Mike Johnson urged a religious test for politicians

There should be a religious test for politicians.

If you're too religious, you should not be a politician

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That is the opposite of what this country was built on; freedom of religion.

Being religious should not disqualify anyone, but if you push past separation of church and state then and only then should you be disqualified

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- I'm pretty sure that was the point of the original comment.
  
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- Being too religious should absolutely disqualify you, just like believing the world is flat or any number of other complete nonsense should disqualify you.
  
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- So… you’re saying ….
  
  If they’re too religious… they should be disqualified…
  
  The line for you being that they try to force their beliefs on others. Which, personally, I view as a given when their campaign platform includes “Christian Values” (or any other religion’s values,)
  
  If you can’t make a secular argument…. It doesn’t belong in government.
  
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- The Puritans came here to seperate THEIR church from the state, after that it became them imposing their religion on natives.
  
  The actual country's founding in 1776 was. Far from religious, and many of the founding fathers were not religious or outright anti religion
  
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- Bring religious should be a disqualification. You have a higher master you serve. You can't be trusted to put the country and the citizens first.
  
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- I imagine they weren't being serious
  
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- Religious beliefs are not disqualifying, but if that's your whole way of being, you should not hold public office. Render unto Caesar.
  
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There's a Canadian politician I refuse to vote for because he's seihk, wears the turban and religious regalia. Of course you get called racist, but I wouldn't vote for a Jewish person in Orthodox garb, or a Christian carrying a Bible everywhere. It tells me that you put your religion above everything, even your constituents.

Of course there's an India/seihk scandal going on right now. Having a super religious seihk in power would have made that one a way bigger shit show.

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- Perhaps start by learning how to spell Sikh before passing judgment on them.
  
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- I don't understand what people think of when they read...
  
  If you're too religious, you should not be a politician
  
  but it's literally part of what you're saying. Why the downvotes, because they're naming specifics of what signals to them being too religious? Make it make sense, Lemmy.
  
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You know what? Yes. And if you’re found to be swayed by your religion while making law? You should be barred from office.

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Shot for treason

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I'd like to test him about feeding the hungry. Sheltering the homeless. Comforting the widow. Coveting your neighbors goods. Doing to others as you would like have done to you. I'm not even fucking talking about religion, either.

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I'd like to test him about the desire for control and dictatorial tendencies. He would fail every time

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I wish these chucklefucks would realize not all of us believe in god let alone the same one they pray to.

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They do realize this. They see it as a problem that needs fixing.

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- They seem to forget one of the main reasons people founded this country in the first place. Freedom OF religion includes freedom FROM religion.
  
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There is a 'no religious test' bit in the constitution It turns out that the only religious test the constitution sanctions is DON'T PROPOSE RELIGIOUS TESTS

That's the one that tells us you can't be trusted with secular authority

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Now we got to listen to this bullshit. Would love to see him take a test on the bible.

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We'll start by asking him to list all twenty commandments, since conservatives usually claim that they love them so much.

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- Twenty? I'm not a Christian so was unaware of the extra ten.
  
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- Um, excuse me!? There were 15!
  
  Uh, 10! Only 10!
  
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Start with "Which came first, people or animals?"

Genesis 1:

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 2:

7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

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- Indeed. Two stories from two regions mashed up into the Septuagint along with a number of other writings, much of it proven to be anachronistic, meant to unify a kingdom politically against its rivals under one religion and one god where before there were many of each. It's also why you see god being named in different ways in different books.
  
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This guy’s a fuckin freak.

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And he doesn't know that you never go full religious pineapple

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I feel like a major lesson from the Trump era is that no one has to take American evangelicals seriously when they talk about how their faith informs their politics. They can and will justify anything so it’s just a waste of everyone’s time to pretend they’re sincere in their beliefs.

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This is it exactly. Start with what someone is trying to justify doing first and foremost. It doesn't matter what they believe. A nihilist fascist should be exterminated all the same

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Ironic considering that Jews and atheists tend to be more knowledgeable than Christians about religion: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2019/07/23/what-americans-know-about-religion/

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I fully support this. Anyone who claims to be religious - of any kind - will not get my vote.

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I strongly disagree. Anyone who is a devout Christian, and actually follows at least some of what's written in the bible, absolutely would get my vote.

For example, James 5:

1 Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. 2 Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. 3 Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. 4 Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. 5 You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter.[a] 6 You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you.

Or Leviticus 19:34

But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

Of course, unless people like Mike Johnson are suddenly in favour of a wealth tax, harsh punishments for wage theft, and something approaching equal rights for migrants and minorities, I don't think they actually meet that particular religious test.

Of course, they think they do, that they're more moral than the rest of us. Which is yet another religious test they habitually, profoundly and fundamentally fail. Vanity is a cardinal sin.

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Man, these guys just hate this country so very much. It's so obvious because they keep ignoring and/or gaslighting about one of the most important things about this country, and that is that it is a SECULAR country.

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This is turning into a South Park episode.

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🌎👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

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I would love to see how closely they follow "love thy neighbor"

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thats why they try so hard to change who is allowed to move in next door

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I'm sure he's really concerned about usery.

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It seems like he was urging people to vote based on candidates' religious beliefs. This is not a "religious test" in the Constitutional sense.

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What do you think the Constitution means when it says "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

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- That you don't have to profess any particular religious beliefs in order to qualify as a candidate for office.
  
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Praze ba jeebuz

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How about a religious test on this extra set of ten commandments and start by seeinh how the idiots in the House would even pass it.

Thou shall send aid to Israel and Ukraine
Thou shall vote not to shut down the government
Thou shall vote for a Democratic House Speaker
Thou shall ban assault weapons from the market
Thou shall vote to expand, not cut, Social Security or Medicare
Thou shall vote to tax the very rich since greed is a sin
Thou shall vote to tear down border walls that don't work
Thou shall vote to invest in clean renewable energy
Thou shall vote to stop drilling and clear cutting on natural reserves
Thou shall vote to expand the Endangered Species List and fund the EPA.

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No need to invent new commandments. Use the holy book they claim to follow.

James 5: 1-6:

1 Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. 2 Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. 3 Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. 4 Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. 5 You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. 6 You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you.

Not done your best to eliminate wage theft and tax the rich? Fail.

Leviticus 19:34

The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

Not voted in favour of equal (voting, residence, labour, ...) rights for migrants? Fail.

Exodus 22:25

“If you lend money to any of my people with you who is poor, you shall not be like a moneylender to him, and you shall not exact interest from him.

Not voted in favour of mandating interest free loans to the poor? Fail.

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As soon as he provides proof that he's not made out of wood.

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My boy crawled right out of Madame Tussauds for the speaker position

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