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Ubisoft EULA demanding consumers destroy delisted games adds fuel to Stop Killing Games movement

www.notebookcheck.net Ubisoft EULA demanding consumers destroy delisted games adds fuel to Stop Killing Games movement

The EULA that accompanies delisted Ubisoft games requires players to destroy their purchases. Stop Killing Games is fighting to keep titles working after companies abandon them. A major representative for EU publishers opposes solutions like support for third-party servers.

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Jesus Christ that’s like comic book super villain bad.
- Ubisoft is the Shredder of game companies. Evil, but ultimately their plans would fall apart even without the Turtles intervening because they are just awful.
  
  Shredder never even has defined plans. Now granted, I was a kid in the 80s. If the new series is different, I don't know. I didn't even see the micheal bay movies. I saw the original cartoon, the first 3 movies, and the "coming out of our shell" tour.
  Shredder always just kind of showed up, and maybe robbed a jewelry store. Or kidnapped April and that skinny news reporter guy.
  There never seemed to be a plan. It was always just vague "do crime and evil shit...."
  Then they introduced the mafia, who for some reason just liked tickling everybodies feet.
  
  they even attempted some propaganda by using a show, mythic quest in the pandemic.

Can’t delete a torrent. Just saying. Keep seeding, Lemmings!
- "A torrent is never dead, it's just waiting for seeders"

Almost at 1.3 million! Make sure to vote if you're eligible and haven't already, it's super important. Fuck these greedy companies.

This is why I've been boycotting Ubisoft for literal decades now. I refuse to even pirate their shit. Fuck them. They used to be cool company in the 90s, had bunch of cool franchises and then turned into this soulless greedy corporate bullshit just being absolute dicks to gamers and releasing all games with identical concept to Assassin's Creed and Far Cry, for 20 games in a row...
- The only Ubisoft game I tried was Assassin's Creed Black Flag, and it was the buggiest piece of shit I have ever encountered.
  
  Black Flag was actually one of the best Assassin's Creed games as far as I heard from fans.
- They can start using AI to make games and no one will notice

IANAL but wasn't that text just some "standard" legalese relating to the way they license software and it was basically unenforceable anyway? I know it's cool to pick on ubisoft for being a shit company, but BG3 had a similar requirement in the game's EULA:

Same for GOG iirc, but I'm too lazy to search.
- Gog doesn't have this. They specifically market it that you get to download a binary install and keep the game forever.
  
  yes but there’s still a EULA you agree to about redistribution and how you’re allowed to use the software etc…even FOSS software has licenses. if there’s terms in there about being able to back out of the agreement, i’d imagine there would be a clause about destroying copies of the software
  that all seems very reasonable
- It’s why no legitimate site is reporting this, because it’s nonsense rage bait.
- This being "standard legalese" sounds fine to you?
- That's saying that if YOU stop the agreement, you have to delete the game though.
  
  I read it the same way you did. If you want to terminate the EULA, then they request you remove your copies of the game. In that snippet it says nothing about them arbitrary demand you delete all your copies.
  
  They both are. Both agreements can be terminated for any reason. Larion's says nothing that would prevent them from terminating the agreement, it only clarifies that the signer can. There's no real difference here.
  
  Exactly this. And it's kind of logical actually, when you go crazy like writing Larian "fuck this shit I hate the game, you can shove it up your ass" it's no surprise you're fed up with the game and don't want to have it anymore. It's like when you literally destroyed diskette/CD/DVD back then in a rage (or fighting addiction).
  
  That's one way to tell everyone that you didn't understand the comment.
- Yep I believe that's what this is. I've seen clauses like this in other stuff too. Pretty boiler plate. Not like they can actually enforce it.
  
  Then why the fuck did they write it?
- I can't find it on GOG's but I wouldn't be surprised if it's in most EULAs. I've seen emails saying "confidential, if you are not the intended recipient of this email you must delete it." There's no way to enforce that. Ubisoft isn't coming to your house to review the contents of your drives. I'm guessing it's to stop some loophole like "you said I can't resell your game so instead I sold my hard drive (that has the game installed on it)".
- It seems like the relevant section in the Ubisoft EULA says
  "Upon termination for any reason, You must immediately uninstall the Product and destroy all copies of the Product in Your possession."
  I read this wording of this to be stricter than the BG3 example you shared, because the BG3 one seems to be saying "if you don't agree to this EULA (or if you agree, but later terminate that agreement), then you must uninstall the game". Whereas the Ubisoft one seems to include Ubisoft terminating the agreement, rather than just the user. That's just my interpretation of these snippets though, as someone who is not a lawyer. It's possible that the BG3 EULA also includes other parts that would mean similar to what people are unhappy about on the Ubisoft EULA
  
  afaik both are unenforceable since you can only read them after paying for the product.
- Isn’t the conditions quite different, from your screenshot, you get to devices if you want to terminate. But in the other case, they decide.
- Nice observation. Nonetheless it is wrong in any circumstance.

You know, I was mildly ambivalent about Ubisoft recently (just burned out by their games and not wanting to buy them until I've slept for ages) but... Really? This is the hill they want to die on? Well that does say a lot about them, now doesn't it?

JFC, you know, I can see some problems arising from games/companies changing hands and shit going dark here and there on a game for a bit... but bullshit like this... this is the reason we can't have nice things.

Here I though offline mode for The Crew 2 was a small step in the right direction or an olive branch. This is what I get for being optimistic I guess lol
- I'll believe it when I see it.

Eat merde, Ubisoft.

Never buying Ubi again. Doesn't matter what the game is. Fukem.

I am hyped for Anno 108. Thanks for making the wait easier guys by reminding me why i should not give you my money

Classic Ubishit...
- Poopysoft

Ubisoft sucks
It isn't like Nintendo where the games make up for much, Ubisoft fucking blows. Their games are either shallow as shit, or cookie-cutter grindfests based on the same old tired design. I'm glad they don't own anything that anybody would miss. There isn't a franchise they own that they haven't already ruined. Rayman, maybe?

I know everyone loves to hate Ubisoft, but this is quite the common term. Also it only even applies when the agreement is terminated, I don't even know how that would look like. I have never heard about a usage agreement being terminated, unless you yourself violate it (e.g. get banned for cheating).

Merde alors.

I'm going to keep boycotting ubisoft until they release Beyond Good and Evil 2. Then I'll boycott them because there's no way they don't turn it into an open world-climb towers to unlock the map-crafting-nonsense

We should destroy the gaming industry all together! We can make our own games!

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