Oh dear

Made this months ago ~~for~~ because of @Chickenstalker@lemmy.world

If you try to give me a pizza with lettuce on it hands will be thrown (up in the air in disgust)
- sorry to say it but you're just subjectively wrong
- Lettuce, cucumber and Dijon mustard pizza
- It's not my first choice but I fuck with a cheeseburger pizza:
  The lettuce must be added after cooking but it's a fun crunch
- Sounds like you've never had a taco pizza, and I'm sad for you

I get the whole “cube rule” thing, but a taco is FOLDED and a hot dog bun is CUT.

Mechanically these are very different required preparation steps.

Further, tacos use fried tortillas which are technically cake.

Hot dogs are not tacos. If you fry a cake, fold it, abc add toppings then that is a taco. When you cut into a bun and add toppings, that’s a sub. Hot dogs are subs, not tacos.

Gonna need an explanation on the tortillas. Wikipedia says flatbread.
- Tortillas are pancakes
  The word tortilla is derived from the Spanish word torta, meaning roughly 'cake' or 'pie', plus the diminutive suffix -illa; therefore tortilla can be translated as 'little cake'.
  If flatbread then maybe tacos are pizza.
- Flour tortillas are definitely flatbread.
  Corn tortilla.. I'm not sure. I really just don't know, but I'd still consider a taco to be a sandwich.
- What’s wild is that tortillas are so varied, Mexicans eat very thin yellow corn, Central Americans like white corn and make them thick, and South Americans just go full anarchy and make em extra fat and call them arepas.
  Im partial to the Central American think ones, and if you fill em with cheese and meat you got pupusas
While I appreciate the topological approach, I hold to a linguistic and practical reason for a hot dog, as it is usually eaten, not (typically) being a sandwich:
what does it mean for a thing to be "sandwiched"? It means pressed on two sides, held together by the force of that pressure.
what is the difference between a hot dog and a hero/po-boy/sub? Well, heros and po-boys are held together by the bread. You can turn them on their side, and they should not fall apart, because the primary force holding them together is pressure on either side of the bread. Hot dogs, at least in my limited experience, are defined by their toppings, which are placed atop the frankfurter, and held in place by gravity alone.
As such I give my typology: if the primary force holding your dish together is pressure on two sides from a retaining material? Sandwich. If the primary force holding it together is gravity? That bread is being used as a trencher. As such, most hot dogs, most tacos, bread bowls and other such things are all basically just a version of a bread bowl or bread plate. For this reason, I call them "Trenchers". Pizza is not primarily held together by gravity or by sandwiching forces, and thus is normally neither of these. Pizza's primary force maintaining its integrity is the cheese and other sticky things holding onto any toppings. As such, pizza would be equivalent to toast with spread, cheese, and other toppings, similar to garlic bread. All functionally just "adorned breads".
So, to reiterate, I don't disagree that hot dogs can be sandwiches, but in general practice, I do not believe they qualify, much like most tacos do not qualify.
- pizza is a casserole
so if I fold hotdog in a piece of sandwich bread; is that now a taco?
- If it's Subway bread, which is cake, then yes.
- I can’t argue with that and accept it, yes
tacos use fried tortillas which are technically cake.
Absurd claim
Since when is cake fried?
- Since the south got ahold of it:

https://cuberule.com/

So a soup with noodles is nachos but a soup without noodles is a salad.
What is the definition of noodles in this scenario?
Is a Potato soup a salad and a Gnocchi soup Nachos?
Is it the adding of carbs in general or is it specifically noodles?
What about wild rice soup? Wild rice is a seed. So is it a Salad or a Nacho?
Also, why is a Turducken a salad? Prepared correctly its a sushi or even a calzone.
Also also the cube itself, does it have to be a carb outer layer? Pigs in a blanket are considered a sushi but what of smoked sausages wrapped in bacon?
- Potatoes are a starch, ergo, nachos.
That actually made me angry.
- Unfortunately, it's the only classification system that makes sense in our chaotic world.
superceded by https://saladtheory.github.io/
- There's not a single illustration in that wall of text. 0/10, would not make a sandwich out of it.
wait, my favorite pasta which i'm definitely getting banned if i say the name of it (way better than raviolis, better ratio of inside to outside) is a sandwich according to the poptartists?
also i disagree that their sushi category should be called sushi. it should be donuts because humans are not flesh sushi (that's redundant) they are flesh donuts.
Ah a fellow cube ruler
Ah a fellow cube ruler

What is a pupusa? Is it a sandwich? But it’s tortilla so is it a taco? A quesadilla? A flavoured fat tortilla? Is it a dorito?

it's delicious as fuck that's what it is next caller please
I believe that is a calzone.
It's a pupusa. There's already a word for it, why do we need to give it another?
- So we can fill out the phrase all pupusas are ___ but not all ____ are pupusas
it is a griddle cake with a filling
They're dumplings. Fried dough surrounding a savory filling.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpling

taco is a sandwich too

I'm here for this!

Well what is a sandwich? According to marriage webster:

two or more slices of bread or a split roll having a filling in between

Well damn, that sounds like a hotdog!

