the point is. the f35 is a horribly over budget and unneeded venture. the USA doesn't need it. it's a military industrial complex thing.
and you guys in chat going I don't get it... sigh. part of the problem lol.
the uae buying them doesn't change the fact we've spent like ten x the budget. also lots of countries buy stuff from us. like the world's number one arms dealer so I don't even get YOUR point.
that's not a success and you're coping lol. there's an odd amount of America simps here lolol
Just wanted to point out that by TRILLIONS you mean the $1.7 trillion figure. Common misconception, that is the estimated lifetime cost. Lifetime meaning r&d + production of 2000 (?) units for the next 60+ years.
once again it doesn't even matter the project is still hundreads of billions over budget.
also just the fact that we haven't spent the money yet changes nothing.
you lads don't like to differentiate when it comes to actually useful public spending like healthcare initiatives or education reform.
so why should I distinguish here? in fact you're right. that figure will likely INCREASE
keep coping. keep coping that its actually good spending and that its all a okay.
keep coping while people die and can't afford healthcare. while logistics companies struggle on failing infrastructure
honestly this has to be a joke if you think it changes anything. smh
I'm done with this convo.
my point is that its fucking dumb pointing out uae when America does dumb things on a much larger scale. we deserve at least 10x edits lmap
also we use slave labor here as well. look into the prisons
you pointing out that 'actually we haven't spent the full 1.7 trillion yet... we're just 183 billion over budget rn and those are just lifetime costs is honestly so dumb and distinction that adds nothing else to the conversation and doesn't change the fact that
literal air force pilots hate the damn thing and you guys are over here posturing endlessly
what are you talking about mate. I'm saying I want them to spend it on healthcare... on housing.... on transportation and better infrastructure.
and by the way. I'd take the gaudy buildings over a fucking malfunctioning (a pilot just recently had to EJECT DURING A TEST FLIGHT)
.. expensive to maintain stealth jet (1.7 trillion JUST FOR THIS)
when we already have the world's largest arsenal by far.
which....btw what do you suppose we do with all the jets and arsenal we already have!???
how is this not just us yet again over manufacturing.
what war are we going to start next to justify this.
keep yelling into the void with this whataboutism bullshit, i see you just reply to yourself over and over lmao.
Anyway, it is absolutely NOT the same, not even because LM isn't the goddamn US gov, but a contractor. The F-35 isn't some wild pie in the sky bullshit that is completely unreasonable so they just throw money and slaves at it. In addition to this, you fail to realize (or conveniently fail to mention) just how much is actually learned from these projects. Does that make it worth it, not on it's own but again that is orders of magnitude different then the projects the UAE push that this meme is referencing.
The F-35 Lightning II was conceived from the start of the project as having participation from many countries,** most of which would both contribute to the manufacture of the aircraft and procure it for their own armed forces. While the United States is the primary customer and financial backer, the United Kingdom, Italy, the Netherlands, Canada, Turkey, Australia, Norway and Denmark agreed to contribute US$4.375 billion toward the development costs of the program.**[1] Total development costs are estimated at more than US$40 billion, while the purchase of an estimated 2,400 planes is expected to cost an additional US$200 billion.[2] Norway has estimated that each of their planned 52 F-35 fighter jets will cost their country $769 million over their operational lifetime.[3] The nine major partner nations, including the U.S., plan to acquire over 3,100 F-35s through 2035,[4] which, if delivered will make the F-35 one of the most numerous jet fighters.
Jet fighters are not dumbass shit. Fucking full stop. Just look how impactful air superiority has been in Ukraine. But nah, fuck off right? Just tell all those eastern countries that daddy putin will take care of em. No need to continue to modernize your defenses!
You cry this place is worse then reddit, so fucking LEAVE.
once again. keep crying.
jets are dumb ass shit we don't need the f35s we would still have stu superiority.
russias military is a joke compared to the current us arsenal what the fuck are you even talking about.
f35 is dumb it's a dumb ass project.
also LM contract with the govt... and gets tax payer dollars so wtf are you even on about?
and again I would still say it's a dumb ass project when we could be reinvesting that money directly back Into our country and building better roads and railways.
and if you'd have bothered to read nothing you pointed out in that Wikipedia copy paste is new info to the conversation I don't care other countries are invested I to it. and also that's only pure buying costs not maintanance and also retiring current jet fighters.
maybe you should read. gov articles I linked earlier.
I'll end it again with fuck the f35 project there's far far bettter things to spend that money on.
also your point about stopping putin is so silly. that's a completely different budget. you do realize that ONTOP of this dumbass f35 project we still send money to ukraine?
and also wtf is your point putin is still invading. even with the f35 program? like what is it stopping. why do you guys think just adding more firepower will somehow magically stop conflict it's wild. it's a fallacy.
the jet is dumb we can roll it out it won't change the amount of war because war is called by instabillity and there are other ways to fix that. we already have nukes as the ultimate deterannt a fucking jets not gonna have more sway than a nuke when it comes to hmmm which country am I invading. we're good like a jet isn't the end all be all to that. it's whether or not you're in nato.
dude we already have nuclear submarines and fucking air craft carriers like gtfo here with your MIC propaganda like we're some defenseless maiden strolling through the woods without yet more BILLIONS going into this shit when people here are starving and burdened with medical debt and literally going homeless bro.
I'm calling out the government for wasting funds and using literal slave labor... and you're more concerned that I edited their traditional headdress into the picture.
I can be racist of they are being worse is not a defense. Using traditional garb to disparage a nationality isn't the anti-racist argument you think it is.