Why are you so liberal?

It's even simpler, "empathy" should do it. Conservatives also care a great deal about gay rights, abortion access, government safety nets... as soon as it affects them personally.

I think you mistook Leftism for Liberalism

Meh, these are very vague points in which liberals (as in liberalism) mostly believe though.

"Why are you so socialist?" Because I care about people other than myself.

or because you have nothing to lose from it in your current situation
That’s liberal. I mean, you can fancy it up how you like, but in any state in the union that’s considered liberal.
Just not here, depending.
- Colloquially liberal as opposed to the more strict political philosophical definition.
  If you are going with the latter none of the above statements are strictly liberal as liberalism is defined by a very personal property based capitalism forward structure and a focus on personal freedoms balanced by a set of assumed privileges.
  By the political philosophy definition both Republicans and Democrats are liberal. A growing number of people find the issue of the USA's strict adhereance to old school philosophic liberalism the main problem of both parties since it does fuck all to check the accrual of personal property or provide safety nets. If you wanted to be more accurate by the change in social standard in the place you find yourself the above values in the post are safest "Progressive". At least keeping this definition in mind helps navigate a lot of the conversation of politics in many Lemmy instances.
- It's also considered Christian, but PedoCon MAGA Nazis will deport you to a torture prison in El Salvador if you say it.
- Only if you describe everyone left of center as liberal. There's a whole liberal capitalist population who don't want to make the changes required to ensure members of society are healthy and have the required care, because it would inconvenience them.
- Yeah, it’s lexicon vs literal definition.
  How people generally use words often makes me wonder why we have dictionaries at all.

Then there was scouting……

service to others
cleaning up nature areas
recycling drives

And this was in the 1970s, so I don’t know what happened to the world since, especially with environmental awareness and action.

My experience as a Cub Scout in the 1970s (I never made it to Boy Scouts) was that we would give a few minutes of half-assed effort towards some activity like making clay roses or construction paper houses, and then we'd go outside and play "Smear the Queer" the rest of the afternoon. This game is inconceivable in today's world, not just because of the horribly inappropriate name but also because it was just mob violence for little boys. One kid would pick up the football and run around while everyone else tried to slam them into the ground, at which point some other kid would pick up the football and run around with it. I guess I was smarter than everybody else because it soon occurred to me that picking up the football was a really dumb idea.
I did spend a lot of time volunteering at the local recycling center, though. My parents (slightly older hippies) were so proud of me, but they didn't realize I did it because of all the porn magazines we found. Like, I literally had a closet filled with duplicate copies of Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler and Oui.
- People still love football and rough housing. Boys still wrestle and tackle each other all the time. I don't know if they call it smear the queer anymore, but frankly we never called it smear the queer in front of adults, so I dunno
  I think even more boys are lifting these days than back then, but I have no concrete evidence beyond the boys I've met.
  I do feel sad about how easy porn is to procure now. It used to be something special to have a magazine and be able to share it with friends. There's a comedian who talks about "porn in the woods" and like, I remember porn in the woods. It was the little free library of teenage boys before hipsters started making little free libraries. Knowing where it was stashed was a big deal. You couldn't let that info fall into the wrong hands, and adding to the collection was like being in the club; A real pillar of the community. Depending on the story of how you got it, it could even make you a hero
  I hope there's something out there that's taken it's place in boy society

... and that's why I joined ICE.

(Seriously, why is the image some guy wearing a face mask?)

Not revealing too much about you is a smart move
Looks like it's just standard cold weather gear. Looks like he may be hiking/ skiing/ backpacking in cold weather.
- But, why choose that image to go with that text?
Must be on his way to kidnap a yeti

im further left than whoever made this, so dont take it the wrong way but this is a fucking stupid meme. Surely the libs can do better than this... whatever this is... right? Like... this is some boomer-tier stuff