Well damn that sounds like a taco!

Counter arguments, a hotdog is a sausage, the bread is a condament. When you buy hotdogs at the store you're taking about the pack, when you're cooking a hotdog, you're taking about the sausage being cooked. A hotdog on the grill is not in the bun. When you're eating a hotdog without a bun, you're still eating a hotdog.

In the other direction, a hotdog with mustard is still called a hotdog meaning the mustard has no say in the state of the hotdog.

Furthermore, we have splitlink sandwiches so a sausage as sandwich still needs the sandwich modifier. When I say "hotdog sandwich" it's bothersome because it conjures the idea of hot dogs between two slices of bread.

So if a hotdog is a hotdog with or without the bread, and a hotdog is a hotdog with or without the mustard, than the bread plays the same role and becomes a condament for the eating of a hotdog that belongs firmly in the category of sausage.

Spare points to back this up is taco, chicken taco, fish taco, street taco, all need the modifier "taco". If I say we're having fish and serve a tuna taco, I've not given you the accurate information. The same goes for wraps, without the "wrap" modifier you get different information. In reverse, we do not ask for a bun to get a hotdog. Following along that line, we have split bun sandwiches which use a bun and are not explicitly hotdogs.

Lastly, with this information you can order the incredibly cursed, split link split bun sandwich with mustard which presents as a cut hotdog with mustard but is in fact an entirely different thing all together.

I will fight you on this.
A hotdog is a specific type of soft sausage inside a bun. If you have just the sausage part you would not call that a hotdog (at least not where I live) but a frankfurter (we have a special word for this type of sausage).
The bread needs to be a certain shape as well. Long round and thin. Either one where it goes in from the top (sliced by length)
like this or pushed in the same way as the longer axis of bread goes like this
.
If you put it inside two slices of bread you made a frankfurter sandwich. So thus it needs to be the right sausage in the right bread to be considered a hotdog.
- i know you just googled but is that an ai hot dog
- First picture has lettuce and tomato. Get the FUCK outta here.
- See, I think this may be a regional issue more than a semantic issue because around these parts that horrifying electric bun spike is the quickest way to not get invited to the next barbique.
I am sorry but I simply cannot accept food categorization advice from someone who classifies bread as a condiment. Please, educate yourself about what a condiment actually is: https://www.hilobrow.com/2010/09/07/de-condimentis-1/

Oh, it's a taco alright!

I will often take two hotdogs, cut them in half longitudinally, and lay those out on two pieces sandwich bread.

Ergo...hotdog sandwich.

Yes my fat ass has done this and added cheese, making it a cheese dog sandwich
- You get two hotdogs in the time it usually takes to eat one. It's called efficiency, my friend. We're visionairies.
- my cool brother taught me the fattest of assery in hotdogdom and i can probably handle one of these a year. they're great tho
  My Cool Brother's Baco-dogs
  Ingredients and Build Order
  bun
  mayo
  crumbled bacon
  narrow all beef hot dogs (sliced lengthwise)
  thick freshly grated cheddar of your preferred sharpness (hard)
  dill relish
  a thin squiggle of ketchup
  a thicker but not overwhelming line of brown deli mustard
  a dusting of celery salt (i can't remember if this was in the original recipe or i added it after experiencing a real chicago dog)
  Method
  you want to fry the bacon, slice the hot dog lengthwise and fry the dog in the bacon grease. fry until you've got some good browning/maillard bullshit on the cut side, but fry both sides. then build the dog in the order above, from outside to in. yes, you have stuff in between the halves of the hotdog. sometimes we toast the bun, usually not because there's enough hogfat in there already. also mayo-ing hot bread ain't the best.

Taco

a Mexican dish consisting of a fried tortilla, typically folded, filled with various mixtures, such as seasoned meat, beans, lettuce, and tomatoes.

Google dictionary

Hot dogs are specific type of sandwich. Tacos are a sub genre of sandwich. 🥪🌭🌮

Tacos have loose meat

Those chicken strip tacos are liars.

look Gonzo i don't know where any farmfowl titty bars are okay. i don't even know if those exist
Sandwiches can have "loose meat" as well. Cheese steak and chopped cheese are two that come to mind.
New way burgers are sandwich and they have loose meat.

Taco is just a sandwich, silly.

Hot dog is like it's own category. You can make all kinds of dogs. Hot dog, veggie dog, smokie dog, chicken dog... If it's got a weiner then it's a dog.

And they all qualify as sandwich
- Only if you eat them in a bun

So tell me, have you heard about the great sandwich war of 1958?

https://time.com/4096427/great-sandwich-war-of-1958/

Of course the americans were offended the europeans had better sandwiches.
- Naturally.
  I mean, this is a common prawn sandwich from us in Sweden:
  You can get them anywhere and they not only taste great, but smell fresh and lovely.
  Though, I can absolutely see a reason why this should not be allowed on a plane; shellfish allergy.
- only because they hadn't tasted good bread before. whenever i'm in non-UK europe I practically live off of sandwiches.