Fediverse still going strong and stabilizing

Graphs don't show the people who moved from "Reddit" to "Outside".

Also, any decline in the fediverse could also be being fed up with all the overwhelming political doomer posts and also decide to change their platform to "Going Outside".

So a decline can still be overall positive for human socialization, even if it might not be the best for the fediverse.

Edit: typo

So you're saying there's a slim chance the underdog can stick around & possibly become what Reddit was meant to be?

& The handful of those of us that make memes for this lost creature should continue to do so?

I always prefer the underdog. Reddit even unbanned me & I'm like "nope, you don't get to do that. I found a better friend that appreciates me in a more healthy way"

Here from Reddit, have high hopes. This is a marketing problem though, I doubt even 1% of Reddit users know of something like lemmy at all

It doesn’t help that all comments mentioning Lemmy are instantly shadowbanned or removed.
- They are not:
  https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1n00eoi/unless_youre_believing_in_and_waiting_for_digg/
  !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com

I've only been on Lemmy a few days and i can already tell i like it, but can understand the frustration in figuring out what an instance is, or what a federation is. But i personally have used linux for years, i'm a huge nerd, and i hate the way places like Reddit and facebook are owned by republican idiots who refuse to let people talk poorly about the orange cult leader.

Nah thats not a frustration, just your ego settling down. Real frustration is realizing most instances die or have shit registration functions, along with most having unfamiliar names that you'll also have to remember. Most apps have been a nightmare with this, genuinely just say fuck it and dont even care about this account.
The federation system is cool but not unique, its just what all servers have been doing and now theres a choice being handed to the user as well. It doesn't really defeat a centralized system.
I always though about something like folding at home but for a social media. Essentially the same thing as a centralized network, but with a scheduled 'decay' as main issue for large sites is the actual horde of content. Text based instances could have longer decay time with a refresh basis for visits. With an archival option for regular post, and a trend option for porn-centric instances.
Porn often exploit and subverts most services like this however I think it is a very influential thing that cannot be banned nor freely allowed. However, one can only really generalize so much about porn - but it is a strong way for those in power to subscribe others to their ideals. So noticing trends like the porn hub chart is important. Someone should study 4chan porn trends since 2012 to now. Huge dynamic shift in thread titles alone. All that free fox marketing of the fappening really got their target demographic hooked and the later pepe dogwhistle. Hooboy.
- shit registration functions
  ... and there are some shit moderators here, just like on Reddit
  ... and there are some really high-value communities here, because of really good moderation -- just like on Reddit
  EDIT: But it's Federated, and therefore much more self-healing in that decentralized Internet way
Reddits transformation into a Nazi sympathizing shithole was remarklably swift. Don’t get me wrong, that place was going downhill the second they decided their user base was a product, but it pivoted from generic corporate advertising shithole to fascist friendly nuclear waste pit with remarkable speed. So many micro pud incels willying to volunteer for the brown coats, it’s disgusting.
- Damn, reddit turned nazi now? I haven't really paid attention to it for some time, what happened?
Welcome !
!newtolemmy@lemmy.ca
!communitypromo@lemmy.ca

Just joined eviltoast and using voyager. Loving the switch from reddit.

I'm actually in a state of confusion over the fediverse, reddit, and social media as a whole atm. I loved switching over to Lemmy because of the foss/decentralizing and lower user count at first. If I see a thread with 1500 comments I'm less likely to interact with it, like trying to hold a meaningful conversation at a concert event.

Forums and articles are slowing becoming harder to find for information without going through 6 AI pages repeating the same paragraph in 20 different ways without really telling you anything new, so that's slowly becoming more of a burden. Reddit is so inundated with mainstream now that even a specific trade community just has terrible trash comments that get upvoted and can even drown out a professionals real informational response (like youtube does a lot) but ... at least it's there I suppose.

Lemmy... well yes this space is "nerdy", but there's very few specific nerds. by that I mean like the true nerd definition of someone so into this one niche thing that they completely lose all touch with social ques because their area came up in conversation and they are salivating to talk about it. I just recently got told in the most popular pc build community here that they never really bothered looking at memory speed.... I was flabbergasted.

so idk what I would like to see Lemmy become or the future of these types of sites in general. I forced myself to make that post on the pc build community because I was going through the process and maybe it would help someone out in the future and a little socializing while going through a project seems interesting. But, I have so many other posts I think about and just don't do because it's going to be either generic responses or me talking into the void with putting a lot of work into collecting all the data I have and formatting it/etc. Time is always limited, so it's a battle over priorities and responsibilities.

