Are there any other people being considered for president by Democrats?
I don't understand how anyone thinks an 81 year old person should be leader of a nation. And will they ever produce good stuff instead of what they've been trying and failing to do for so many years and it hurts the people.
When will they help the citizens instead of funding the military and fancy projects that waste money, cutting taxes for billionaires and raising them for the poor, cut social security, cut medicare, cut this, cut that, more money to the military.
Focusing purely on the question in the headline, a party usually doesn't put forward other candidates when the president runs for a second term. Incumbents often have certain advantages.
If he dies, it's Kamala Harris. There's no time to get every Democrat behind any other option, and she polled better than Biden in that big NYT poll anyway.
Considering we have a two party system, game theory implies we will vote between the 81 year old guy who has some idea of what he is doing and the 77 year old guy who maybe just finally after seven years figured out how to start a fascist regime.
If we could somehow change the status quo, I'm not even certain who the "good candidates" would be. Warren is 74 and Sanders is 82.
Our media, gerrymandering and attention spans have led to a place where everyone who is famous and wants the job are criminally nuts.
Yeah I think I'll stick with Biden until Harris and Newsom are ready to fight about who is next.
I don't know a place to find accurate news.
What does this mean? You can't just trust one need source. It starts with learning about political science and history. And learning more and more. And then reading multiple new sources. That's the only way you'll get context. Being engaged and having the background information.
There are a lot of popular Democratic governors who have had legislative success in their states over the past several years. They're going to be the ones that have the best chance at a nomination in 2028. If Biden is re elected President and gets a Democratic Congress he'll probably be able to do things that will make those governors even more popular.
If Trump is President I don't think we have to worry about elections again.
Oh, and if Biden wins next year I think the Republican Party will go into full meltdown mode for the next several years, which will be an opportunity for the Democratic Party to flourish.
If Biden is re elected President and gets a Democratic Congress he’ll probably be able to do things that will make those governors even more popular.
Provided congress doesn't do it's usual "Whoopsie! We managed to find exactly enough votes to block this!" routine that they've been doing since at least 2009.
So I’m not in disagreement with you that it’s clear the project has at some point gone off the rails, and it might sound easier to just wipe the slate clean and start over. But there is no way that happens without a revolution or civil war either preceding of following that attempt, and that won’t even guarantee we get something good.
We’re in an extremely tight spot. Things must change drastically and quickly to avoid catastrophe but unless we’re really really careful we’ll end up in a somehow worse situation than even currently
"Starting over" a country tends to result in a lot violence and bloodshed and quite often makes things worse.
The fact of the matter is that, for many many people, dealing with a somewhat shitty status quo is a much more attractive option than taking a gamble that a revolution doesn't result in catastrophe, and you can't really say they're wrong for that.
If you're expecting change and only focus on and vote during Presidential elections, you're gonna have a bad time. Congress is in charge of all the budgetary concerns you're talking about. Before the shit show of the current Congress, they passed the inflation reduction act which is huge for average Americans.
Even in the limited cases where Biden can make meaningful changes in the lives of Americans, like his plan for student loan forgiveness, the Republican nominated Supreme Court judges blocked it.
If your state has closed primaries, make sure you're registered and vote during primaries. This is the only way progressive candidates will make it on the ballot.
As for the news, try listening to NPR Now when you have 5 minutes a day and go from there.
Would be great, but nobody has been groomed for it and with FPTP voting still in place in virtually all states, this is not the time to be selecting a different POTUS. The 2028 campaign should be planning now with the right candidate if your want a change, but you need to be working towards changing the voting process in your state.
Are there any other people being considered for president by Democrats?
You mean the DNC? Yes. For example, Dean Phillips and Marianne Williamson.
I don't understand how anyone thinks an 81 year old person should be leader of a nation.
Biden isn't even in the top ten of world leaders by age. Here they are:
President of Cameroon: 90
President of the PNA (Palestine, non-Hamas version): 88
King of Saudi Arabia: 87
Pope of the Vatican: 86
King of Norway: 86
Emir of Kuwait: 86
Supreme Leader of Iran: 84
Queen of Denmark: 83
President of Ireland: 82
President of Italy: 82
When will they help the citizens instead of funding the military and fancy projects that waste money, cutting taxes for billionaires and raising them for the poor, cut social security, cut medicare, cut this, cut that, more money to the military.
Who are "they"?
If you mean America's leaders, never, not until we implement voting reform. Unless and until then, they will be fueled by corruption, not the will of the people. This is not politician specific, although there are rare exceptions, like Bernie Sanders.
