MAGA's plan for a white Christian America is unfolding before our eyes

Fuck religion.

Religious participation is plummeting as the compassionate and reasonable people disassociate from Christianity

The right is splintering, and the Kirk shooter being a neonazi shows this

This sounds like good news but they currently hold power. This is when they lash out the hardest.

The truth is all this is above America. Live for humanity. Nations are tools for the sinister minded wealthy. If they don't have tools they can't work. Live for humanity.

Maga is Christian in name only. If hell is real, they're all going to hell because nothing they do has anything to do with Christ's teachings.

This. They would never dare attend services in non-white churches and would be hostile to newcomers that appear “different” in their own communities. These folks quickly abandon the teachings of Jesus Christ to fight for “racial purity” hands down.
Maybe so but that's of very little value to me.
Everything you said is true, but the maga label narrows the context unnecessarily. It's been the Republican MO for decades, and the Democrats have generally presented as less forceful christians. But it's because it works on the people they target with it.
Ironically, MAGA makes me want to believe in christian religion. Bc they would all go straight to the boiler room in hell for eternity.

Project 2025 is a shit show and would turn the USA into 1979 Iran.

And 1979 Iran was helped to start by the CIA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Iran
America just loves dictatorships so much it wanted a new one here at home.
*is turning. It’s over halfway implemented and accelerating fast

Remember when they put out a document that told us that they were going to do this, and exactly how, and people ignored it or called it "propaganda"?

I feel like the idiots who did this had troll's calling it propaganda to make folks think it was bullshit

Stop. Blaming. Maga.

This is the GOP. They fucking TOLD you this was the plan.

MAGA or GOP what's the difference?
- One of these will be pilloried and eventually destroyed. The other will blame the prior for all its bad actions, claim innocence and continue onwards
- There's many, including those in dem leadership, who think maga is just a small part of gop and eventually it'll go away and gop will go back to how it was.
  They don't want to acknowledge or admit this is what gop has always been
Dude, the GOP = MAGA.
The republicans that were around during bush 2 are gone. That party is gone. The problem is that people that consider themselves Republican like the politicians from that era and before, haven’t not realized that the modern GOP is the same in name only.
- Those Republicans aren't gone. They're just Democrats now because the entire spectrum of political discourse in the US has shifted that far right.
  Remember when the Cheneys found themselves on the outs with the Republicans? Their alliance with Dems would have been utterly unthinkable 25 years ago, but look at them now. As Republicans move further right and Democrats keep trying to court "centrist" voters, all they're doing is moving their party to the right.
- Thank you for reiterating his point?

“Christian”

Theofascist.

Nationalist Christians, or NATCs for short
- Thanks for this lol
MAGAts must be very jealous of Iran and Afghanistan.
"white"
Not that it matters but cmon, lol.

““Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25‬:‭41‬-‭46‬ If only more people who claimed to follow Christ read and listened to what Jesus actually had to say about the kinds of people they are persecuting.

This might be my new favorite bible quote.
I've never had one before. I've been aware of a bunch. Maybe I would have chosen Austin 3:16 for a while as a smart ass teenager in the 90s. But now I have one and it's this.
Maybe it was intentional and maybe it was luck, but to me this brief passage reaches deep into kinds of things that make for happy vs miserable people.
I can't help but notice how Jesus pretty clearly points out that there is no hierarchy when it comes to caring for one another.

This is such an interesting article, thanks for sharing :)

In general, i'm pro-balkanization mostly because i don't see a common future for the people in the US anymore, and splitting up the region into smaller communities might have the advantage that people can hold their representatives more directly liable, because they live closer-by.

There’s lots of paternalistic Daddy talk these days that centers on the need to “protect the American people.”

It would be good if the government actually protected the american people from economic hardship. A quarter of americans can't find jobs who cover life's needs, and the situation is gonna get much worse over the next 10 years due to automation and AI.

In that sense, implementing a universal basic income would be good, though i'm not sure what the conservative speakers had in mind with that.

According to most reports, his underlying message was reflected in a reckless refrain heard throughout the conference: “You can just do things!”

You might have to.

If the USA will split up in the evangelical right and liberal left then you'll end up with one super power, now unburdened by the anchor weight of the red states, and one theocratic third world banana republic dictatorship that will be unable to feed its own population
At this point, is any red states even able to take care of itself without federal support?
Either way, I'm all for it too, let these antisocial religious idiots suffer in their own little north korea corner, but be sure they won't get any nukes as they're very Apocalypse culty
- Will there be refugee programs for those of us in red states? The second you give these fuckers Gilead, they’ll start culling LGBT people and life will get a lot worse for anyone with the wrong amount of melanin in their skin.
- Part of the problem is that the divide is more urban vs rural than state by state. We might end up with dozens of city states with all the tech and money, but none of the staples of life and vast tracts of impoverished rural thocracies that can only survive by selling food and raw materials to the city states.
- i dunno texas and ohio make a LOT of food
- I imagine Texas, maybe, but it’s a gas station at that point I’d imagine as things that are different to that would probably want to leave.
  A lot of everywhere else would be a whole mess with progressive cities being screwed by the rest of the state with many of them leaving before the borders close and those that couldn’t being trapped in hell.
I'll take NE & NY together.
I'm sure West Coast can figure out their group.
I don't give a flying fuck about anyone else.
- is NE north east?