Is there a merch store or sumthing we can buy to advertise this awesome place and help support it?

I think the active users per half month might be a more useful metric than total accounts because that includes all the dead accounts.

Tf happened on those 2 days?

The crawler probably went down and did not record anything

I came here from Reddit after figuring out the platform is beyond saving

the problem with this place is it's not user-friendly. and the posts/comments are too nerdy/niche for most people. my lemmy frontpage is like 50% linux nonsense. ordinary people dont' know what linux is.
- Ive been here over a year and I still don't know wtf is going on. I don't know what aussie.zone is, I don't know what "local" is versus "all", I don't know what "all" includes and why it changes. I don't know how to find new subs except accidentally on "all", my brother wanted to drop Reddit and join Lemmy, I had no clue how I signed up.
  But, after all that it's still better than Reddit.
- My problem is less the nerdy and niche stuff. Because there’s a lot of communities and you can subscribe to what you like.
  My problem is more how there’s a lot of debate lords, arseholes, and I’m the smartest in the world types.
  But I guess that’s the case on all social media. Really shits on what’s otherwise a nice experience here tho.
- Ordinary people know what Linux is, they just don't care about. So the effect is the pretty much the same, but for different reasons.
- if it's less niche it will be flooded with ragebait and covert ads and such. better it stays a bit more niche. that's why i'm fine with it being a little bit more nerdy than other mainstream platforms.
- I see those posts all the time and even I'm not totally sure
Ditto.
Welcome to the Threadiverse! 😁

Having spent about 2 years on Lemmy, I made the commitment to ditch YouTube in favor of PeerTube.

At first, it may look like there's mostly garbage and then some privacy enthusiasts, but that's only because recommendations and search are not very powerful compared to other platforms.

PeerTube is home to troves upon troves of high-quality original content on various topics, you just have to look for it. And for your YouTube-exclusive needs, there are instances that mirror popular channels.

Give it a spin!

Can you give me a small list of channels producing such high quality content on Peertube?
- What the other commenter said, look for these instances, especially TILvids
  Other than these, some specific recommendations:
  Gardiner Bryant (gbryant@subscribeto.me) - tech YouTuber dipping toes into PeerTube
  Oh The Urbanity! (ohtheurbanity@video.canadiancivil.com) - urbanism and sustainable development
  ASMR of the Fediverse (asmrfediverse@peertube.wtf) - self-explanatory, ASMR videos specifically produced and released on the Fediverse. Exclusive high-quality content!
  Making Waves/Roots and Calluses (makingwaves@video.katehildenbrand.com & katehildenbrand@video.katehildenbrand.com) - personal/professional blogs of a marine biologist Kate Hildenbrand, both very worth a watch
  Veronica Explains (veronicaexplains@tinkerbetter.tube) - a very cute and non-typical Linux channel from a veteran tech enthusiast
  Films (films@fedi.video) - old but gold public domain films
  Historical Shorts (historical@fedi.video) - some more tapes from the past
- Difficult to recommend specific channels as I don't know what you'd like, but I've found high quality content hosted on these instances :
  https://makertube.net/
  https://tilvids.com/
  https://video.hardlimit.com/
  Other creators host their own instance. For example there's @ozoned doing interview of fediverse people at https://video.firesidefedi.live/
- Take a look at !peertube@lemmy.world (or the links on the side) and look at Top. Maybe you will see some channels you would like.
  And if your on piefed, you can take a look at https://piefed.social/f/fediversevideos, lots of great channels!
PeerTube Companion LINK
Try browser extension. It redirects youtube videos to peertube when it detects the same video on both sites.
- Nice find, thanks!
Peertube takes awhile to figure out/get going. Other stuff like Mastodon/Akkoma, Lemmy/Piefeed, were easy to figure out to the point where I just set up my own Akkoma instance on my server.
Peertube...oof that took awhile. Yeah the problem is the recommendations and search. you really have to get in there and dig through the top layer of shit before you find the diamonds underneath. There are some FANTASTIC tutorial channels on PeerTube for dev stuff, linux, game dev, etc.
Also the other problem is finding a good Peertube instance. Don't go by whatever lists are out there, it's honestly via word of mouth that you'll find the good ones which is sort of a shame. I think that's the main thing that's holding it back. for stuff like Mastodon or even Piefeed/Lemmy what instance you're on doesn't matter all that much as their all incredibly connected and pretty much provide you with the same "front end" so to speak.
Peertube? it's a mess in most cases. Some instances are super duper customized to the instance owners preferences, others are barely searchable, etc so in a way unlike other fediverse stuff Peertube feels a bit disconnected from itself
PeerTube is home to troves upon troves of high-quality original content on various topics,
~~Any recommendations?~~
OP answered in other comment: https://lemmy.today/comment/18705168
Could you post some recommendations?
- Gave here: https://lemmy.today/comment/18705168
  Enjoy!
I just don't use youtube, I prefer reading blogs anyway but I'll look around!
- I love text blogs, but sometimes videos do a better job to entertain/get the point across for me :)
  Hope you'll find some treasures of your own!
- I only use YouTube to pirate their content