There's two big reasons Biden is going to be the candidate:
Biden has already won an election (3 if you count his time as VP). He's been tried and tested and won. The system will always prefer the candidate who has proven they can win over someone who is untested. Thus, without some extreme circumstances, incumbents always have a huge advantage over newcomers.
Biden is an extremely experienced politician. He has more experience than most people in Washington, and is an expert at reaching across the isles and cooperating with other politicians. He knows the game like nobody else and he's damn good at it. A good president has to work with those they agree with and those they disagree with, and Biden can do that.
The age question isn't as serious as you think it is. The president is the leader and the face of the Executive Branch, but he isn't the one doing all the work. There are tons of people around him who share the workload of the actual business of the Office of the President. It's not a one man job.
As to your "when" question, the answer is when they can. We're skating by on razor-thin margins right now, and have been for a long time. When our lawmaking body is split 51 vs 49, and you need 66 or more to pass any meaningful legislation, you need someone who is really good at reaching across the isle. And you also need lawmakers who are willing to compromise. What that means is that voting out the bad fanatics and voting in reasonable people of conscience is as important as ever. While one half of Congress is filled with fundamentalists, nothing will ever get done no matter who is president.
Biden is an extremely experienced politician. He has more experience than most people in Washington, and is an expert at reaching across the isles and cooperating with other politicians. He knows the game like nobody else and he’s damn good at it. A good president has to work with those they agree with and those they disagree with, and Biden can do that.
Just to put this in perspective over half of his much-vaunted experience predates the freaking internet. most of it is in a world that is fundamentally different than the world as it exists today.
You're not wrong, but does that invalidate his experience? Most of the people he's striking deals with are in that same boat. And as president, he surrounds himself with capable people who understand today's world and help him navigate it. That's what an intelligent, experienced person does.
I don't understand how anyone thinks an 81 year old person should be leader of a nation. And will they ever produce good stuff instead of what they've been trying and failing to do for so many years and it hurts the people.
When will they help the citizens instead of funding the military and fancy projects that waste money, cutting taxes for billionaires and raising them for the poor, cut social security, cut medicare, cut this, cut that, more money to the military.
Sure he hasn't been perfect. But given how your criticism levied against him always paints him as someone who has done nothing for the average American, that list becomes a lot more relevant.
I would love for Biden to do better. I think we should continue to push him in that direction. But to describe his Presidency as a failure or somehow equivalent to Trump's time in office is extremely dishonest.
"Being considered by Democrats" meaning, there are Democrats thinking they should run, sure.
"Being considered by Democrats" meaning running in the Democratic primary for president, no. There are no serious candidates other than Biden running in the primary.
Trump didn't have any substantial Republicans running against him when he was the incumbent president (IIRC they didn't even hold Republican primaries in some states in 2020), he was similarly unpopular and happened to lose so who knows if it's good strategy, but strong candidates usually wait for the incumbent in their party to lose or be term limited out.
When will they help the citizens instead of funding the military and fancy projects that waste money, cutting taxes for billionaires and raising them for the poor, cut social security, cut medicare, cut this, cut that, more money to the military.
For what it's worth Biden hasn't cut taxes for billionaires and he actually directed the IRS to focus on people making over $400k/yr, and targeted all tax increases to that same group. Neither party has cut social security or Medicare recently. Both parties have increased military spending so that's a legit complaint.
While I acknowledge Biden's age, his currently presumptive opponent is effectively just as old and makes as many verbal gaffs. I find it dishonest and misleading to only point out Biden's age.
I was not tryong to be dishonest or misleading. Do I have to pull an "X (formally Twitter)" when I'm talking about someone? Biden is 81 (Trumps an old fart too). Biden is allowing war crimes to happen (Trump did bad stuff too. Biden ate a hamburger (Trump ate 3).
Maybe it wasn't your intent but there is a bias that seems to lean against Biden regarding age and mental capacity and the title of this post feeds into it. Everytime Biden shudders a little it's plastered all over every news outlet for days. When Trump doesn't remember who he ran against in 2020, that WW2 has already happened, or Jeb Bush didn't get the US involved in Iraq it's ignored. The only difference is one is President and the other desperately wants to be President (again) and is the presumptive Republican nominee.
Republicans said Biden was too old last time. If Trump wins this time, he will be older than Biden was when Biden took office. Not a peep from republicans, though. I agree they’re both too old to be in office, and if one is the other is too.