This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.

Let's forget a neolib Democrat was president and let an insurrection, election rigging, a child raping conspiracy, and more slide into the background.
You can literally vote blue and shit gets worse and then you're an asshole for not voting blue. Fucking maga shits of another color.
- Ah there's the "b b blue maga!" Lol.
The current state of American democracy is like having a cancer.
Dnc is the chemotherapy that might give you a few more years of losing sanity slowly, throwing up at all the steps. All the while withholding the medicine which might cure you but that is socialism.
Gop is quackery, it will kill you quicker but will be painful.
Not voting is like not taking any medicine. It is painful, it is guaranteed death but you are not wasting any of your resources on half measures.
- Ahh the "b b b b b b b both sides same!"
This is what Democratic leadership led us to.
Stop making this about the voters. Even if Kamala would have LIED about Gaza and made some amount of concessions, it would have rallied the factions. Her neoliberal ass couldn't even do that.
- Stop making this about the voters.
  Now that's a bizarre take. This is literally what people voted for.
Real leftists have moved on from the election, while.fake "centrists" are still scapegoating leftists for their own defeat. You didn't let us make any choices, you can't blame us for the results
- No true scotsman
- Who's scapegoating? I am informing protest-non-voters what they voted for. Who's blaming? I am informing protest-non-voters what they voted for.
- The ones that keep insisting people "move on" are the same as the ones being scolded. Weird how that works.
But don't you see how great things are in Gaza now? Surely the downfall of democracy was worth it.
- Nobody ever said Gaza would be better. We said that Democrats didn't deserve our vote because they offered no meaningful alternative
- Things in Gaza will be totally worth it when it is razed to the ground and a huge Trump resort is built on top of it. Gazans can work as waiters and masseuses where their houses used to be!
  At least we stuck it to GeNoCiDe JoE, though
- You're holding up a giant sign that says,
  "Surely those people willing to sacrifice another group's very existence will fight to stand up for MY civil rights!"
  This is just the left version of Leopards Eating Faces. No one who supports a genocide will lift a finger to protect your civil rights when they are threatened. The only people they care about are themselves. You are not one of the people that someone like Kamala or Biden consider worthy of respect or even consideration. You are beneath them just like the Gazans. If you support a genocide, you clearly view people as expendable and worthy of giving away at the political bargaining table.
  You learned nothing from the "first they came for..." poem.
- It's on you... The tide is turning, and Israel is done, it's officially a pariah state and while the price we Palestinians paid is way too high, at least most of the world is awake now. You're still sleeping.
  Democrats did nothing to stop Trump for four years when the fascist plan was in the open and he already attempted to overthrow democracy, they weren't gonna save this empire. Had they won, the genocide in Gaza would have continued just the same, but you'd be patting yourself on the back having voted for the "lesser evil."
  Decent people rejected your nonviable genocidal candidate, and instead of admitting you were wrong, you're blaming people who opposed genocide on your dime. You deserve Trump, and you'll deserve him more when you campaign for Newsom in the future rigged election instead of revolting.
- At least we won’t have survivor’s guilt
Read: I didn’t read the article
- He never does. Just mindlessly trolls and then sea lions when called out for it.
- That's an odd thing to say.
But Harris had a shrill laugh.
- ... Psst....
  The real reason she lost was that she has a vagina. But they know they can't say that out loud. So, "shrill laugh" it is
- Harris was an unpopular sold out corporatist that ran as the status quo and offered zero reform and zero fight against anyone increasingly screwing us, what the fuck did you expect to happen?
Bbbb bbbb but Blue Maga!!!
/s
- What did i do?
Not nearly enough protest voters to account for the massive losses of supporters Kamala suffered for her pro-war, pro-genocide, neocon friendly campaign. It was easily one of the worst run campaigns in my lifetime, and despite how abhorrent Trump is, you shouldn’t be surprised at this loss. And you should be ashamed for continuing to blame voters, instead of the failures that are DNC leadership. Who else do we know of who routinely blames the powerless victims for their failures, rather than hold themselves accountable? Be better.
All the Dems had to do was hold a primary in good faith to show they gave a damn about democracy. Couldn’t even do that. Losers.
- Who's blaming? I am informing protest-non-voters what they voted for.
Guess it was more important to make sure children kept getting massacred than winning the Muslim vote in Michigan.
- Dude you SOOO! RIGHT, now we can put the damned muzzis into AMERICAN CAMPS. I mean we sure showed those DemoRATS with GEnoCiDE JOE! Now American Muslims can experience genocide as well!
- You did it jonne, we have peace in Gaza!
Found the Republican. Republicans never miss a chance to try and stir up shit among the left.
- It's odd that you think informing protest-non-voters that this is what they voted for is stirring shit up. And lol no not republican.
Stop blaming the voters, this is all the Democrats' fault.
They made it clear they were not going to stop them and all anyone was doing was putting their neck out to be later chopped off.
They already knew being better than the other guy was not enough to win elections yet they kept the same strategy of being more sold out and more worthless every election, offered no reform, offered no fight against anybody screwing us, and ran as the status quo against a Republican party running as reform, knowing full well the voters do not know any better.
And here you are parroting The Establishment Democrats' bullshit to justify staying in power to fail us again in perhaps our last chance to take the country back in 2028 during the succession fight before elections are fixed completely.
- Who's blaming? I am informing protest-non-voters what they voted for.
Everything republicans do is the progressives’ collective fault, and liberals never do anything wrong ever.
- Yes, not voting is a vote for whoever won, it's the same reason being "apolitical" doesn't exist.
- Nice strawman. Also, I am informing protest non-voters what they voted for.
Wait. Are we still talking about protest-non-voters? Trump hand gestures
- Got another 3 years and 7 months of informing protest-non-voters what they voted for. Longer if you include time to fix things, which may be never.