See that's my only problem with other people on the left.... Conservatives will always support other conservatives. They'll vote for them regardless.
Liberals, Progressives, leftists, they'll kneecap other without hesitation because they can't stand simple progress. They want radical change. And if you can't provide that, then they won't vote, they won't support anyone, they'll talk absolute shit about candidates, ideas, etc.
God forbid anyone tries to sell progressivism to the public... You can always guarantee a leftist will come out of the fucking woodworks to poo poo on it because it's just not left enough for them. Assholes.
- Liberals, Progressives, leftists, they'll kneecap other without hesitation because they can't stand simple progress. They want radical change.
  Agreed 100%. And I'd expand it further (and more impactfully) many moderates would rather let the country delve into fascism than the mystery box of progressivism that (in their mind) might eventually lead to fascism or higher taxes when they finally become a billionaire.
  Moderates and progressives need to agree on a candidate (primary), then both sides need to support them.
- A leftist correctly critized me today. I guess we can't ever have nice things anymore.
- Liberals are not on the same end of the political spectrum as leftists. That is why leftists don’t like dealing with them or joining forces with them. Because 9 times out of 10, on issues leftists care about, liberals will side with the right wing.
- Conservatives will always support other conservatives
  . . . So what's a "RHINO"?
  Rightists turn on each other for purity tests all the time. Especially amongst the racist ones.
- It's talking passed eachother. Something any of us can do. No one here should have a problem with what's in the meme. Liberal in general conversation is a good thing. Everyone wants liberal amounts of freedom. Or liberal amounts of butter on their toast. Etc Etc Etc.
  The average person is so ignorant they don't have an understanding of any political structures to have anything of value to say. So most don't. It was never intended as liberal as in economic liberal, or neoliberal both basically meaning capitalists. Chances are they all have similar gripes to us about capitalists. But simply have no understanding of how to voice it in an educated way. And this sort of behavior certainly isn't going to fix that.
  As anarchist I would have plenty of places I might disagree with someone who would self describe as liberal. But I know we have far more places we might agree. That neither of us identify with elected officials. That we both feel trapped in this system. That we both want it to be more answerable and representative. We might disagree on how and how much. But we'd both benefit working together against the system. And in the interaction. Perhaps they learn something new and become a proper new ally.
- Your last point isn't correct. You can find people like that on any side of the political spectrum.
  Regarding the first and second part, it can be simply due to Conservatives all being in a cult while being uneducated, while Liberals/Progressives/Leftists are mostly all educated and tend to have their own opinions.
- Conservatives will always support other conservatives. They'll vote for them regardless.
  That's not true. But I can't compel myself to waste time providing evidence when you won't read it in the first place. So fuck it, and fuck this community.
Me too but hey, if this resonates with some boomers I'm all for it.
I don’t know if that’s what it means though. I took it as the normal things everyone is taught in childhood, that conservatives agree with teaching, is now thought if as “left”
I can never really tell how un/intentionally memey the boomer aspect is anymore, but my brain might be broken. It's definitely a meme by libs, for libs though.
- shitlibs? Bourgeoise?
After seeing a bunch of tankie memes on Lemmy, I've become a bit more aware of the popularity of low quality "picture of text" memes that confirm you are correct and others are wrong. It's fine to have beliefs but saying you have them because you paid attention in school is silly.
- The point was that conservatives base their beliefs on lies and emotions, not information. And that's true.
“Well I went to middle school also guns bad”

For me its summed up by writer Pearl Buck:

“Our society must make it right and possible for old people not to fear the young or be deserted by them, for the test of a civilization is the way that it cares for its helpless members.”

"Liberal" without either putting "Social" or "Economic" in front of it, is a meaningless term.

It's not a meaningless term for the people who use it as a pejorative. For them, it encompasses everything they hate, however nebulous that set of things may be.
- Nah, for me it's meaning is a very specific group of right wingers. I also hate every other type of right winger too, so it's only encompassing one portion of my hate.
I mean, Webster’s disagrees with you.

Ah, so you admit schools are indoctrinating kids?

Define “So”.

Why aren't you?

OP's also liberal because supporting genocide isn't a disqualifier for the presidency.

I want to tell some of our friends this. Liberal doesn’t mean what they think it means. They can keep trying with “libs” and “shitlibs” and “lib cucks” or what ever Rush Limbaughisms, but they’ll never make any practical progress. Presuming that’s what they want and they’re not just Macedonian troll farm drones.

Actually doing the work of an elected office is difficult and boring, and compromise is going to be in there. It’s just how humans work together. Some leftist commenters are either lying or completely outside that reality.