Democrats vote down resolution calling for arms embargo on Israel, recognizing Palestinian state
Democrats vote down resolution calling for arms embargo on Israel, recognizing Palestinian state
www.timesofisrael.com
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So our choices are Nazi's or genocidal maniacs. Fuck the DNC.
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No they're both genocidal maniacs, one also dabbles on the homefront.
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Do you guys think Jeffrey Epstein was the first or the only guy using videos of United States politicians engaging in pedophelia to blackmail them for Israel?
Do you think Tom Artiom Alexandrovich knew Epstein, or his associates/handlers in Israel?
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To the surprise of no one.
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"Forming a task force" man, go fuck yourself. Do these assholes even know what's going on over there?
Fucking dicks
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The cartoonish evil is a feature, not a bug. The dems have held massive control over who's in power for decades. I don't care anymore if it's evil or stupid to field candidates guaranteed to turn the population right, it leads to the same outcome. They gain enough from having a big persecutin', government-controlling daddy like Trump that it doesn't matter, they have zero intention to change.
"Oh noes, we can't do all the things you poors and empathetic humans want, don't you know Trump is in charge?" (Something Hakeem Jefferies has basically said, referencing the American people making a "mandate" for Trumpism.)
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oh they're well aware but like the majority of first world nations, heaven forbid you upset Israel. Just look at the UK. you get arrested for even mentioning or wearing a t shirt with the P and/or G word.
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10 years from now the task force report comes out. "It was a genocide somebody should have stopped it. Let's form a new task force to figure out who was at fault."
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The trusty 4 stage strategy.
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Dems since the 1970s: "We need a two state solution"
Palestinians: "We're applying for statehood"
Dems: "No"
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What kind of a messed up headline is that?
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Serious question, what is wrong with the headline? The article is only 4 paragraphs long and the headline basically sums what is written in the article. Id get it if you thought the article itself was shitty but I stared at the headline long enough without seeing anything wrong so I gotta ask, what am I missing?
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The headline reads as if by voting against the embargo, they were recognizing a Palestinian state. Of course, with a bit of general knowledge about the situation, it should be clear that that is not the correct reading.
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The main problem with the headline is: which Democrats where? Which country? Is this an important bill with grave consequences or an opinion poll?
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A headline is supposed to convey a simple straight forward summary of the article, without any question or confusion about the content.
This headline is anything but straight forward .... it can mean multiple things to multiple different groups of people ... and the writer and news agency can feign ignorance and call it all a misunderstanding if anyone reading it questions the headline.
A sign of a bad news agency or an unreliable source is when they produce headlines that beg more questions about the presentation, journalist, writer, or news agency than the actual article they shared.
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You will also forget about all the damage republicans and trump does when they are no longer in control. Topical stupid cultist logic
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OK, let's break this down.
a) Democrats are not in control
b) They didn't signal support for a two state solution, even when there were 0 real costs because they are not in control
c) there's 0 reason to believe they would have voted differently if they were in control
ergo, this is very relevant, even if Republicans are worse.
Most incumbent Democrats need to be primaried out.
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I voted for Harris despite being a progressive social democrat with many preferred ideal candidates. I wasn't a couch sitter or part of the uncommitted vote.
But this comment is beyond absurd, lol.
This is exactly the time to be critical of the terrible oppositional leadership. Best time in fact to reform the Democratic party since we're powerless to do anything else.
Either you recognize this, or I'll tag you as a Trump supporter because believing otherwise literally only helps Republicans in 2026 and 2028.
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These people just don't believe in or don't want the world to be better. I voted Harris and will probably still vote for whatever presidential ghoul the Democrats push on us, but I'm done providing an ounce of support to team blue beyond that.
The party needs to be undermined for things to get better, because the party has done jack all to prove themselves. They have not been allies, but feudalistic opportunists exploiting the fascist takeover rather than doing anything productive. Unless we force them to share power with the left, they'll just take our support to line their pockets
However, people hear my criticism and only hear me as an anti-voter who will hurt their precious saviors. It's infuriating that they love the blue boot so much that they'll shit on anyone who refuses to deepthroat it.
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It was the DNC, not House or Senate. Wouldn't have been binding in any sense of the word ... so why not vote it through?
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While I wouldn't say it in quite the same terms as you, I feel what you are saying. I still have Young Turks in my podcast feed, and even as Taco is sending storm troopers into the country and flooding the zone with awful stuff meant to dismantle this country and completely end voting and end all freedoms, most of the content on TYT seems to be....raging at Israel and much of the time raging at Democrats over it. You'd think it was the only thing happening right now given the amount of episodes dedicated mostly to Gaza/Israel. I haven't caught up on Useful Idiots podcast either, but they suffered the same problems.
Yes, it's not great. But they should really consider the priorities here. Being a single issue person on Israel?
We have a fascist in the WH right now. Flogging the Democrats over Gaza and Israel is just performative bullshit at this point.
Side quest - anyone have any good progressive podcasts to recommend? One that has not been taken over by scolds obsessed with Oppression Olympics and tone policing and shaming white men? One that addresses the problems of oligarchy and is not obsessed with talking about Israel and Gaza all the time? One that is actually looking to bring people into the fold, rather than coming up with criteria on filtering them out?
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Supporting Genocide abroad and allowing, often supporting even, the Fascist takeover at home aren't separate issues. They are two sides of the same coin and we see with this decision again, that supporting the Genocide comes with supporting the Fascist takeover rather than fighting it.
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Have you ever considered that maybe ignoring the anti genocide criticisms contributed to the Democrats' loss in 24? Have you ever considered that telling much of their base to stop complaining about it was not wise electoral politics? Have you ever considered that banning social media popular with the youth for doing the same spying that all corporate social media does was a bad idea? Did you even notice that they downplayed the severity of economic suffering, allowing Trump's anti solutions to be the only electoral voice to real pain? (it's the economy stupid!!!)
Trump won because the Democrats lost. They suck at being popular because corporate allegiance ties their hands from providing a populist alternative to fascism. They made so many tactical errors and have done nothing to course correct. I don't need to talk about the substance of Gaza to explain why the Dems fumbled it. They ignored and rejected voices that mattered, not only on that, but on countless other issues.
They backed away from supporting trans people in the campaign, lost, and only continue to distance themselves from us. They don't need to put up that distance; they could just ignore the issue and focus on the economy and violation of human rights by fascists, but they don't; they choose to complain about kids who just wanna play sports, because they never really wanted to be our allies. We didn't push them away; they did.
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Yet again, the rational voice is downvoted. Clearly no one bothered to read the article.
The resolution was not expected to pas.
‘Allow no nuance, logic, or common sense get in the way of our manufactured outrage!!”
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And what nuance, logic, or common sense do you have to offer exactly?
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People should only vote for things that they think are going to win, rather than voting their conscience?
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Wasn't expected to pass because the Democratic politicians are so removed from their base on this issue.
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What about republicans? How did they vote?
Exactly the same as the Democrats. Uniparty strikes again!