This is news? ... as in something new?

White Christian America has been promoting this for years

Yeah, 250 years.

I think “NatCons” is a great name for the fascist American right. It’s like they just handed it to us.

"NatC" is generally considered sufficient.
- Did NatC that coming.
- Beautiful

In what way, shape or form is that christian? It's fascism. When will the media finally call a spade a spade?

Christians can be fascists.
See the right wing in the USA for an example.
Christians have always been cool with fascism.
- [Dietrich Bonhoeffer has entered the chat.]
Christian fascism has been a thing for a loooooong time.
Christofascism is the spade. Fascism is the tool.
There were always more meanings to "christian". Some of them rather sinister.
Francis acknowledged that America never had a national myth of a glorious past but thought it was a good idea to invent one. As Ganz archly observed, “the word for the politics that makes a pastiche of past glories to create a new type of regime is ‘fascism.'”

Taking my content back, fuck Lemmy 👎

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Bye Felicia. Good luck finding smart people on NeoTwitter lmao.

Says "Stormbringer"? Sir, this is not a Nazi bar.
- Op meant stromboli.
Christians are anti-racist BY NATURE. There are very few actual white nationalists and zero with any political power, despite what you've been told via the hyperbolic Democrat rhetoric and their paid online spokespersons and former mainstream news outlets.
- Dude has a username of stormbringer, is trying to deflect for the Nat-C’s and has a comment history of nothing but removed by mod. Gonna go head and block that guy and move on haha.
- Christians are anti-racist BY NATURE
  well, this much at least used to be true historically. back 2000 years ago, when christianity was invented, it was normal that each ethnic group had their own religion. i.e. a god represented an ethnicity, instead of an idea.
  zoroastrianism, later judaism and christianity tried to change that by making god represent an idea, instead of an ethnic group. you could say it's the transition from ethnics to ethics.
  they welcomed everyone who shared the same ideals as them, (including strangers and foreigners), and that changed the world. it was basically an anti-racist movement and one that tried to focus on intellectual insights and deep convictions instead of birthplace and color of skin.
  it is in this context particularly funny that white nationalists are using christianity as a reason for their racism. because that's literally the opposite of what christianity was invented to do.
  i'm well aware that christianity has enshittified a lot in the modern age and that it's nothing but an empty, hollow word now. just saying.
This is completely asinine. Look at the cabinet.
Bad faith actor spitting propaganda. Don’t waste the effort.
- Yup, was about to.
Damn that's some "reject the evidence of your eyes and ears" shit
The current administration is made up of white nationalists, but sure, live in whatever fantasy land you currently believe in.
Source this out for me. Because atheists are like 1% of the US population at least. There are more white national Christians at your local mega churches than white atheists in the county.
A lot of speculation on your part without any evidence to the contrary. If you want to engage in good faith dialogue, be prepared with sources and not personal opinions.
Also your username in itself is a reference to white nationalism, so...
- I hate to sound this clueless when others here seem to know, but I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction re: “stormbringer” and its WS association, because all I’m finding in search is the name of a sword in an old fantasy series that doesn’t appear to be a NatC favorite or otherwise associated with WS ideas.
  I’m familiar with “stormtroopers” (the fictional Star Wars Imp infantry and historical Nazi soldiers), “stormfront” (the WS website and the WS villain from The Boys) but figured the nominal format of storm-____ wasn’t necessarily WS (at least, I can think of a few counterexamples).
  So is “stormbringer” a dog whistle or something?
Christians don't exist "by nature". While it's accurate that a true Christian wouldn't be racist, they don't exist in meaningful enough numbers to lead the church away from the bigots who've overtaken it. Christians would never vote for a pathological liar and admitted sexual deviant, but look where we are. Your concept of Christianity is commendable, but naive and incongruent with reality. The fact you think it's a political party poisoning the world against Christianity and not the actions of Christians just points out your own biases and propaganda-fed misconceptions. I know Trump is not an actual Christian, but he certainly claims to be and he's definitely a white supremacist. And since the church put him in power and continue to support him voraciously, they effectively are all racists now. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
AGREED! People DONT know that it's actually BLACKIES that are the Racist and NOT us ~~Correct~~ White Christians!