I'm curious what it will look like when school starts

Why would this change anything?

ok. so i’ve got around 30tb (and counting) of live music recordings from a small club that hosts national touring folk and americana acts. i would LOVE to have it accessible somewhere other than youtube with all the fukin ads, but i am not sure how to go about making them peer tube accessible.

the instances that i’ve looked into have pretty low caps on storage and for clear and understandable reasons. but that leaves me in the lurch. i’m not able to set up my own instance as the recordings are ongoing and that takes all my available time and resources.

anyone have some knowledge that it don’t?

long live the fediverse.

You could upload the files to a S3 bucket, which would give them a url on the web. Then just make a PieFed post which links to each MP4 file.
Piefed will detect that it's a video post and embed it in the page with player controls. If you use a community just for your videos then the RSS feed of that community will effectively be a podcast.
S3 buckets are pretty cheap but 30 tb is still going to cost you. Transcode to a smaller file before upload, ideally.
- thanks for that. i’m currently saving up for more drives to create the second copy of the 1-2-3 backup scheme. the gang of 2tb ssd’s are all i’ve got aside from the compressed-to-fuck youtube copies. that’s been creating quite a bit of anxiety for me being in charge of so many other peoples artworks.
  we started in 2020 and do 6-10 90 minute shows a week, so it’s a lot to be responsible for. of course they aren’t all gems, but imo they all do deserve to be part of the larger document of this time and place.
  if anyone is interested the youtube videos are made searchable on https://www.livefromnorfolkstreet.com/
  click on the ARCHIVE link in the nav bar. no paywall.
  i’d recommend the alejandro escovedo shows. he’s always great and i did the live lights for a few of his shows.
- @rimu @turdburglar And it's worth noting that you don't have to use AWS for S3 buckets. I use iDrive, who are quite a bit cheaper than Amazon, and you can also opt to have your buckets on European servers, which may be a plus.
  I think they have generous discounts in the first year to hook you in, but even after that they're still cheaper than Amazon.
@turdburglar
I follow @LiveMusicArchiveUpdates
Which links to a lot of live music files at archive.org
Not sure if they would be interested.
Anyway good luck.
- i actually wrote to them a few months ago. i tried the library of congress as well since they took the alan lomax recordings.
  neither responded. that’s when i started looking at peertube.
I have no knowledge on such things, but I love this!

The Fediverse is more stable than my country's government

Finna guess right quick.
US?
- Could also be The Netherlands, where an already fallen government managed to fall again. (meaning that 2 of the 4 leading parties have so far stepped out of the coalition)
- Had to look at my keyboard to translate that.
Wow, I wonder why.
- If only we could move as easily as we can switch servers.

Data looks great thanks for sharing

The Fediverse is the way. In this Financialised capitalism, capitalist platforms will continue to be enshitified as they only tend to shareholders interests of continual growth. They do not care about humans.

We need to keep this momentum going.

Thank you for sharing

Thank you for caring!

Glad I joined it!💪👋

We're glad you're here too!

