Anon buys a car
Anon buys a car
Anon buys a car
Dealerships are just another middle man leech that needs to be cast off if we are ever to find peace in this life.
But people seem to have low standards, and they remain.
Dealerships are a reasonable middleman to exist. They provide a legal entity within the state, which is useful for resolving conflicts. They simplify logistics for manufacturers by having set places to deliver larger amounts of cars, and handle issue that arise from shipping more reliably than singular customers.
There are downsides to them, but none of them actually get better by removing dealerships and having people deal with GM or Toyota directly where there's even more power imbalance.
I really believe, if you cannot buy a "internal rocket launcher powered go machine" on your own, you shouldn't have it.
I'm sick of people using dangerous technology without knowing anything about it. I'm not asking people to be able to build it... just know the gas laws at least.
Lemmy is weird as fuck have you ever bought a car? What exactly do you think goes on at a car dealership? Do you think they make you take a class on how to operate a car when you buy one?
I don't really understand how that improves safety. I guarantee you don't know how your computer works because no one knows how a computer works.
It's all too damn complex now.
Was a Honda mechanic for a very long time. The base level knowledge of how stuff just works always surprises me. 90s level and earlier cars you could fix alot on your own. 2003 and beyond though, cars are too damn complicated. For mechanics working on them, the labor rate never went up to match the complications with the new crap they put out.
In some places you can build your own. While not very popular, there are several exo-cars that can be purchased as "build your own" kits. They're a nightmare to register, because of safety regs and the difficulty in getting a VIN, but it can be done.
They would know exactly who he is walking back into that dealership the next day
I think the meme hinges on the idea that the dealership has to do business with him. The dealership has every right to never do business with him again.
Worked at a gas station in my early 20s and met my fair share of "you have to make business with me" people. They live in a very different and very weird world, coincidentally that mindset is usually combined with a very obnoxious personality in general.
what if his friend walked in instead and bought the car for him?
If he just had his buddy do the second part of the story instead, it would have been believable. But, it would have missed the emotional payoff that way.
would only work if buying in full and would still require a messy title transfer and taxes when he gives the vehicle over.
the best way would be to have the non-buyer do the first part then the person that actually wants it do the second.
that said, it would still probably give you a big hit to your credit score unless buying outright, and if you can afford to buy the cat in cash you probably don't need to be running two man cons for a discount in the first place.
And it would've required him to have a buddy in the first place
That's the joke
You mean 29 days later, when he gets a car at 1/4 price
Especially when you returned a car.
That's standard procedure here. It's called Tageszulassung (one day registration): Dealerships register new cars on their own name for one day, so they're able to sell them as "used". This allows them to sell the car with a higher discount than they're normally allowed to, according to their contract with the manufacturer.
For the customer it means they get a better price, but otoh they have to take the car as it is and can't choose which extras they want. For the dealership it means they can sell more cars, making them eligible for bulk discounts themselves. And the manufacturer is also somewhat ok with that because they sell more cars without being forced to lower the catalogue price.
I bought my own return back off amazon warehouse for a fraction of the price, does that count?
I think it qualifies.
In Brazil, back in the 80s, i bought cheap older LPs and changed the price tag to that of a new LP.
Then i would exchange them for new records. So i always got new stuff for half the price.
It worked until i had each one my school friends go to the store once to reclaim the replacement, after i did it the first time.
It only worked in that specific store, because of the way they tagged the prices on the LPs.
Does this count somehow?
No new cars have 0 miles. They have all been driven in transit at various stages. No one cares that you drive one like this. Carfax is garbage nonsense anyways. All that shows is the state record which likely wasn't processed within 30 days. Most dealers are on a monthly or quarterly cycle anyways. Like with my auto body paint business most of my dealers paid my purchase orders monthly, some quarterly. That sucks because I had to float the funds in between, and automotive paint has enormous overhead relative to profit margin. I doubt any dealer is filing paperwork on any sale immediately. The 30 day window is likely just formalizing the filing window that already existed, and likely coincides with an increased filing window for dealers. No dealer really cares about individual sales like this anyways. The thing everyone cares about is volume and turnover rate. Everyone also knows only fools with too much money buy new or from dealerships. New cars burn tons of money from day one, and almost all used cars at lots are lease returns or repos. In both cases the car is beat and unmaintained. No one I worked around at many dealerships owned a car off the lot. I went to wholesale auctions as an agent a few times and it is a joke of a clown show. I started buying stuff off Craigslist to sell to dealers on the side when business was slow, because much better cars can be found this way and for better prices than auctions without the nonsense constraint of never being able to drive the auction cars prior to sale. I have never owned a car that sold for less than I paid for it initially, which is a brag few people even think about or realize is possible. You just need to know how to spot a deal, and cool rare cars people will still want to drive in the future.
almost all used cars at lots are lease returns or repos. In both cases the car is beat and unmaintained.
I was with you until this point. You forgot about trade-ins. Dealers love getting folks trapped in a revolving line of car loans especially if they can convince those folks to keep coming back to them every 3 years for a different vehicle to buy on a 72 month loan, max out their debt to income and convince them to buy an ESP or two. With customers like that they can sell cars a bit above market price, pocket the kickbacks from the both the ESP provider and the lender and the finances are kept simple because all of the money is coming in B2B. This requires keeping folks coming back and trading in vehicles before the vehicles are too worn to be worth their effort. It's scummy as shit and preys on consumers not understanding loan terms, and their fears as they are not knowledgeable of how vehicles work and wear, but at the very least the cars themselves can still be perfectly decent for those who managed to avoid a revolving vehicle debt cycle
I dunno I got a new car off the lot years ago and it’s been treating me perfectly well. Of course I hardly drive in the first place so it’s not like I put a ton of miles on the thing. 2017 model with a little over 30k
Then a used car purchased for 25% less (or more) would've been an even greater value.
My last purchase was a 3 year old car from a small dealer that I paid half the new price - they depreciate that hard rolling off the lot. And it was in perfect condition.
Fuck buying new.
at uni I got a laptop, it was the cheapest 2 in 1 tablet laptop thing. it was ok but did like it, so next month I returned it and got one that was 200£ more expensive, wasn't satisfied either, so next month I did the same.
I did it like 4 times until I ended with a surface 2. which served me though my degree.
I'm curious how long I could have done that
although for practical purposes, it would only work with Chromebooks, as installing and setting up every month is a bit of a pain.
installing and setting up every month is a bit of a pain
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This story has "sovereign citizen"/"insane people facebook" energy.
Oh, you magnificent bastard.
So…anon commits fraud?
Legally, no. Which of course is the most common way to interpret that word.
Did he defraud the dealership? Absolutely! And frankly, good for him. The market for buying new cars in our country is one of the more exploitative systems that our society has managed to create, and that's saying something.
God forbid people have hobbies
where fraud?
Check government
U mean new car price is fraud
Definitely that too. Anon did break the spirit of the rules, which is the social compact, which is not to say that the compact is correct, or should be perpetuated. It was definitely dishonest of them though. Or at least disingenuous.
not sure if gay, but very fake
With you user name my brain translate your upvotes as down vote. I have to do a double take each time when wondering why the down vote. This is a good way to keep training the brain to not believe first takes