It's tradition to go with the President if that person still wants the job. He'd have to say he no longer wants to run for the party to consider other contenders. Ideally he will remember how old he is sometime in the next couple of months and a boring centrist like Newsom will run in his place.
It feels very much like the government doesn't care about improving citizen's lives. When will we overthrow this government that no longer works in the interest of the people?
Literally only heard of three: Biden, Trump, DeSantis.
Im guesing the others don't stand a chance considering I've never heard of them and the presidency is also a popularity contest à la high school elections.
Kennedy is getting +20% on polls, so looking closer to 3-way race.
1yr out though so much can change.
If you follow politicial channels, most talk about them.
Trump/Biden/Kennedy are high up.
Vivek is doing better than Ron/Nikki.
Kennedy left democrats and gained independent people.
West/Jill are in the lower end, West left green party so support was lost. Jimmy Dore interviewed him, lost more support due to Jill/West platform strategy.
More are on the ballot, like Dr. Shiva 2024 and Claudia De la Cruz 2024.
For people that are actually running no. I mean, theres Dean Philips but nobody has heard of him. Theres also Cenk Ugyhur but its not even clear if he can leagally run.
In terms of the larger democratic party there is only one person ive heard both sides of the fence speak favorably of. JB Pritzker of Illinois. But he isn't running nor has he said he will.
Counting out Newsom and Whitmer. They are too hated to be able to win the presidency. I dont care if they are successful in their states.
There's also Manchin but I believe if he runs he will go independent / No Labels Party. I do believe if he went against Trump as Democrat he would win. There are enough republicans and never-trumpers who will support him. Alas he has only hinted at a run, not confirmed anything.
I don't think there is anyone else unless a celebrity or complete leftfield candidate shows up.
I'd say a large part is that older voters outvote younger ones by about 50%. (From what I remember, this advantage widens during the primary process, which is when parties select their candidates.)
With regards to Biden, he's more likely to win elderly voters because A) they don't see his age as as much of an issue as we might (think about trying to take Grandpa's license) and B) his more moderate stances are more likely to sway elder voters who are a little put off with some of our more progressive candidates.
Basically, it's a problem of our own making. If young people voted at similar rates to middle age and elderly voters, we'd probably have had a Sanders run in 2016, maybe 2020 but it'd be unlikely to be Biden.
From the first article "According to the exit polling, 18-to 29-year-olds accounted for 12% of voters in the midterms -- the lowest share of the electorate compared to other age groups "
The second one includes those under 54 as "younger" voters.
You'll notice that in 2020, the youngest, presumably most progressive voters votes at about 48%. The oldest, presumably most conservative voters, voted at a rate of 71.9% , or almost exactly one and a half times as much as their younger counter parts.
[34 and younger can't be president] yeah. the constitution already excludes people on age. not saying we should let 5yo's run for office, or that age isn't an awful metric, but, uh, it cuts both ways.
If the aim is to ensure that a person has a sufficient amount of life experience, that correlates exactly with age. That makes a minimum age requirement reasonable.
The thing is, that thinking is logically sound (well, not voting blindly, but voting for the lesser evil of the two regardless of how bad that option is, which will look like the same thing unless one's preferred party does something unexpectedly worse than the other.) There are real consequences to these elections, and the rather flawed first past the post sort of system we have mathematically garuntees only two parties can be viable at a time. What we need is a system where a group that gets, say, 20% of the votes in a given race gets 20% of the power rather than none of it, or at least something like ranked choice voting, so that a greater variety of candidates can be viable, but until that can be achieved, one kind of has to vote for the lesser evil lest the greater evil win instead, which is by definition an undesirable outcome no matter how small the difference between them might seem to be.
that thinking is logically sound (well, not voting blindly, but voting for the lesser evil of the two regardless of how bad that option is, which will look like the same thing unless one’s preferred party does something unexpectedly worse than the other.)
only in the short term.
In the long term, this kind of voting is exactly how we got to a choice between a milquetoast guy nobody really likes, except that he's not trump... and a guy whose actively campaigning to start a fourth reich in the US.
and "it's logically sound".... is the argument that's always been used. Biden really needs to honor his commitment and end it at 1 term, find somebody whose even moderately more left than he is, and start flaking for their campaign. (and no, that's not newsom)
When he has the ability to change it, and does nothing, he is to blame. When he says there is no red line for Israel, he is to blame. HE is currently to the right of Reagan on allowing Israel to commit genocide, so yes, he is to blame. He helped perpetrate the lie of beheaded babies, claiming he saw the pics, so yes he is to blame.