Pornhub Is Pulling Out of France
Pornhub Is Pulling Out of France

Between this and the public smoking ban, what vices are left in France?

Pornhub Is Pulling Out of France
Between this and the public smoking ban, what vices are left in France?
Pornhub Is Pulling Out of France
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Les Contraception Dangereux
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“Adults are free to consume porn, but not at the expense of protecting our children,” Chappaz said in a tweet Tuesday, according to an English language translation. “Asking pornographic sites to verify the age of their users is not about stigmatizing adults, but about protecting our children.”
These fuckers always throw around the term "protecting our children" when they want to do something shitty. Companies like Pornhub actually have strick controls to actually protect children with their anti-CP policies. By forcing them to adopt these bullshit government controls, it only moves users to less legitimate sites without anti-CP policies.
Companies like Pornhub actually have strick controls to actually protect children with their anti-CP policies.
To be fair, that's a more recent thing. It had some terrible content in the past. Then around 2020 that got some publicity so Visa, Mastercard and Discover all threatened blacklist them if they didn't start moderating properly.
Although your point still stands, the whole "Wont somebody think of the children!?!11" lamentation is a dead giveaway. And I'm sad that more people don't realize.
Yeah, using kids as a baseball bat to bash their way forward
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<every authoritarian government on earth and in human history>
Just educate kids on sex. The sites from Pornhub are way better than the virus filled alternatives with way worse kinds of porn.
I remember going on sketchy sotes to get logins and passwords to log into even sketchier porn sites.
These authoritarian laws are such a boon for VPN companies.
*goon
Everyone with a libido goons. Grow up.
If porn does any damage to the psyche, surely it's less than videos you can find showing torture and murder, right? At least in porn, people are shown having a good time. I'll also note that no porn is burned into my brain, but there are sure some other videos that are.
(Just light headed talk here) because I was born before internet, I remember the first porn magazine I saw (at 11, I think), the first porn magazine I bought (at 14, because fuck the rules) and the first porn film I watched (at 13 because my father had a video store). Those are definitely burned in my brain.
Yeah, I remember watching scrambled TV for hours waiting for the few brief seconds it came in clear.
It only happened twice but it is also seared into my brain.
I can't deny that there are both awful violent videos and excellent porn burned into my brain. (Shouting out you, Scarlet Chase, Alexis Texas, and Anna Claire Clouds)
There is a certain video about some people and a cup burned into memory, but that video wouldn't be found on the sites owned by Pornhub, but more the shitty alternative sites who will never comply with rules and regulations.
While consuming porn your body is producing the feelgood hormones, like dopamine, just like every other drug, including social media. Do it often enough and your brain gets used to it, and can't do without.
And it's just as harmful. Have a look at "Your brain on porn" which is a book about problematic porn consumption, but can be expanded to every other dopamine creating vice out there.
Wait, we aren't supposed to have daily dopamine?
This is Wikipedia on the guy who started the site:
Wilson argued, counter to relevant experts in the subject, that porn addiction is a public health issue,[11] and said it led to negative effects such as depression and erectile dysfunction.[13] According to Jason Winters, a lecturer on human sexuality in the department of psychology at the University of British Columbia "There is no research showing that Internet pornography causes mental disorders — none".[14]
There's people with addictive tendencies and such without / with less of them. That said, your generic statement is bullshit. Many people can enjoy porn frequently without any addiction symptoms.
If they wanted parental controls they'd use the ones already available and ask their ISPs to provide additional and more accessible ones per SIM card, per contract (though manually setting up limitations on each device works better and should suffice). Mandatory age and ID verification for websites is an authoritarian policy through and through, and goes far past anything that would protect children in any way (in fact, it would harm them).
Pornhub Is Pulling Out of France
So, Coitus Interruptus?
One day porn will have to be made by two friends with a tripod, a camera and a couch. They'll have to edit their own video and share it ptp. People will go to state sales trying to buy old hard drives to try to locate classical bdsm porn and rare gangbang art work.
Dial-up BBS’s watching GIFs download at 2400 baud?
Are we not doing “Phrasing!” anymore?
It's kinda weird seeing this from Germany: Around here porn websites always required a proper age check ("are you 18" banners don't suffice), which in effect means that the few porn sites that are hosted in Germany are paid (if you're paying, an age check is trivial). That doesn't mean that the rest is inaccessible, but it certainly doesn''t have a .de TLD. It's just how laws written for the offline age translated to online.
What's stopping pornhub from having a similar strategy in France? Continue to accept French IPs for the international version, paywall the French version.
What's stopping pornhub from having a similar strategy in France? Continue to accept French IPs for the international version, paywall the French version.
Pornhub is ideologically against having to collect and verify data on their users for the government. They block traffic in all areas that pass these kinds of laws as a protest.
Rare corporate W.
Edit: I take that back. Apparently, they want device level verification
Doesn't seem like a real requirement if Pornhub and similar sites can get away with their "only click if you're 18"-banners just the same. Making a distinction between sites hosted inside Germany and outside Germany doesn't seem like smart lawmaking to me.
It's also "sites directed at a German audience", but using that as a justification for DNS bans is rare. I guess practically more relevant is that German google isn't serving up those international sites.
German law doesn't require 100% security when it comes to youth protection stuff, not only would that be impossible but it's also not the intent, because once kids are old enough to actively seek something out, they're by and large old enough to consume it. What youth protection really cares about is not having kids just stumble over things they have no reference frame for.
Pulling out 🤭
Aylo was purchased by private equity firm Ethical Capital Partners in 2023, whose partner Solomon Friedman told reporters in a call Tuesday that the law is “ineffective” and “dangerous,” noting concerns over privacy. “It’s a matter of putting our values first, and that means communicating directly with the French people to tell them what their government is refusing to tell them,” Friedman said, according to Politico.
Despite the name, of course they would be against this. I mean they are right in their reasoning, but laws like these will hurt their revenue as well, which might as well be the reason for their stance on this after all.
Yeah, this is 100% self-preservation. The article says they are in favor of age verification but want it done at the device level which is a much larger threat to privacy.
Depends on how it is done. You know those 2FA fobs that just pass a code every 30 seconds, right? What if you made some kind of fob or chip that you can only get from the government when you are 18+ (here in NL that would be easy because most things are 18plus locked) then if you could use that for online gambling, porn, buying alcohol online, etc. it wouldn't be linked to your person. If the government doesn't keep track of who has which fob/card. Which is easy to check if you get an accountant to do a formal audit on them, keeping track or not. I know PureVPN had done an audit like that checking if they kept themselves on their own no logs policy.
How is this going to work? They'll ban all French IPs?
Yes. They already do this to some states in the USA that have similar laws.
VPNs get around this just fine.
That's what I thought. What a dumb law.