be able to buy a gun” despite not having the fucking prerequisite of fucking VISION. Several of them pointed me to some blind YouTuber who had a channel about being blind and shooting guns and owning guns
  Like I am technically disabled. I work with the disabled, I work for the disabled. But the huge number of people who immediately jump on me to immediately reject the idea of any kind of regulation that would suggest someone who literally cannot see the world they are aiming a lethal weapon at shouldn’t have access to it make me think that the hyperbole isn’t that far off
  And for the record I actually do own a gun. Well my household does, technically. I don’t use it, obviously, but my partner is trained to do so. We both abhor guns but are of the opinion that “pandoras box has been opened” so to speak. If shit hits the fan we need to be able to defend ourselves and guns beat pretty much everything else we could possibly do. If real legislation, reform,and regulation came through I would be extremely happy to be rid of it. It is a cancer on our home.

Can someone explain me what was the tuna melt moment? All I get is literal tuna sandwiches in the Google search

Yeah, if that's the most viral they went in the last 5 years, they're in trouble. I don't remember anything like that happening either.
- it was that time Biden walked into a Subway and said "you're telling me a tuna melted this sandwhich?" and everyone laughed

People really fucking blame Democrats for not being in charge after those same people don't vote for them, goddamn clown country.

Dems gross incompetence is the exact reason they can't get enough votes to win what should have been the easiest election of all of our lifetimes
- What policy issue do you disagree with them on?
Most the people I know that did vote for them blame them for not being in charge. Yes, it is a clown country.
- They're not exactly helping elect their chosen candidates by flaming them online.
Remember that Democrat super majority? Fucking nothing.
- I remember over a decade ago when 58 Dems voted for single payer, every Republican and a couple of Independents fucked it up for us, but at least we still got the medicaid expansion that gave coverage to millions of American citizens.
  Before that, the 111th congress had a dem supermajority for only 72 days and it is the most productive congress on record since the 89th congress as far as bills passed.

the american “experiment” is over. It has reached its logical conclusion

Tuna melts? Or fascism?

They were never going to save us. Bernie tried to play by their system...

They were going to save us and a bunch of assholes didn't show up to vote for being saved.

What do you expect from a party that has no power? Honestly Republicans should be more pissed off, they have all 3 branches of government and they're doing symbolic bullshit with 0 chance of success to appeal to Trump specifically, and it'll work because he never watched School House Rock. Not that I'm complaining.

the constitution only matters if the people who enforce it actually decide to.
Remember when the Democrats had a super majority and did literally fuck all with it? No abortion law, no privacy laws, literally fucking nothing? I do. Cause I remember being real excited they might actually do something and now I'm jaded because they fucking didn't.
Keep watching and you'll be just as pissed at how much the Democrats insist on fucking kneecapping themselves at every available opportunity. I mean, Jesus. Christ. Kamala ran on building the fucking wall.
- Remember when the Democrats had a super majority
  1979-81 is before my time. In 2021-23 Democrats had a majority in the house and a weak-as-possible majority in the senate (a supermajority is 60 votes, enough to break a filibuster) with only 50 votes*, with Kamala as a tiebreaker.
  In all practical terms though, that kind of majority is a Republican majority. In order to control the Senate at all (due to the fact that every state, even rural red states with less than a million people gets 2 votes), Democrats have to include people who are basically Republicans in their senate races, like Joe Manchin - a "Democrat" who refused to endorse Biden or Harris over Trump this last election. And that's exactly why codifying Roe failed - Manchin said no.
  I'm not here to defend Democrats though. I think they should've kicked out Manchin a long time ago and stop hiding how broken the system is. But they're not the problem, they're just the insufficient cure. Republicans are the problem, fight them. If Democrats are too centrist, then the left should be primarying Republicans and attempting to make a hostile takeover of the party.
  *Technically even this was not a Democrat majority, as it included 2 independents - 1 was Bernie Sanders, the other was the more centrist Angus King

We are so fucked.

Wrong view.

Republicans that already were good with media won.

Democratvoters are not selecting for social media savy.

Plus, the deck is stacked against Democrats.

their 'secret', and it's not really a secret..

they're loud. they scream lies all day, every day, without end.

the counter would be to do the same, but telling the truth instead; calling out the bullshit the republicants shovel. all day, every day, without end.

No, you don't call out their bullshit. That's the trap. That lets them frame the entire conversation. You build a vision for the country that people can get behind. That's the same thing the Republicans do, but with fear of the other.
- If only they had 4 years to actually do that before the election
  What a shame, guess we will never know

The Problem with the left is that they actually have different opinions. The right is just different shades of Nazis. The left is a bunch of fundimentally different approaches to make the world the world a better place. Therefore, of course the Nazis are going to win.

What we are talking about is the paradox of inclusivity. Either the 99% oppress the 1%, or the 1% oppress the 99%. From an ethical, a democratic, a Constitutional, and an ecological standpoint, oppressing the 1% would be the right thing.

The Left seems to be made of up a bunch of different coalitions that can’t agree on the priorities to enact. People are for something but they can’t agree on what.
The Right seems to be made up of a bunch of different coalitions that can’t agree on the priorities to repeal. People are against something but can’t agree on what. They also have Nazis.

Simulation is now shutting down
If only it was going to be that quick and painless.
- Just waiting on the Blue Screen.
Another party winning an election democratically is hardly the end of the world

The right found themselves someone who champions their values in as much the same way as the left finds a champion in the Roosevelts.

I think it's pendulum swinging to the right in general as is nature of politics. Hopefully it won't last long and someone doesn't stick a knife to stop the pendulum swinging back. There is still plenty of hope considering that many Americans are still resisting. I don't know who is who in both the Senate and the House, but I'm sure the Democrats will vote down the proposal to allow a third term to a president, and a Republican one at that.

Isn't that pretty much the context for the movie Civil War?

Dear dems worry less about your influencer status more about doing your job

You Americans get what you asked for

And what political paradise do you belong to?
- Why so you can run it down to make yourself feel better about living in a shit hole?