For the last two years there's been periods where I'd use Lemmy religiously for a month and then not touch it for three. Lemm.ee shutting down killed a lot of my motivation and excitement, but I'm back on the rollercoaster.

for me it's mostly when i get flooded by comments from extremist nutbags. at least on lemmy they arne't reporting me to get me banned site-wide. they mostly just send me links via messaging to 'educate' me. which is annoying but not pathetic.
- The bullet points, right? I think that guy is botting. It's a shame that instance-level bans aren't more comprehensive.
I had a similar problem with Lemmy.one. It was the push I needed to move over to Piefed, and I'm glad I did.
2-year lemm.ee user and general fan of all things Eesti, yeah. That one hurt. But I’m grateful my handle there still exists, and Lemmy’s still home, thanks to some very nice Canadians. Sure af ain’t going back to reddit/xhitter, etc.
Good to see you back!
- <3
RIP lemm.ee, sunaurus' wonderful mustache will live on in our hearts.
i noticed alot less content without lemee.ee, mainly because people scattered to other instances.
- Most of the lemm.ee communities went to a single community, the drop in content is mostly due to summer

Seems like nobody cares about pixelfed here

We need more federated systems

Lemmy could use more OC in niche communities.

Most posts are links to other websites.

It might be good to try and post OC from Lemmy or the rest of the Fediverse to mainstream social media sites as a form of exposure.

Maybe we can get this type of idea to become more common here.

Lemmy is a link aggregator. Reddit is as well. Sure, Reddit has started to generate a lot more OC over the last decade, but it took over a decade for that to pick up momentum and gain millions of active users. I don't want a mindless cesspool of half-assed OC. I mostly just want an easy one-stop-shop for news, memes, and discussions.
- Discussions are, arguably, their own type of OC. Like this thread as one example. That's the kind of thing I, and I suspect @fujiwood@lemmy.world, would love to see more of.
- It didn't take a decade for OC on smaller communities. I've been using Reddit since 2009. There was plenty of OC since ~2012.
!fedigrow@lemmy.zip
too bad alot of them are still significant on reddit, and are unlikely to move here, unless they all get banned somehow. we might see more users here if reddit does another ban wave, although i think reddit mightve figured shadowbanning is much more useful.
- most of the banning comes from the bigger subs, not the small niche ones.
  every time i have been banned it's from political comments in a larger sub. never a niche one. my last ban was for supporting the mayor in a city subreddit. apparently it's 'enabling racism' to mention the race of your mayor in a positive light.

Are those two drops to zero a reporting error?

I came to ask why everyone suddenly deleted their account
Those are legs so the line doesn’t fall down.
No. Everyone just decided to stop using the fediverse a couple of times for like a day. Guess you missed it.
- Touch Grass Day
All ~14M users quit the fediverse simultaneously on that one day and changed their mind a day later
yes, probably from fediverse.observer itself going offline
- Then they need to be removed for normalization of the data and average daily volumes.
Probably.

Not sure how you define strong but MAU has been dropping quite consistently for the past year or so.

r/Redditalternatives describes the various reasons that people decided to abandon Lemmy and go back to Reddit:
lack of content
too difficult to figure out how to use
it's "the place that tankies built"
too toxic, extremist leftists piling on anything not supporting their dogma hard enough (edit: here is an actual example), or sometimes just "too political"
overall they do not feel welcomed. Tbf many on Reddit are centrists or even conservatives, and quite toxic themselves.
Notably, PieFed provides solutions to many of these e.g. the sign-up wizard that subscribes people to communities based on their indicated interests.
- I was referring to the entire fedi is losing users. Appreciate sharing about Lenin.
- Conservatives: "All these big websites keep gradually sucking for some unknowable reason. They must all just have the wrong people in charge."

If lemmy implement passkey and show all the comments of the post like in piefed with ccp social credit shit. I will hope back to it

Once we KICK THE TANKIES out of the THREADIVERSE we can get these numbers really cranking

Baby girl, the "tankies" (what does that word even mean anymore?) That you're so scared of, made the god damn platform you're on!
Why did you people even leave Reddit?
- They heard that there were people to their left they hadn't shat on yet.
[Numbers drop in half immediately]

What’s with masto’s spontaneous drop in posts and contemporaneous rise in users about a month ago?

it must've been a big instance going offline (or switching platforms? or blocking the stats collection?)
also note a lot of those graphs don't start at 0, the Y axis is zoomed

not loving the inorganic appearance in some of those rises and climbs. the sudden ones or the curved ones.

The first big jump lines up with the Reddit API Controversy. The June 2025 rise and fall is users migrating from lemm.ee, and then their previous accounts becoming inactive. I imagine the other irregularities are from similar events
- Thank you for correcting a lazy, ignorant hot-take.