Tesla coast-to-coast FSD crashes after 60 miles
Tesla influencers tried Elon Musk’s coast-to-coast self-driving, crashed before 60 miles
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/632415
They point out in this incident and an incident from the author where, when you’re relying on Autopilot, even when you see something well in advance, you hesitate to react because you expect the car to do it for you.
I’ve always felt the myriad of safety features that protect the driver through corrective input/output are more harm than good. If you rely on your lane assist, adaptive cruise control, and proximity sensors, you aren’t prepared to react when they fail.
You shouldn’t be under the impression that a car will save your life. You should always have the mindset that you are responsible for the vehicle. If someone hit my small car because a sensor failed on theirs, I don’t give a shit if your system failed. You’re the responsible driver.
The safety systems would work perfectly if the cars could communicate, or more robustly if they could be mechanically linked together for the "easy" (highway) portion of the drive. Imagine a lane with nose to tail cars all doing exactly the same thing. At exits (predefined stops) you could get off to change or stay on the same one. Put a little station there with bathrooms and food.
Maybe we could even replace that highway lane with steel tracks and the tires with steel wheels for lower friction.
Damn you just always re-derive the train
I'm a very firm believer in the fact that safety features should be annoying and uncomfortable. Your lane assist needs to beep loudly every time it moves you back, thereby not only keeping you safe, but indirectly conditioning you to keep between the lanes to avoid the annoying beep.
This is the massive gulf between level 3 and 4 systems, and why level 3 is potentially dangerous.
However, after returning it to the Turo owner and having the suspension damage evaluated by Tesla, the repair job was estimated to be roughly $10,000. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a similar situation with this accident.
Hmm. That makes me wonder.
Like, it's hard for me or for Joe Blow to evaluate how effective a car company's self-driving functionality is. Requires expertise, and it's constantly changing. And ideally, I shouldn't be the one to bear cost, if I can't evaluate risk, because then I'm taking on some unknown cost when purchasing the car.
And the car manufacturer isn't in a position to be objective.
But an insurer can do that.
Like, I wonder if it'd be possible to have insurers offer packages that cover cost of accidents that occur while the car is in self-driving mode. That'd make it possible to put a price tag on accidents from self-driving systems.
Yes, if and only if the car manufacturer is the one paying for it. Otherwise the buyer is still taking on an unknown cost when buying the car in the form of an unknown number of insurance premiums.
The odds of this happening are of course zero.
Wouldn''t that be a warranty issue? The car is sold with self-driving, if self-driving caused an accident that is because the product sold didn't behave in the manner expected. This is of course only valid really for vehicles sold as fully self driving and not as an addition.
Though this really only applies in places with strong consumer protection laws lol.
Lol. But indeed nice of the Youtubers to put it to the test and also be honest with the results.
I think they planned for it to fail; maybe not this fast. But there's much more engagement bait potential with everyone loving to hate Tesla.
The irony of people downvoting you is that they probably also love to hate Tesla, or at least what it's become under Elon.
I know I do. We all know Elon didn't make shit, but he still thinks of it as his baby, that's why I love to see these types of fails.
A duo of Tesla shareholder-influencers tried to complete Elon Musk’s coast-to-coast self-driving ride that he claimed Tesla would be able to do in 2017 and they crashed before making it about 60 miles.
From the article. I don't think the Bearded Tesla Guy youtube channel was trying to have their tesla fail so quickly and spectacularly. I think they just wanted to rely fully on self driving and got unlucky with something being in the middle of the road.
You're probably right. That's not enough to avoid downvotes because you potentially don't count yourself among the Tesla haters. If your comment is ambiguous to the point where people aren't sure where you stand, they will assume the worst.
You have to be a certain kind of stupid to allow this to happen. The dude in the driver seat is a paint chip eater for sure
I did not know my body could feel this revolted
The internet and social media have given everyone worldwide voices, and that's both good and bad.
And there is so much pessimism for the future that lots of people are willing to sell their souls to cash out while they're still here.